[Texascavers] New Zealand style caving
The video below is mainly a helicopter video, but shows how cavers get to and from a cave known as Bohemia Cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzXqoSt9to Bohemia Cave is in the Mount Owen Karst Area of the South Island of New Zealand. It was discovered in 1990 by members of the Czech speleological club Alberice. A large cavity was discovered in Bohemia Cave and its mineralogy was briefly summarised in T´asler (1998). The cavity itself was called “Dream of Alberice Cavers” and measures approximately 80m wide by 650m long which puts it in the list of large caverns by world standards. According to T´asler, most of the ceiling, walls and floor of this cavern are covered with aragonite speleothems of various sorts - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] [Fwd: Bob Mitchell on Sotano de Huitzmolotitla 1958]
Hi rene - a couple of fun stories from oldtimers . . . I seem to recall that you arent on cavetex. cheery spring, Nance The following article about the Jumar and the man who invented them appeared in the Fall 1970 issue of the Southwest Texas State University Grotto Newsletter. THE JUMAR FACTORY by Brian Peterson This summer while traveling in Switzerland, Keith Heuss and myself decided that we would try to locate the factory in which Jumar ascenders are manufactured. After examining our Jumars, we finally found a label still intact and managed to pick out the name of a town, Reichenbach, Switzerland. After about two hours of looking over a map, we located a tiny dot symbolic of the town. Quickly we jumped in the Volkswagon camper and proceeded to look for it. Could this small town be the home of a great factory? The name of the town did correspond to the name on the Jumar, but there were only about thirty chalets. We stopped at a store and I got out with a Jumar. Speaking no German, I proceeded to wave my arms, roll my eyeballs, and shove the Jumar in the proprietors face. He quickly got the idea and sent me on my way down the road. However, he did provide us with a map. Obviously, he was somewhat less than proficient in the arts of geography because by using his map we got completely confused. We decided that we would ask the help of other locals. After talking to several housewives; many of whom thought we were trying to sell them the Jumar, we arrived at still another chalet. I knocked at the door and a man came out. When I showed him the Jumar and asked if he knew what it was, he replied, Yes, I make them. Quietly picking myself off the ground, I began to explain why we had come. The man, Julius Marte, was very receptive and asked us inside. He speaks only a few words of English so he called a friend to translate. When the friend arrived we went down to the factory which is in Mr. Marte's basement. Jumar parts were everywhere! Wow! Fantastic! Mr. Marte opened a drawer approximately three feet long, two feet wide, and one and one-half foot deep. It was completely filled with right-hand Jumar jaws. He said that he originally designed these ascenders for use in climbing down to eagle nests to band baby eagles. This was back in 1958. Mountain climbers quickly saw the value of these devices and then later cavers started using them. The recent change in the alloy of the cams was necessary due to the grit and mud encountered in caves. We rigged a rope in his yard and showed him various methods of prussiking with his devices. He then showed us the method which is enclosed with the Jumars. He saw the value of our methods but joked with us by saying, I can understand why you don't know how to use them, I have never translated the instructions to English. We all laughed. We also demonstrated various rappell devices and Mr. Marte was quite interested. He requested that we collect and send him pictures of different climbing methods using his ascenders and any recommendations or improvements that we may have. Sotano_de_Huitzmolotitla.doc Description: MS-Word document - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] apologies
for sending to whole list. If you missed those stories the first time around they are worth reading. Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] any Honeycreek update ?
I am posting this at 3 p.m., Saturday. Are the divers out yet ? Are haulers in the cave bringing tanks out yet ? I am stuck in Fort Bend County. I couldn't make it. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] any Honeycreek update ?
Fine. They just exited. 830 feet straight, no change. Pencils no good. No survey, Hand line only. 17 still in. One exited shortly after Jean James, 5 mil suit - overheated. Ellie went back in this morning. All is well. Don's iPhone. On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:09 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I am posting this at 3 p.m., Saturday. Are the divers out yet ? Are haulers in the cave bringing tanks out yet ? I am stuck in Fort Bend County. I couldn't make it. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] any Honeycreek update ?
Great news, Don. I hope there's plenty of beer and food for the haulers, both. Roger -Original Message- From: Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com Cc: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Sat, Apr 3, 2010 3:14 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] any Honeycreek update ? Fine. They just exited. 830 feet straight, no change. Pencils no good. No survey, Hand line only. 17 still in. One exited shortly after Jean James, 5 mil suit - overheated. Ellie went back in this morning. All is well. Don's iPhone. On Apr 3, 2010, at 3:09 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I am posting this at 3 p.m., Saturday. Are the divers out yet ? Are haulers in the cave bringing tanks out yet ? I am stuck in Fort Bend County. I couldn't make it. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com =
[Texascavers] Fwd: Confirmed: Missing link a caver
-- Forwarded message -- From: Cheryl Jones cheryl.ca...@verizon.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:34 PM Subject: Confirmed: Missing link a caver To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/evolution/7550033/Missing-link-between-man-and-apes-found.html
Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Confirmed: Missing link a caver
Since Malapa and the other sinkholes and caverns around Sterkfontein were leopard dens and not habitation sites, and especially since the skeleton is made up of pieces of several small individuals, I suspect it would be better to say that the missing link is actually lots of pieces of scat -- food sources puttering around on the surrounding plains. For anyone visiting the area, the main caves and the lab are open to visitation and are worth the effort. john - Original Message - From: Gill Edigar To: Cavers Texas Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:09 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Confirmed: Missing link a caver -- Forwarded message -- From: Cheryl Jones cheryl.ca...@verizon.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:34 PM Subject: Confirmed: Missing link a caver To: siv...@listserv.vt.edu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/evolution/7550033/Missing-link-between-man-and-apes-found.html
texascavers Digest 4 Apr 2010 05:43:15 -0000 Issue 1017
texascavers Digest 4 Apr 2010 05:43:15 - Issue 1017 Topics (messages 14316 through 14323): New Zealand style caving 14316 by: David Re: Bob Mitchell on Sotano de Huitzmolotitla 1958] 14317 by: Nancy Weaver apologies 14318 by: Nancy Weaver any Honeycreek update ? 14319 by: David 14320 by: Don Arburn 14321 by: caverarch.aol.com Re: Confirmed: Missing link a caver 14322 by: Gill Edigar 14323 by: John Greer Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- The video below is mainly a helicopter video, but shows how cavers get to and from a cave known as Bohemia Cave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQzXqoSt9to Bohemia Cave is in the Mount Owen Karst Area of the South Island of New Zealand. It was discovered in 1990 by members of the Czech speleological club Alberice. A large cavity was discovered in Bohemia Cave and its mineralogy was briefly summarised in T´asler (1998). The cavity itself was called “Dream of Alberice Cavers” and measures approximately 80m wide by 650m long which puts it in the list of large caverns by world standards. According to T´asler, most of the ceiling, walls and floor of this cavern are covered with aragonite speleothems of various sorts ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi rene - a couple of fun stories from oldtimers . . . I seem to recall that you arent on cavetex. cheery spring, Nance The following article about the Jumar and the man who invented them appeared in the Fall 1970 issue of the Southwest Texas State University Grotto Newsletter. THE JUMAR FACTORY by Brian Peterson This summer while traveling in Switzerland, Keith Heuss and myself decided that we would try to locate the factory in which Jumar ascenders are manufactured. After examining our Jumars, we finally found a label still intact and managed to pick out the name of a town, Reichenbach, Switzerland. After about two hours of looking over a map, we located a tiny dot symbolic of the town. Quickly we jumped in the Volkswagon camper and proceeded to look for it. Could this small town be the home of a great factory? The name of the town did correspond to the name on the Jumar, but there were only about thirty chalets. We stopped at a store and I got out with a Jumar. Speaking no German, I proceeded to wave my arms, roll my eyeballs, and shove the Jumar in the proprietors face. He quickly got the idea and sent me on my way down the road. However, he did provide us with a map. Obviously, he was somewhat less than proficient in the arts of geography because by using his map we got completely confused. We decided that we would ask the help of other locals. After talking to several housewives; many of whom thought we were trying to sell them the Jumar, we arrived at still another chalet. I knocked at the door and a man came out. When I showed him the Jumar and asked if he knew what it was, he replied, Yes, I make them. Quietly picking myself off the ground, I began to explain why we had come. The man, Julius Marte, was very receptive and asked us inside. He speaks only a few words of English so he called a friend to translate. When the friend arrived we went down to the factory which is in Mr. Marte's basement. Jumar parts were everywhere! Wow! Fantastic! Mr. Marte opened a drawer approximately three feet long, two feet wide, and one and one-half foot deep. It was completely filled with right-hand Jumar jaws. He said that he originally designed these ascenders for use in climbing down to eagle nests to band baby eagles. This was back in 1958. Mountain climbers quickly saw the value of these devices and then later cavers started using them. The recent change in the alloy of the cams was necessary due to the grit and mud encountered in caves. We rigged a rope in his yard and showed him various methods of prussiking with his devices. He then showed us the method which is enclosed with the Jumars. He saw the value of our methods but joked with us by saying, I can understand why you don't know how to use them, I have never translated the instructions to English. We all laughed. We also demonstrated various rappell devices and Mr. Marte was quite interested. He requested that we collect and send him pictures of different climbing methods using his ascenders and any recommendations or improvements that we may have. Sotano_de_Huitzmolotitla.doc Description: MS-Word document ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- for sending to whole list. If you missed those stories the first time
