Re: [Texascavers] Shoe-based radar system for underground GPS
Doesn't sound like it would work too great if you were crawling through your typical Texas cave. Something like Carlsbad - OK... Scott --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Lee H. Skinner wrote: From: Lee H. Skinner Subject: [Texascavers] Shoe-based radar system for underground GPS To: "Cave Diggers" , "texascavers list" , "nmcaver list" , "Internal Communications of the Sandia Grotto" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 10:22 AM Now here's some food for thought: http://is.gd/i9bHd Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Bat hoodies!
Hi all-- Some friends of mine makes awesome hoodies and I thought I would pimp them to the cavers community. Presenting... BAT HOODIES! (With wings!!!) http://bunnywarez.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/64 They also make Bat Jammies, for those of you who want to keep toasty warm. http://bunnywarez.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/62 And if you browse around, they make all kinds of animals too, but I know the bat lies near and dear to your heart. If you order one, be sure to tell them I sent ya. (; Please feel free to forward to other caving list. Support local crafters in Oakland, CA. --Tina Mendez
Re: [Texascavers] Majlis Al Jinn
You are correct, Gary. Both Don and I worked for the Water Resources division I often stayed in their house in Muscat when I came in from the field. Cheryl was a gracous hostess as well as a supererb vertical caver. DirtDoc - Original Message - From: "Gary Moss" To: "Mixon Bill" , "Cavers Texas" Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:31:39 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Majlis Al Jinn If I remember correctly this cave was discovered and first explored by Don Davison and Cheryl Jones when they lived there. Gary Moss
[Texascavers] Re: Shoe-based
You are right. More like "If the Foo s--. Make sure your wear it. Doc
[Texascavers] Re: Shoe-based
Reminds me of some old shaggy-dog storry about if the Shoe Fits, wear it. DirtDoc
Re: [Texascavers] 3-D cave photography
You might not have to buy a 3D camera, just take a lot of pictures from different angles and use software like this: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/02/unc-team-builds-3d-m.html or Microsoft's Photosynth: http://photosynth.net/about.aspx Bob On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:01 AM, David wrote: > I believe I saw this camera for sale in Best Buy today for $ 499.99. > > http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/camera/finepix_real3dw1/ > > Potentially, cave photography could make a rapid change to 3D > once the 3D TV's become mainstream, which is probably less > than 5 years away. > > I have always enjoyed the 3D programs at the caving conventions, > and especially Dorothy Mladenka's. > > Imagine a newbie spelunker with no photography skills and on their 1st caving > trip being able to snap presentable 3D pictures? > > I look forward to being able to see 3D caving slideshows from the comfort of > my living room. > > David Locklear > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 3 Dec 2010 19:08:53 -0000 Issue 1203
t on the Wisconsin DNR WNS Rules - until Dec 3 at 4pm. For everyone that has been following the Wisconsin DNR's misguided WNS management plan. It's not too late to submit comments to Wisconsin regarding their WNS policies which will harm bat populations! We have until Dec 3 at 4pm CST. Although comments to the DNR were due Nov 29, we can still comment to the Natural Resources Board directly for their December 8th meeting. The NRB meeting on Dec 8 will be to discuss the newly revised WNS rules, from the Nov 29 comments and hearing but the DNR hasn't published the revised rules yet! Most likely the DNR won't publish the revised rules until right at the edge of the public comment cut off period. We have no reason to believe the revised rules will be substantially different from the original rules, which promote bat exclusion from hibernacula and claim humans are a major vector for WNS as well as ignores all bat roosts, except caves and mines, for control. Please comment on the original rules, which are the only ones available to the public to review (and are currently in force via emergency orders) For more information, including letter writing help, and copies of letters from the NSS, BCI, and others to the Wisconsin DNR please visit: http://www.mss-caving.org/Savethebats.htm <http://www.mss-caving.org/Savethebats.htm> PLEASE forward this email on!! -Eric McMaster NSS 40642 LF Minnesota Speleological Survey Save the Bats Committee --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I believe I saw this camera for sale in Best Buy today for $ 499.99. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/camera/finepix_real3dw1/ Potentially, cave photography could make a rapid change to 3D once the 3D TV's become mainstream, which is probably less than 5 years away. I have always enjoyed the 3D programs at the caving conventions, and especially Dorothy Mladenka's. Imagine a newbie spelunker with no photography skills and on their 1st caving trip being able to snap presentable 3D pictures? I look forward to being able to see 3D caving slideshows from the comfort of my living room. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- FYI the utgrotto calendar is being weirdly offset right now by google. We are not the only ones affected and google is trying to fix this problem soon. Thanks to everyone who pointed this out to me. Note that if you go to the week or day view it's normally correct. Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Now here's some food for thought: http://is.gd/i9bHd Lee Skinner --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- For those who are interested, here is most of the NASA Astrobiology Press Conference in two parts. The second part ends in mid-question, and I don't know how much is left out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr6okAKr-OI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO835qN1l10 (I didn't bother to investigate further, but it is apparent that the posting to Youtube was done by some kind of conspiracy theorist.) Roger Moore --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- As many know, NCKRI's Dr. Penny Boston is one of the world's leading researchers on extraterrestrial life. Below is a link to the prestigious TED conference, which has a 20 minute video from a few years ago of Penny talking about how caves are part her studies to better understand what and where to look for life beyond Earth. George http://blog.ted.com/2010/12/02/nasa-finds-arsenic-based-life-a-tedtalks-play list-for-context/ *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 1400 Commerce Drive Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 09:25 To: texascavers@texascavers.com; floridacav...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Texascavers] NASA Microbiology Press Conference Video For those who are interested, here is most of the NASA Astrobiology Press Conference in two parts. The second part ends in mid-question, and I don't know how much is left out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr6okAKr-OI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO835qN1l10 (I didn't bother to investigate further, but it is apparent that the posting to Youtube was done by some kind of conspiracy theorist.) Roger Moore --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Caving in Puerto Rico: http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20101203/NEWS01/12030311 Lee Skinner --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Some of you may know Steve Taylor, who hangs around Austin periodically and has done a bunch of invertebrate work here, particularly on Fort Hood. He is also a good friend and former caving buddy of Jean "Creature" Krejca. He is featured is a really nice article at http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/adaptation-of-creatures-that-dwell-in-ca ves-0806/, which also includes one of Jean's phenomenal photos of a pseudoscorpion. -- Crash --- End Message ---
RE: [Texascavers] NASA Microbiology Press Conference Video
As many know, NCKRI's Dr. Penny Boston is one of the world's leading researchers on extraterrestrial life. Below is a link to the prestigious TED conference, which has a 20 minute video from a few years ago of Penny talking about how caves are part her studies to better understand what and where to look for life beyond Earth. George http://blog.ted.com/2010/12/02/nasa-finds-arsenic-based-life-a-tedtalks-play list-for-context/ *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 1400 Commerce Drive Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 09:25 To: texascavers@texascavers.com; floridacav...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Texascavers] NASA Microbiology Press Conference Video For those who are interested, here is most of the NASA Astrobiology Press Conference in two parts. The second part ends in mid-question, and I don't know how much is left out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr6okAKr-OI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO835qN1l10 (I didn't bother to investigate further, but it is apparent that the posting to Youtube was done by some kind of conspiracy theorist.) Roger Moore
[Texascavers] cave biology
Some of you may know Steve Taylor, who hangs around Austin periodically and has done a bunch of invertebrate work here, particularly on Fort Hood. He is also a good friend and former caving buddy of Jean "Creature" Krejca. He is featured is a really nice article at http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/adaptation-of-creatures-that-dwell-in-ca ves-0806/, which also includes one of Jean's phenomenal photos of a pseudoscorpion. -- Crash
[Texascavers] Tonight's Deadly Descent pilot episode on the Science Channel
Caving in Puerto Rico: http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20101203/NEWS01/12030311 Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] NASA Microbiology Press Conference Video
For those who are interested, here is most of the NASA Astrobiology Press Conference in two parts. The second part ends in mid-question, and I don't know how much is left out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr6okAKr-OI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO835qN1l10 (I didn't bother to investigate further, but it is apparent that the posting to Youtube was done by some kind of conspiracy theorist.) Roger Moore
[Texascavers] Shoe-based radar system for underground GPS
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[Texascavers] RE: The other other white meat
Guinea hens, yes. Guinea pigs, I don't think so. Fritz From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:57 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] The other other white meat Folks, A fellow employee is giving away two very plump and organically raised guinea pigs with a cage. They even answer when called so you wouldn't have to chase them around the cage to catch them. Anyway, if someone is looking for an alternative to turkey, ham or pork, for Christmas, they are available. Yes, guinea pigs, the other other white meat. Geary
Re: [Texascavers] The other other white meat
"Cuy" doggies! TDec 2, 2010 04:56:50 PM, gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: Folks, A fellow employee is giving away two very plump and organically raised guinea pigs with a cage. They even answer when called so you wouldn’t have to chase them around the cage to catch them. Anyway, if someone is looking for an alternative to turkey, ham or pork, for Christmas, they are available. Yes, guinea pigs, the other other white meat. Geary - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] The other other white meat
Folks, The guinea pigs have been spoken for. I'm not sure if they are going to end up as dinner, breeding livestock, pets, or all of the above. Anyway, they are off the table for the moment LOL. Also, thanks for all the recipes, I'll keep them in mind for future dinner plans. Seems that some of them might also work for possum - another Texas (and West Virginia) holiday tradition. Geary
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Calendar
FYI the utgrotto calendar is being weirdly offset right now by google. We are not the only ones affected and google is trying to fix this problem soon. Thanks to everyone who pointed this out to me. Note that if you go to the week or day view it's normally correct. Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale
Re: Re: [Texascavers] Re: Convention prices
Vermonters make their money off of out of staters, summer & fall & winter. "Spring" is mud season. TDec 2, 2010 08:40:26 PM, gi...@att.net wrote: When we had the NSS Convention in New Braunfels in 1978 many of uswere sick and tired of NSS Conventions costing 70 or 80 dollars, plusthe cost of fuel to get there. So we vowed that the Texas conventionwould not cost that much. Through much volunteer effort we managed tohave what was described later by attendees from afar as one of thebest conventions up to that time--and for only a $15 registration fee.Though there were a couple of other co-chairs and several dozendedicated organizers, Ronnie Fieseler was the driving force behindmaking it the success it was.--EdigerOn Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Mark Minton wrote:> A version of Mixon's scenario happened at the NSS Convention in> Vermont last summer. The venue required that they do many things that caver> volunteers would normally have done, and they charged a hefty fee to do so.> For instance there was a conspicuous lack of beer. I think there were a> very few kegs at only one event, apparently because the venue charged over> $400 each to have their personnel order and operate them. What a rip! I> was told that the venue seemed like a reasonable deal when they signed up> for it, but they then found out about all the hidden charges in the fine> print. I heard that it ended up being one of the most expensive venues ever> when it was all over. :-(>> Mark Minton>> At 12:31 PM 11/30/2010, Mixon Bill wrote: My point, of course, was that NSS conventions are good deals. But>> still I can't imagine how anybody can spend $500 per person on a small>> three-day conference. Well, maybe I can. Let the hotel handle>> everything. Badges, $10 each (actual value 75¢). Registration desk,>> $150 an hour. Security guard to make sure nobody sneaks in without a>> badge, $50 an hour. Use of AV equipment, $200 an hour. Pay somebody>> for the simple job of putting together the program book, $2000. Nobody>> will think you're "professional" if you do anything yourself rather>> than spending money. -- Mixon>> Please reply to mmin...@caver.net> Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org>> -> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com>>-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] 3-D cave photography
I believe I saw this camera for sale in Best Buy today for $ 499.99. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/3d/camera/finepix_real3dw1/ Potentially, cave photography could make a rapid change to 3D once the 3D TV's become mainstream, which is probably less than 5 years away. I have always enjoyed the 3D programs at the caving conventions, and especially Dorothy Mladenka's. Imagine a newbie spelunker with no photography skills and on their 1st caving trip being able to snap presentable 3D pictures? I look forward to being able to see 3D caving slideshows from the comfort of my living room. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
