[NMCAVER] Fw: USFS Closes Region 8 Caves and Mines
In case anyone missed the reference to USFS caves closed in 33 states now in Marks previous email... - Here's the Press Release now closing caves and mines on USFS land in 13 more states and Puerto Rico: http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/news/documents/2009/NR%2006-09_Forest%20Service%20Closes%20Caves%20and%20Mines%20to%20Protect%20Bats_%20NewsRelease.pdf States included are KY, VA, NC, SC, TN, AL, GA, FL, MS, LA, AR, OK, and TX, plus Puerto Rico. ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] RE: The Second Quarter 2009 TEXAS CAVER is now online!
This is certainly not a criticism as I found this issue most interesting and the quality of the writing and photography on the Mexico trips was excellent. It almost seems that Texas cavers are doing more of it in Mexico than in Texas. This is understandable based on the size and quality of the caves in Mexico. It was a nostalgic sadness for me to read of the passing of Bart Crisman. While I only knew of him in the mid 50's, The Crisman Brothers were well known adventurous cavers in early Texas caving circles. I echo Carl's words, we are diminished. George-Paul, why not just Tex-Mex Caver?:) Fritz -Original Message- From: George-Paul Richmann [mailto:gprichm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:16 PM To: Minton, Mark Cc: mark.al...@l-3com.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: The Second Quarter 2009 TEXAS CAVER is now online! Once everyone is on the website; we can re-release the hard copy version and call it TEXAS CAVER Classic :-) On - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] FW: Short notice, interesting project
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:49:20 -0700 From: b...@zaraenvironmental.com Subject: Short notice, interesting project To: mudmal...@hotmail.com Wes- This has just come across my plate. I've corresponded with Cameron for a few years, and the cave part of her project finally came together. I've put a blurb below. If it strikes your fancy or anyone you know comes to mind (gotta have a sketcher!!), great, if not, could you put it on Cave Tex? Bev _ Short notice, interesting project: Cameron McNeil is looking for 2 experienced surveyors to survey and produce a map of a cave in the Copan area of Honduras this June. Well, that’s coming right up! She’s already down there, and will be through June 26. The survey could probably be completed in a week, plus travel time could be 1 ½ weeks or so. Travel, room and board will likely be covered, a distinct bonus. The cavers will be responsible for surveying the cave and producing a useful map in a timely fashion (ie, within a couple of weeks of getting home, if not while in Honduras). Its an archeology project, so of course the location and contents of the cave require discretion. Copan is a fairly public site, where archeologists are mixed right in with the town and tourists, so its not like a private caver camp – ie, don’t act like a yahoo, respect local residents, etc. If you’ve got the mapping skills and the time, this could be a really cool experience. Copan is just south of the border with Guatemala, and it’s a super cool archeology site, by far the best Honduras has to offer. Contact her at: camero...@yahoo.com _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009
Re: [Texascavers] FW: Short notice, interesting project
I'm not a cave surveyor, but I've been to Copan, and it's a beautiful place! I'll be down in Honduras from June 22-July 5, so I know it's a great time of year to go! 2009/5/22 wesley s mudmal...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:49:20 -0700 From: b...@zaraenvironmental.com Subject: Short notice, interesting project To: mudmal...@hotmail.com Wes- This has just come across my plate. I've corresponded with Cameron for a few years, and the cave part of her project finally came together. I've put a blurb below. If it strikes your fancy or anyone you know comes to mind (gotta have a sketcher!!), great, if not, could you put it on Cave Tex? Bev _ Short notice, interesting project: Cameron McNeil is looking for 2 experienced surveyors to survey and produce a map of a cave in the Copan area of Honduras this June. Well, that's coming right up! She's already down there, and will be through June 26. The survey could probably be completed in a week, plus travel time could be 1 1/2 weeks or so. Travel, room and board will likely be covered, a distinct bonus. The cavers will be responsible for surveying the cave and producing a useful map in a timely fashion (ie, within a couple of weeks of getting home, if not while in Honduras). Its an archeology project, so of course the location and contents of the cave require discretion. Copan is a fairly public site, where archeologists are mixed right in with the town and tourists, so its not like a private caver camp - ie, don't act like a yahoo, respect local residents, etc. If you've got the mapping skills and the time, this could be a really cool experience. Copan is just south of the border with Guatemala, and it's a super cool archeology site, by far the best Honduras has to offer. Contact her at: camero...@yahoo.com -- Hotmail(R) goes with you. Get it on your BlackBerry or iPhone.http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
[NMCAVER] SWR camping this weekend
All, Mike Bilbo asked that the following message be sent out: It has been raining (light drizzle) at the Fort Stanton area so fire restrictions have been lifted. Camping will be allowed at the cave campground and camp fires are allowed. There is no trail crew at the BLM bunkhouse so anyone who wishes to sleep in the bunkhouse is welcome to do so this weekend - this means you can get out of the rain if you are not equipped for wet camping. Note: the Lincoln State Monument has a new Feather Cave exhibit that would really be of interest to cavers. Among planned tasks this weekend is work on stabilizing Babb's Burrow, surface reconnaissance looking for possible water sources for Snowy River, and other tasks that BLM would like to see accomplished if enough people show up. ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net
[Texascavers] Dog Emergency OT! OT! OT!
Felicia Vreeland is moving out of her house and badly needs someplace to leave 2 or 3 dogs for a couple of weeks so they don't wind up in the pound. Her email's not working but if you have the space and the inclination please give her a call. It would help set her mind at ease. 330-272-5671 Many thanks, --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[ot_caving] Dog Emergency OT! OT! OT!
Felicia Vreeland is moving out of her house and badly needs someplace to leave 2 or 3 dogs for a couple of weeks so they don't wind up in the pound. Her email's not working but if you have the space and the inclination please give her a call. It would help set her mind at ease. 330-272-5671 Many thanks, --Ediger - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 22 May 2009 23:10:03 -0000 Issue 762
texascavers Digest 22 May 2009 23:10:03 - Issue 762 Topics (messages 10740 through 10758): Re: Nat Geo article 10740 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com 10744 by: Mixon Bill 10745 by: Geary Schindel 10746 by: Diana Tomchick 10748 by: Geary Schindel [texascavers] caving Libya 10741 by: Simon Newton 10749 by: Mixon Bill Re: 15th ICS - field trip news and only 2 months! 10742 by: Nico Escamilla large cave passage 10743 by: Mixon Bill Re: The Second Quarter 2009 TEXAS CAVER is now online! 10747 by: Minton, Mark 10752 by: George-Paul Richmann 10755 by: Fritz Holt Space Bat 10750 by: Minton, Mark 10751 by: Fritz Holt Speleofest 10753 by: David More WNS Support 10754 by: Minton, Mark Re: Short notice, interesting project 10756 by: wesley s 10757 by: Heather Tucek Dog Emergency OT! OT! OT! 10758 by: Gill Ediger Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Here, here! Mark A. From: dirt...@comcast.net [mailto:dirt...@comcast.net] Sent: Wed 5/20/2009 12:12 PM To: Mixon Bill; Cave Texas; TAG Net Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Nat Geo article We need young cavers to join us in our community. DirtDoc He has explored more than 50 miles of virgin passage, most of it on his hands and knees. Oh, please. If that author ever gets near a keyboard again, somebody spare us by breaking his fingers. Why is National Geographic Magazine written for children? And why do they always hire Steven Alvarez to take photos for their cave articles? His photos are good, but seldom exceptional by NSS salon standards, and the world is awash with similar photos that people would no doubt be honored to let NGS publish free. I'll buy the issue, of course, when it hits the stands. Sigh. -- Mixon - He who renders warfare fatal to all engaged in it will be the greatest benefactor the world has yet known. - Sir Richard Burton -- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- It wasn't the 50 miles of virgin cave for Baggy I was questioning, but the mostly on his hands and knees, as an example of the overly vivid and exaggerated writing in that article. Yes, it will be nice if that article gains us some good new cavers, but it would be nice if they were older than the eighth grade. -- Mixon - He who renders warfare fatal to all engaged in it will be the greatest benefactor the world has yet known. - Sir Richard Burton -- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Well, I couldn't agree with you more on the writing style but then again, that is consistent with NG. All NG articles have a hook, so to speak and are generally not very deep in content. However, I'm not quite sure I would lay all the blame on the writer, I understand that NG has an editor for every point within the Gregg Reference Manual for writing and well as their own style manual. I know one person who wrote a 10 page article and he said that when it was all done, he had over 1,000 emails which amounted to almost 10 emails per assistant editor. He might have been exaggerating but I thought he said they had one for capitalization, one for comas, one for periods, one for semicolons, one for photo captions, fact checkers, etc. Enough to drive you crazy. Geary -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:04 PM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Nat Geo article It wasn't the 50 miles of virgin cave for Baggy I was questioning, but the mostly on his hands and knees, as an example of the overly vivid and exaggerated writing in that article. Yes, it will be nice if that article gains us some good new cavers, but it would be nice if they
[Texascavers] Terminal Siphons
I'm looking for a tape of previous performances. Please contact -WaV
