texascavers Digest 8 Mar 2009 20:50:19 -0000 Issue 721

2009-03-08 Thread texascavers-digest-help

texascavers Digest 8 Mar 2009 20:50:19 - Issue 721

Topics (messages 10310 through 10320):

disappearing bats
10310 by: Mixon Bill

Re: heaters for bats
10311 by: Diana Tomchick
10312 by: Jim Kennedy
10313 by: Diana Tomchick
10314 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
10315 by: wa5pok.peoplepc.com

Re: Texas bats
10316 by: Jim Kennedy
10317 by: wa5pok.peoplepc.com

Scientist study rare Alabama cave fish :
10318 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com

Re: Follow-up to 'cave house for sale'
10319 by: Mike Flannigan

Death in our comunity
10320 by: bob cowell

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For other species, even the common cave myotis,
entire cave populations could be disappearing and we wouldn't even  
know.


I agree, but that's not a very good statement about the environmental  
importance of bats

--Mixon
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benefactor the world has yet known. - Sir Richard Burton

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Actually, there has been quite a bit of recent research about the  
white fungus found on bats, and it's been published. Please see the  
following article published in Science:


Originally published in Science Express on 30 October 2008
Science 9 January 2009:
Vol. 323. no. 5911, p. 227
DOI: 10.1126/science.1163874

Bat White-Nose Syndrome: An Emerging Fungal Pathogen?

David S. Blehert,1* Alan C. Hicks,2 Melissa Behr,3 Carol U. Meteyer,1 Brenda M. Berlowski-Zier,1Elizabeth L. Buckles,4  
Jeremy T. H. Coleman,5 Scott R. Darling,6 Andrea Gargas,7 Robyn Niver, 
5Joseph C. Okoniewski,2 Robert J. Rudd,3 Ward B. Stone2


White-nose syndrome (WNS) is a condition associated with an  
unprecedented bat mortality event in the northeastern United States.  
Since the winter of 2006*2007, bat declines exceeding 75% have been  
observed at surveyed hibernacula. Affected bats often present with  
visually striking white fungal growth on their muzzles, ears, and/or  
wing membranes. Direct microscopy and culture analyses demonstrated  
that the skin of WNS-affected bats is colonized by a psychro-philic  
fungus that is phylogeneticallyrelated to Geomyces spp. but with a  
conidial morphology distinct from characterized members of this genus.  
This report characterizes the cutaneous fungal infection associated  
with WNS.


1 National Wildlife Health Center, U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), 6006  
Schroeder Road, Madison, WI 53711, USA.
2 New York Department of Environmental Conservation, 625 Broadway,  
Albany, NY 12233, USA.
3 New York Department of Health, Post Office Box 22002, Albany, NY  
12201, USA.

4 Cornell University, VRT T6008, Ithaca, NY 14853, USA.
5 U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, 3817 Luker Road, Cortland, NY 13045,  
USA.
6 Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department, 271 North Main Street,  
Rutland, VT 05701, USA.

7 Symbiology Limited Liability Corporation, Middleton, WI 53562, USA.

 Present address: Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, 445  
Easterday Lane, Madison, WI 53706, USA.


* To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: dbleh...@usgs.gov


Anyone who wishes a copy of this article as a PDF, write to me  
personally and I will forward it to you. There are some cool photos of  
what the fungus is doing to the poor little critters.


Diana


On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote:


Absolutely not  Conservation money is in extremely short supply
right now, in this uncertain economy.  Bat conservation is an even  
lower
funding priority than almost everything else I can think of.  One of  
the
biggest hurdles in figuring out what is killing off 90% of all the  
bats
in the East (and soon, likely, the rest of the country), is the LACK  
of
money for necessary research.  In fact, some of the very questions  
being
asked (such as Are the bats going in to hibernation with adequate  
body
weight, or are they starving even before entering hibernation? and  
Is

this fungus actually a new species, or is it widespread and just never
identified until now?) are pretty simple baseline types of  
information
that we should have been collecting for years, if only we had  
unlimited
budgets to do the research to answer those kinds of questions.  But  
the
reality is that we do not, and will not in the foreseeable future.   
Even

in Texas I can't tell you how many bats of 

[Texascavers] Death in our comunity

2009-03-08 Thread bob cowell
On Friday Margaret Bamberger died in her sleep. Margart wife of J David 
Bamberger (Selah Ranch, home of the first man made cave designed to research 
bats.) Margaret underwent a long boute of cancer, never ending the fight. She 
had a treatment and came home to sleep never awakening. Margaret will be buried 
in a green funeral on the ranch with the imediate family in attendence. Please 
no flowers anyone may send donations to the ranch care of the Margaret 
Bamberger Educational Fund.This hyper link is Margarets have a look leave your 
comments. She was a great lady and a good friend http://brp-journal.blogspot.com

[Texascavers] Death in our comunity

2009-03-08 Thread bob cowell
On Friday Margaret Bamberger died in her sleep. Margart wife of J David 
Bamberger (Selah Ranch, home of the first man made cave designed to research 
bats.) Margaret underwent a long boute of cancer, never ending the fight. She 
had a treatment and came home to sleep never awakening. Margaret will be buried 
in a green funeral on the ranch with the imediate family in attendence. Please 
no flowers anyone may send donations to the ranch care of the Margaret 
Bamberger Educational Fund.This hyper link is Margarets have a look leave your 
comments. She was a great lady and a good friend http://brp-journal.blogspot.com

[Texascavers] March PBSS meeting notice

2009-03-08 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
Greetings all cavers, cave people and just  folks who are regular except for 
an inexpicable desire to learn about or go caving



The 302nd meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society will be on 
Tuesday March 10th, 7:00 PM in the back room at Murray's Deli which is 
located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
Topics of discussion: More ICS trip leader trainings for Deep Cave, DUES! 
Next 5M dig date maybe April 18th, DUES! Other cave stuff?


For further information contact an officer: Jacqui Thomas 
jlrbi...@sonoratx.net , Sharon Long sharon_long2006 at yahoo.com ,  or Bill 
Bentley caver at caver.net

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html

The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on 
January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated 
Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the 
Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the 
cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.


National Speleological Society web page:
http://www.caves.org/

Texas Speleological Association web page:
http://www.cavetexas.org

Southwestern Region of the NSS web page:
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/


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Re: [NMCAVER] 100 uses of Seamgrip

2009-03-08 Thread Mike_Bilbo
It's a good thing no one told you about WD 40.  Trust me, you don't wanna
know.



   
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yeah, what would we do if men stopped fixing things?

The recent male caver visitor I had from out east looked at me like I was
crazy when I mentioned JB Weld.   now I know its just a conspiracy and he
wasn't dumb.

argh, really I'll get back to packing and start driving soon Jon and Janae
:)

Jen










 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:46:59 +
 From: matari...@frontiernet.net
 To: jonbroh...@yahoo.com
 CC: caveandletc...@yahoo.com; jhunder...@bayfield.k12.co.us;
c...@fargate.net; caverf...@yahoo.com; nmca...@caver.net;
pxmo...@hotmail.com; rand...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] 100 uses of Seamgrip

 Jon,

 I am very concerned about you sharing secret male secret secrets with
non-males. I believe we may have to call a tribunal.

 Ladies--please ignore Jon's demented blatherings about duct tape and
bailing wire. These products are have no use outside of taping ducts or
bailing hay. And there is no such thing as JB Weld, if he ever mentions
that, either. It's a myth. These are all the ravings of a deranged mind.
Just remember that men are simply better at fixing things, that's all.

 Jon, we'll deal with you later.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jon Broholm jonbroh...@yahoo.com
 To: nmca...@caver.net, Richard Bohman rbohm...@cox.net, Ryan
Gosciejew caveandletc...@yahoo.com, paul mozal pxmo...@hotmail.com,
Randy Macan rand...@gmail.com, Carrie Finn caverf...@yahoo.com,
Cordell Brown c...@fargate.net, Janae Hunderman
jhunder...@bayfield.k12.co.us, Scott Nicolay
matari...@frontiernet.net
 Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 9:36:08 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
 Subject: 100 uses of Seamgrip



 100 uses of Seamgrip, the old caver standby.  If it does all the things
that this says, it should be in the same class as duct tape and bailing
wire.

 http://mcnett.baron-co.com/images/editor/100Uses.pdf

 - Jon Broholm


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