[Texascavers] caves near the planet Saturn

2009-07-04 Thread David
This is sort of cave related:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/space/5625932/Salt-water-caverns-may-be-beneath-surface-of-Saturn-moon.html


Their theory is that gigantic caves are on Enceladus and that these
caves are filled with salt water, and that aquatic troglobitic
microbes
could exist in such an environment.

Note they propose a description of these caves as:

  "misty ice caverns floored with pools and channels of salty water."

I guess you would need alpine caving techniques in a cave like that ??

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[Texascavers] cavers in comic books

2009-07-04 Thread David
Here is something that might appeal to cavers:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2009/06/29/image-comics-announces-underground/

http://www.comicbook.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/underground-1.jpg

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[Texascavers] please delete previous post

2009-07-04 Thread David
Please delete my previous post from your inbox.

It did not come out the way I intended.

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Cavetex deletions ?

2009-07-04 Thread David
Anyway you can delete my post about volunteering
to drive a van ?


Re: [Texascavers] ICS Driver Volunteers II

2009-07-04 Thread Don Cooper
Yeah - how to do a killfile on gmail

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 7:39 PM, David  wrote:

> I am just curious about what liability the volunteer faces when
> volunteering
> only to drive a rental vehicle from point A to B ?
>
> Are they legally responsible for the van in any way?
>
> What if they wreck?What if they are at fault ?
>
> What if another driver wrecks ?
>
> What if the van gets stolen ?
>
> What if the van gets pulled over by the police and one of the passengers
> says something to arise suspicion leading to the van being impounded ?
>
> Did I leave out anything ?
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Re: [Texascavers] ICS Driver Volunteers II

2009-07-04 Thread David
I am just curious about what liability the volunteer faces when volunteering
only to drive a rental vehicle from point A to B ?

Are they legally responsible for the van in any way?

What if they wreck?What if they are at fault ?

What if another driver wrecks ?

What if the van gets stolen ?

What if the van gets pulled over by the police and one of the passengers
says something to arise suspicion leading to the van being impounded ?

Did I leave out anything ?

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS Driver Volunteers II

2009-07-04 Thread Kim Maloy

I'll step up. Let me know when and where and I'll be there.

Kim

On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Don Arburn wrote:

Who will step up and be an afternoon driver for the Hotel Shuttle  
for the week?


Who will step up and help return vans on the 26th and 27th?

Who will help drive a van, multiple times, to the Photo Salon and  
the banquets on Thursday, Friday and Saturday Evenings?


Please?

Thanks!



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Transportation Coordinator
2009 15th Annual
International Congress of Speleology
donarb...@mac.com
NSS# 56822RL
Mobile#361-362-3677


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[Texascavers] ICS Driver Volunteers II

2009-07-04 Thread Don Arburn
Who will step up and be an afternoon driver for the Hotel Shuttle for  
the week?


Who will step up and help return vans on the 26th and 27th?

Who will help drive a van, multiple times, to the Photo Salon and the  
banquets on Thursday, Friday and Saturday Evenings?


Please?

Thanks!



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Don Arburn
Transportation Coordinator
2009 15th Annual
International Congress of Speleology
donarb...@mac.com
NSS# 56822RL
Mobile#361-362-3677


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[Texascavers] Fwd: 15th ICS – Important caving trip news!

2009-07-04 Thread Mixon Bill

Forwarded by Mixon:

Begin forwarded message:

Dear Friends,

In two weeks, many of you will be arriving at Schreiner University in  
Kerrville, Texas, to register for the 15th International Congress of  
Speleology (ICS), which will begin on Sunday, 19 July 2009. Some of  
you will come looking for what caving trips are available. Last week I  
announced caving trip information on the ICS website at http://www.ics2009.us/cavetrips.html 
 . This message provides some additional information and an update.


Some of you have asked if open caving will be possible during the ICS,  
meaning that the ICS announced a cave is available and people can plan  
their own trips. Unfortunately, the answer is “no.” Such caving is  
incredibly difficult to arrange in Texas and become more difficult  
every year. During the 1994 NSS Convention in Brackettville, we had no  
such trips that I recall. Trips were led by Texas cavers, and relied  
on an abundance of private vehicles to get everyone to the caves. This  
year, when many people will arrive from outside of the USA and won’t  
have private vehicles, it is necessary that the ICS provide  
transportation. If you want to caving, you are welcome to join the ICS- 
led trips. If you want to go on a non-ICS trip, you will need to find  
a Texas caver who can take you, but most will be busy leading ICS  
trips and organizing other parts of the ICS.


On happier news, the ICS financial team has continued to work on the  
budget. We were not happy with the price of the trips, which were  
listed as $35/person/trip (they are still listed that way; we have not  
yet updated the website). However, because we know caving trips are  
very important, the team has worked very hard and finally found a way  
to lower the price to $15/person/trip. This covers the cost of the  
vehicles, fuel, insurance, White Nose Syndrome decontamination  
supplies, and other small direct costs. The team found other ways to  
pay for the indirect costs that made the earlier price higher.


The ICS is nearly upon us and our Organizing Committee has done a lot  
of work to prepare, but we are still working as hard as we can to  
offer you a wonderful experience in Texas.


See you very soon,

George

George Veni, Ph.D.
Chairman, 15th International Congress of Speleology
Adjunct Secretary, International Union of Speleology
Executive Director, U.S. National Cave and Karst Research Institute

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