[Texascavers] Lost and Found from CBSP
Two Sleeping bags, a towel, some knee pads, and a pillow. Thanks for those that came out, now claim your stuff. Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale
[Texascavers] basic cave geology info
Here is a web-site about cave geology in the Edwards Aquifer. http://www.esi.utexas.edu/outreach/caves/ This was done by the University of Austin, thru the Environmental Science Institute and appears to be aimed at junior-high level science students. The article reads like a 7 page brochure or pamphlet. It doesn't really mention the term speleology, but does talk about things like, "karstified limestone." If you click under the News section, there a link to caving at U.T., and a link for ICS. It does mention 4 names of people that happen to be cavers: Ernest Lundelius, Brian Vauter, George Veni and a bibliographical reference to, Art Palmer. The color diagram used to show how limestone is eroded to form caves, looks like the Tongass National Forest, and nothing like the Edwards Aquifer. Here are some of the people that put the site together: http://www.esi.utexas.edu/people/dept.html If you look at their qualifications and the quality of this web-site, I would have to give the ESI a grade of D+.Or is that too harsh? I think if a young person found this site and was truly interested in finding out more about cave science, that by clicking on the links such as the Karst Portal, they would eventually find the info they are looking for. The site could use some better photos, or links to better photos. And maybe some kind of interesting cave map with a good profile. That would get the grade up to B-. Some good photos of teens doing cave science in a cave would be better. David Locklear P.S.I am trying to post only cave related things, and to do my babbling on Facebook. I have typed several post and deleted them without posting. Feel free to send me a FFR. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] -- OT
I would suspect that Charles' OffTopic list offers superior security & scam prevention than Facebook. Combine your use of Facebook and something like Flash or even a browser that hasn't been updated in the past month or so you are opening doors for scammers to stick their foot into... - Pete On Jan 10, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Ron Miller wrote: OT subjects become like the spouse or person that likes to continually talk about anything. Kind of an oral memory dump. Important stuff looses focus in all the background noise. I suspect that is why Facebook was developed. Ron From: George Veni To: texas cavers tc Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 4:03:52 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT I’m glad to see Allan and Matt’s messages. A couple of years ago there was an online discussion about how TexasCavers.com was set up to discuss caving, not non-caving subjects. Charles graciously set up a separate list for cavers who want to discuss non-caving topics, but recently messages with “OT” in the subject line have been creeping in, as if that warning makes their messages legitimate for the list. About a year ago, one frequent OT poster wrote me that he doesn’t like to post to the new list because few people are signed up for it. Maybe more people have signed up since then, but if not it suggests that most subscribers to TexasCaver.com want to read and discuss caving, not non-caving topics. George From: Matt Turner [mailto:kat...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:38 PM To: Allan Cobb; texas cavers tc Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT while Allan can tell you that I love to debate this topic. I tend to agree with him. I'd say come out to Colorado Bend State Park this weekend and debate it in person. Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale From: Allan Cobb To: texas cavers tc Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:49:51 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT Texascavers mailing list is probably not the best forum to try to initiate a debate about climate change. Allan
Re: [Texascavers] -- OT
OT subjects become like the spouse or person that likes to continually talk about anything. Kind of an oral memory dump. Important stuff looses focus in all the background noise. I suspect that is why Facebook was developed. Ron From: George Veni To: texas cavers tc Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 4:03:52 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT I’m glad to see Allan and Matt’s messages. A couple of years ago there was an online discussion about how TexasCavers.com was set up to discuss caving, not non-caving subjects. Charles graciously set up a separate list for cavers who want to discuss non-caving topics, but recently messages with “OT” in the subject line have been creeping in, as if that warning makes their messages legitimate for the list. About a year ago, one frequent OT poster wrote me that he doesn’t like to post to the new list because few people are signed up for it. Maybe more people have signed up since then, but if not it suggests that most subscribers to TexasCaver.com want to read and discuss caving, not non-caving topics. George From:Matt Turner [mailto:kat...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:38 PM To: Allan Cobb; texas cavers tc Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT while Allan can tell you that I love to debate this topic. I tend to agree with him. I'd say come out to Colorado Bend State Park this weekend and debate it in person. Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale From:Allan Cobb To: texas cavers tc Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 1:49:51 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Climate change -- OT Texascavers mailing list is probably not the best forum to try to initiate a debate about climate change. Allan
