[Texascavers] Friesenhahn Cave - part 2

[David]

Here is the link to the story:

  http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/features/local_story_183103218.html

Which says:

Dr. Laurence Meissner, Biology professor at Concordia University is giving
a presentation entitled:

"Pleistocene Ecology and The Friesenhahn Cave"

at:

Audience:   The Hays County Master Naturalists club
Time:  6:30 to 8:30 p.m.
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date:  July 30
Place:Episcopal Church of the Holy Spirit
 301 Hays County Acres Rd.
 Dripping Springs, TX

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[Texascavers] RE: J2 expedition results

[Minton, Mark]

 Bill Mixon said:


From Mark Minton, who has massaged the data from the recent J2 expediton to 
Huautla


 Slight correction.  J2 is not in Huautla, but across the river to the 
south in the Cheve area.  :-)

Mark Minton

RE: [Texascavers] forwarding message about ICS signs

[George Veni]

David,

Thank you for posting Lisa's message. The stories of cavers coming together
in many ways to make the ICS a fantastic reality are legion. Sadly, most
will never be told but at least their results will be appreciated starting
two weeks from tomorrow.

George 



-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:38 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] forwarding message about ICS signs

I am forwarding this message for Lisa Goggin, who is not on Cavetex:


Last week, 10 cavers from around Houston, members of the Greater
Houston Grotto ( GHG ), met to assemble signs for ICS.

These are the signs that go around the campus and along the roadways to
direct people to the events.

Tommy Joe, provided a large facility with all the tools and more to
accomplish
this.    This would have been very difficult to do without Tommy's
assistance,
and hospitality.

In addition to all the advanced work of getting the materials delivered
to the shop, over 60 man-hours of work was put in to make the first set of
signs.

I would like to thank these cavers who busted their tails in 100 degree
weather,
to volunteer.

These are the volunteers:

Kevin McGowan
Sid Formanek
Julia Germany
Don Formanek
David Locklear
Rocky Reidel
Tommy Joe ( and 2 non-caving friends ? )
Mary Remar
Lyndon Tiu
Ashley ?

[ I apologize if I left someoneoff ]


I am extremely grateful for the help and really am honored to
meet these amazing volunteers!

I would also like to add that the many of the signs had to be spray-coated
with
a sealant and several of these volunteers spent a few hours in the
non-air-conditioned paint booth spraying the signs.    ( In case it rains )

Although, most of the signs are nearly finished, it may take 2 more meetings
to
get the volunteers to finish all the signs and get them stored somewhere,
before
the are delivered to Kerrville on or about the 17th.   We are hoping to have
the
signs ready to ship in a few days.


David Locklear would like to add that:

Lisa Goggin put in many hours of work in advance collecting a truckbed
full of plastic sign material to make the signs, a trip to the hardware
store,
delivering the signs to the shop which was an hour drive to and from her
house, and also ramrodding the volunteers to get together, and
instructing them on how to make the signs, and furnishing the pizza
and beverages and ice.     This was all more work than you can imagine
for one person, who also has other duties
at ICS like getting ready for the Terminal Siphons concert.


The signs look pretty good, and should resist any rain.They are yellow,
with
UIS, ICS and NSS logos on them.So look for those signs when you are
needing
directions around the campus.

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] J2 expedition results

[Mixon Bill]

From Mark Minton, who has massaged the data from the recent J2  
expediton to Huautla and run it through  Walls: J2 is officially 1222  
m deep and 11017 m long.  Last Bash is 511 m deep and 795 m long.  
(Last Bash is a mostly new cave that has potential to be an alternate  
route to the deeper parts of J2 Cave.) -- Mixon

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[Texascavers] Re: Digital Underground Survey Instrument

[Brian Vauter]

Does anyone have any experience/comments/criticisms for this device? It's a
"Digital Underground Survey Instrument"
http://www.digitalsurveyinstruments.com/node/16

texascavers Digest 3 Jul 2009 15:38:09 -0000 Issue 790

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texascavers Digest 3 Jul 2009 15:38:09 - Issue 790

Topics (messages 11155 through 11168):

Bats' Fountain of Youth
11155 by: Minton, Mark
11159 by: Nico Escamilla
11167 by: Don Cooper

more good news
11156 by: David
11157 by: Nico Escamilla

Diesel fuel -- OT
11158 by: Linda Palit
11160 by: Nico Escamilla
11161 by: vivbone.att.net
11162 by: Nico Escamilla
11163 by: Charles Goldsmith
11165 by: CaverArch

echolocation
11164 by: Johnson, Russ (ATX)

Friesenhahn Cave
11166 by: David

forwarding message about ICS signs
11168 by: David

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  Bats may hold the key to longer life.  
 

Mark Minton
 
Do bats hold the "Fountain the Youth"?
 
July 1, 2009Scientists from Texas are batty over a new discovery which could lead to the single most important medical breakthrough in human history—significantly longer lifespans. The discovery, featured on the cover of the July 2009 print issue of The FASEB Journal shows that proper protein folding over time in long-lived bats explains why they live significantly longer than other mammals of comparable size, such as mice."Ultimately we are trying to discover what underlying mechanisms allow for some animal species to live a very long time with the hope that we might be able to develop therapies that allow people to age more slowly," said Asish Chaudhuri, Professor of Biochemistry, VA Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas and the senior researcher involved in the work. Asish and colleagues made their discovery by extracting proteins from the livers of two long-lived bat species (Tadarida brasiliensis and Myotis velifer) and young adult mice and exposed them to chemicals known to cause protein misfolding. After examining the proteins, the scientists found that the bat proteins exhibited less damage than those of the mice, indicating that bats have a mechanism for maintaining proper structure under extreme stress."Maybe Juan Ponce De León wasn't too far off the mark when he searched Florida for the Fountain of Youth," said Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal. "As it turns out, one of these bat species lives out its long life in Florida. Since bats are rodents with wings, this chemical clue as to why bats beat out mice in the aging game should point scientists to the source of this elusive fountain."Study Abstract SOURCE: Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology
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. Since bats are rodents with wings, <-Are they, really?
>

Nico
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Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal.(:) "As it
turns out, one of these bat species lives out its long life in
Florida.*Since bats are rodents with wings
*,...

I am not confident this person really knows anything about bats.
-WaV

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Minton, Mark  wrote:

>Bats may hold the key to longer life.  <
> http://www.rdmag.com/ShowPR~PUBCODE~014~ACCT~140101~ISSUE~0907~RELTYPE~LST~PRODCODE~~PRODLETT~K.html
> >
>
>
>
> Mark Minton
>
>
>
> *Do bats hold the "Fountain the Youth"?*
>
>
>
> July 1, 2009
>
> Scientists from Texas are batty over a new discovery which could lead to
> the single most important medical breakthrough in human
> history—significantly longer lifespans. The discovery, featured on the cover
> of the July 2009 print issue of The FASEB Journal shows that proper protein
> folding over time in long-lived bats explains why they live significantly
> longer than other mammals of comparable size, such as mice.
>
> "Ultimately we are trying to discover what underlying mechanisms allow for
> some animal species to live a very long time with the hope that we might be
> able to develop therapies that allow people to age more slowly," said Asish
> Chaudhuri, Professor of Biochemistry, VA Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas
> and the senior researcher involved in the work.
>
> Asish and colleagues made their discovery by extracting proteins from the
> livers of two long-lived bat species (Tadarida brasiliensis and Myotis
> velifer) and young adult mice and exposed them to chemicals known to cause
> protein misfolding. After examining the proteins, the scientists found that
> the bat proteins exhibited less damage than those of the mice, indicating
> that bats have a mechanism for maintaining proper structure under extreme
> stress.
>
> "Maybe Juan Ponce De León wasn't too far off the mark when he searched
> Florida for the Fountain of Youth," said Gerald We

[Texascavers] forwarding message about ICS signs

[David]

I am forwarding this message for Lisa Goggin, who is not on Cavetex:


Last week, 10 cavers from around Houston, members of the Greater
Houston Grotto ( GHG ), met to assemble signs for ICS.

These are the signs that go around the campus and along the roadways to
direct people to the events.

Tommy Joe, provided a large facility with all the tools and more to accomplish
this.    This would have been very difficult to do without Tommy's assistance,
and hospitality.

In addition to all the advanced work of getting the materials delivered
to the shop, over 60 man-hours of work was put in to make the first set of
signs.

I would like to thank these cavers who busted their tails in 100 degree weather,
to volunteer.

These are the volunteers:

Kevin McGowan
Sid Formanek
Julia Germany
Don Formanek
David Locklear
Rocky Reidel
Tommy Joe ( and 2 non-caving friends ? )
Mary Remar
Lyndon Tiu
Ashley ?

[ I apologize if I left someoneoff ]


I am extremely grateful for the help and really am honored to
meet these amazing volunteers!

I would also like to add that the many of the signs had to be spray-coated with
a sealant and several of these volunteers spent a few hours in the
non-air-conditioned paint booth spraying the signs.    ( In case it rains )

Although, most of the signs are nearly finished, it may take 2 more meetings to
get the volunteers to finish all the signs and get them stored somewhere, before
the are delivered to Kerrville on or about the 17th.   We are hoping to have the
signs ready to ship in a few days.


David Locklear would like to add that:

Lisa Goggin put in many hours of work in advance collecting a truckbed
full of plastic sign material to make the signs, a trip to the hardware store,
delivering the signs to the shop which was an hour drive to and from her
house, and also ramrodding the volunteers to get together, and
instructing them on how to make the signs, and furnishing the pizza
and beverages and ice.     This was all more work than you can imagine
for one person, who also has other duties
at ICS like getting ready for the Terminal Siphons concert.


The signs look pretty good, and should resist any rain.They are yellow, with
UIS, ICS and NSS logos on them.So look for those signs when you are needing
directions around the campus.

David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] Bats' Fountain of Youth

[Don Cooper]

Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal.(:) "As it
turns out, one of these bat species lives out its long life in
Florida.*Since bats are rodents with wings
*,...

I am not confident this person really knows anything about bats.
-WaV

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Minton, Mark  wrote:

>Bats may hold the key to longer life.  <
> http://www.rdmag.com/ShowPR~PUBCODE~014~ACCT~140101~ISSUE~0907~RELTYPE~LST~PRODCODE~~PRODLETT~K.html
> >
>
>
>
> Mark Minton
>
>
>
> *Do bats hold the "Fountain the Youth"?*
>
>
>
> July 1, 2009
>
> Scientists from Texas are batty over a new discovery which could lead to
> the single most important medical breakthrough in human
> history—significantly longer lifespans. The discovery, featured on the cover
> of the July 2009 print issue of The FASEB Journal shows that proper protein
> folding over time in long-lived bats explains why they live significantly
> longer than other mammals of comparable size, such as mice.
>
> "Ultimately we are trying to discover what underlying mechanisms allow for
> some animal species to live a very long time with the hope that we might be
> able to develop therapies that allow people to age more slowly," said Asish
> Chaudhuri, Professor of Biochemistry, VA Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas
> and the senior researcher involved in the work.
>
> Asish and colleagues made their discovery by extracting proteins from the
> livers of two long-lived bat species (Tadarida brasiliensis and Myotis
> velifer) and young adult mice and exposed them to chemicals known to cause
> protein misfolding. After examining the proteins, the scientists found that
> the bat proteins exhibited less damage than those of the mice, indicating
> that bats have a mechanism for maintaining proper structure under extreme
> stress.
>
> "Maybe Juan Ponce De León wasn't too far off the mark when he searched
> Florida for the Fountain of Youth," said Gerald Weissmann, M.D.,
> Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal. "As it turns out, one of these bat
> species lives out its long life in Florida. Since bats are rodents with
> wings, this chemical clue as to why bats beat out mice in the aging game
> should point scientists to the source of this elusive fountain."
>
> Study Abstract 
>
> SOURCE: Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology
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