[Texascavers] International Exploration at the 2010 NSS Convention
Hello cavers! Have you been caving outside the US? How about giving a presentation on it at this year's NSS Convention? Yvonne Droms and I (Mark Minton) are co-chairing the International Exploration session and we are looking for speakers. Any talk about cave exploration anywhere in the world outside the US is welcome! (For exploration within the U. S. there is separate day-long session). The exact date for the International Exploration Session has not been determined yet, but it will be either the Tuesday or Wednesday of Convention week (Aug 3 or 4). Talks will be 20 - 30 minutes long depending upon how many presenters there are, and the session runs from 9 AM to 5 PM. You will need to send us an abstract of your talk by mid-May (only one month away!) so that it can be included in the Convention Program. See also this link for more information on presentations and abstracts: http://www.nss2010.com/sessions.php Please pass this request along to any caver you know who's been on an international expedition. Our contacts are: Mark Minton: mmin...@caver.net or mmin...@illinoisalumni.org Yvonne Droms: ydr...@rosettastone.com Thanks, and we hope to see you at the Convention in Vermont! Mark Minton and Yvonne Droms Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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[Texascavers] Pictures from February San Antonio/Austin caver trip to Bustamante
In February, 2010, San Antonio and Austin cavers went off-trail in Grutas de Bustamante in Nuevo Leon, Mexico. You can see the full-sized photos that I took here: I managed to light up most of Breakdown Mountain with a single flash, though it is grainy from the high ISO and Photoshop leveling work. You can also see the new developed walkways inside the cave, and the bright commercial lighting. http://picasaweb.google.com/barnarddale/20100212Bustamante?feat=directlink Dale - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] DP Deconstruction Cancelled
The weather forecast is calling for more showers thru the weekend, and wet steel is just plain dangerous for me and anyone standing under me when I fall, so I'm calling off the porch deconstruction portion of the DP weekend at this time. We will be rescheduling in the next few weeks. Don should be posting a notice about whether he intends to keep the other projects and caving open for this weekend. To those who've volunteered to help me with the project I thank you for your support and please check back for updates. Arron _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
Re: [Texascavers] DP Deconstruction Cancelled
The entire weekend is called off due to weather conditions. The roads will turn into a bog and piss off the neighbors. I'll announce a rescheduled weekend when we have one. Don's iPhone. On Apr 15, 2010, at 3:58 PM, A. Wertheim werthei...@hotmail.com wrote: The weather forecast is calling for more showers thru the weekend, and wet steel is just plain dangerous for me and anyone standing under me when I fall, so I'm calling off the porch deconstruction portion of the DP weekend at this time. We will be rescheduling in the next few weeks. Don should be posting a notice about whether he intends to keep the other projects and caving open for this weekend. To those who've volunteered to help me with the project I thank you for your support and please check back for updates. Arron Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Learn more.
[Texascavers] Re: CAVE DAY Saturday April 17, 2010-Cedar Park, TX-Helpers needed
CAVE DAY will be on rain or shine. Last year there was 4 inches of rain and 180 people still showed up. Please help out if you can.
texascavers Digest 16 Apr 2010 03:40:18 -0000 Issue 1030
texascavers Digest 16 Apr 2010 03:40:18 - Issue 1030 Topics (messages 14475 through 14484): Re: caving event question and TABC 14475 by: Joe Ranzau Re: Mexican Cell Phones 14476 by: Mark Minton 14477 by: Fofo NSS Convention 2010 14478 by: Charles Goldsmith NCRC next month 14479 by: Heather Tucek International Exploration at the 2010 NSS Convention 14480 by: Mark Minton Pictures from February San Antonio/Austin caver trip to Bustamante 14481 by: Dale Barnard DP Deconstruction Cancelled 14482 by: A. Wertheim 14483 by: Don Arburn Re: CAVE DAY Saturday April 17, 2010-Cedar Park, TX-Helpers needed 14484 by: ellie :) Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I delved into the TABC thing extensively for ICS. Just don't charge for it donations fine but not required and the technicality is that if someone walks off the street into the party they are eligible for the door prizes or a drink free. Can't discriminate. The good news is that won't happen but you should be safe. Joe On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.comwrote: David, Things seem to be shaping up nicely. You are obviously spending some time and money to make this first ever event a success. Your efforts should be rewarded with a nice turnout by friends, cavers and their families. Presuming the weather is nice, we should all make an effort to attend. If a larger number than David is anticipating show up, there will be adequate food if a backup of hot dogs is satisfactory. It isn't the food, it's the camaraderie and the outing. If the winery will not be serving, selling or having a wine tasting, I'm not sure why they will be setting up a booth. The property owner/manager's conditions for allowing participants to B.Y.O.B. seem confusing and unenforceable but what the heck, we can. Geezer and girls plan to attend. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:04 PM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] caving event question and TABC When cavers get together for small events in Texas, what is the protocol for deciding whether to apply for a temporary TABC permit?Such as the one at the wine tasting at ICS ( that was TCMA, right ? ) The cookout that I am hosting is about 4 miles from a winery, and they have volunteered to set up a small display booth, and I was considering buying about 6 bottles and giving them away as door prizes. But they will not be selling or serving the wine. The owner is o.k. with that idea. Do I need to pay for a TABC temporary permit? The problem is I will most likely have a donation bucket somewhere in the vicinity, and that is where the law gets crossed. On a related note, he also indicated he is o.k. with people having their own alcohol as long as it is not being served at the event, and as long as minors and kids are kept away from it. Here is the wine list: http://www.pleasanthillwinery.com/wine_list.htm I am waiting on an e-mail from the winery to see if they have a better idea. Please send the comments to me privately, in order not to bother the other subscribers. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- According to the article cited, to register a Mexican cell phone you need a person's CURP, a supposedly unique ID number. One might think those numbers would be kept private, sort of like social security numbers in the U.S. (admittedly not all that secret). I would have thought it would be difficult to register in someone else's name, but the article said many people were using Felipe Calderon, so I guess the numbers must be readily available. Mark Minton At 05:05 PM 4/13/2010, Rod Goke wrote: This raises at least two questions affecting people who travel to Mexico from outside that country: 1. What about travelers from outside Mexico who want to take their existing cell phones with them into Mexico? Will this be legal? Will they be required to register their phones when they enter Mexico? Will these cell
[Texascavers] Amistad Cave Project weekend in June :
There will be a scheduled project trip to Amistad National Recreation Area near Del Rio, Texas on the weekend of June 19-20, 2010. I have slots for about 15 people so this will be a first come-first serve opportunity for folks. The goals for the trip will be to: 1.) Relocate caves and karst features that were noted by the International Boundary Water Commission back in the early 1960s. We have rough locations and descriptions but no one has relocated and surveyed these features since then. 2.) Explore and survey the caves and karst features that have been relocated. 3.) Ridgewalk areas that have no known caves. Camping will be provided by the NPS at the group camping site. For those that want a warm bed and sit-down meal, Del Rio is only about 15 minutes away. Some of the caves may be vertical and/or require digging to open. The flora in the area can only be described as vicious so bring tweezers and long pants. Heavy hiking boots are a must if you don't want the cactus and lechuguilla to cripple you. The weather at that time of the year will be warm and probably dry, so plan accordingly. If you have any questions, please contact me off digest. I hope to see you all out there. There's plenty of caves and karst for everyone ! Jerry Atkinson.
[Texascavers] Second annual Floyd Collins Festival in Bowling Green :
Cave museum to host Collins celebration By NATALIE JORDAN, The Daily News Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:01 AM CDT In 1925 people across the nation, especially in cave country, listened intently to their radios, awaiting the fate of Floyd Collins, who found himself trapped after trying to find a new entrance into the system of underground caves that were popular tourist attractions. Known as one of the most famous cave explorers of his time, The American Cave Museum is set to host the second Floyd Collins Fest, a celebration of the life and times of Collins. “He was the operator of Crystal Cave, which he discovered in 1917 and is now part of Mammoth Cave National Park, and was looking for a new route to get inside Crystal Cave to get an edge on his competitors,” said David Foster, an organizer of the event. “He found a hole in Sand Cave. However, he got trapped on the way back out. A rock fell and wedged his foot in a tight crevice and he was not able to get out. And while this huge rescue effort was taking place above ground, he died.” Sponsored by the Hart County Chamber of Commerce, the Horse Cave Rotary Club and the Kentucky Arts Council, the three-day festival will be buzzing with activity from presentations to tours. “The Floyd Collins rescue was one of the biggest human interest media events. It was the first time radio broadcasters could report from remote locations, and people were listening to their radios for two weeks to find out what happened,” Foster said. “The whole ordeal attracted several hundred people, inspired a book, a movie and a hit song, ‘The Death of Floyd Collins,’ sung by country singer Vernon Dollheart.” The festival kicks off Friday with a reception at 5 p.m. at the American Cave Museum, which is followed by a presentation from author Roger Brucker, who wrote “Trapped!” and “The Longest Cave.” The festival will resume Saturday with registration beginning at 8 a.m. From 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m., those in attendance will be surrounded with a flurry of activity, such as viewing the exhibit of Floyd Collins Memorabilia to tours of Collins’ home in Sand Cave and his grave site. Those in attendance will also be able to participate in a question and answer session with the Collins family, historian Stan Sides and Dr. William Halliday, author of “Depths of the Earth.” In addition to the question and answer session, attendees will be able to watch a Floyd Collins documentary and rare film clips from the Collins era as well as listen to live music from that era during an old-time radio show at 7 p.m. at the Kentucky Repertory Theatre. Musical acts will include Foster, The Hart County Choral Society, Lock and Key Barbershop Quartet, Dale Jett and Hello Stranger, Hazel Johnson, Colin Grant-Adams and Harry Bickle. There will also be a tour of Hidden River Cave. On Sunday, field trips start. They are on a first-come, first-served basis, with a maximum of 25 per trip. There will be three field trips, with the first field trip touring Crystal Cave, the second trip visiting Diamond Caverns and Bells Tavern and the third field trip touring Kentucky Caverns and the Marshall Collins Cave. Tickets for the three-day festival are $25, which includes the radio show. Tickets for only the radio show at KRT are $10, and $10 for the Sunday tours. “Many older people still remember this,” Foster said. Foster said when Collins was later excavated from the cave, he lay in a glass coffin, and people would pay money to see the cave and him on the way into the cave. About 15 years ago, relatives of Collins petitioned the park to have him buried properly. In addition to the ordeal being one of the biggest movements in media, it also helped to galvanize Mammoth Cave National Park, he said. “This brought media attention to the whole cave region,” Foster said. “It was a time when new technology brought news to the masses that they may not have gotten before.” — For more information and/or tickets, call 270-786-1466. _http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2010/04/15/features/features6.txt_ (http://bgdailynews.com/articles/2010/04/15/features/features6.txt)
[Texascavers] cave scientist in the news
http://kykernel.com/2010/04/15/professor-goes-from-caves-to-classroom/ You have to be careful what you say when you do interviews with newspapers. ( Fortunately, I learned that lesson when I was young. ) In this case she claimed: “As far as I know, I am the only woman doing exploration and science in underwater caves,” she said. “There are some other women who cave dive, but they do it for exploration only and for a short time only.” If that is not true, I am sure it was taken out of context, or the reporter sensationalized it to get a good story. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] cave scientist in the news
As far as she knows -- she just doesn't know very far. :-) On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:56 PM, David wrote: http://kykernel.com/2010/04/15/professor-goes-from-caves-to-classroom/ You have to be careful what you say when you do interviews with newspapers. ( Fortunately, I learned that lesson when I was young. ) In this case she claimed: “As far as I know, I am the only woman doing exploration and science in underwater caves,” she said. “There are some other women who cave dive, but they do it for exploration only and for a short time only.” If that is not true, I am sure it was taken out of context, or the reporter sensationalized it to get a good story. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
