[Texascavers] honey creek carpool

[ryan monjaras]

anyone going from San Marcos or austinites traveling through San Marcos that 
would like to carpool to honey creek please contact me off list

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Re: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[tbsamsel]

Gabby Hayeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_%22Gabby%22_HayesJan 26, 2011 03:06:22 PM, a...@gluesenkamp.com wrote:
Gibby Haynes?  Frontman for the Bu**hole Surfers?  He' is definitely scruffy-lookin' but not someone I'd want to go caving with. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.700 Billie Brooks DriveDriftwood, Texas 78619(512) 799-1095a...@gluesenkamp.com 




From: Diana Tomchick To: " " Cc: "" ; "" Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 11:03:34 AMSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?Gabby-who?You're showing your age, dude.In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, it helps to be photogenic, too.DianaP.S. Last night on Turner
 Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a forgettable B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely familiar," I thought. I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic March's turn in "Inherit the Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he was a romantic lead in the movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Diana R. TomchickAssociate ProfessorUniversity of Texas Southwestern Medical CenterDepartment of Biochemistry5323 Harry Hines Blvd.Rm. ND10.214BDallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu214-645-6383 (phone)214-645-6353 (fax)On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM,  wrote:> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?>> T>>> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.>> Roger Moore> Houston -Original
 Message-> From: Leslie Bell> To: texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?>> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in gear, for fun.> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.>> Leslie Bell> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:>> From: Nico Escamilla > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?> To: "Allan Cobb" > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com> Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM>> Where's the "like" button here?>> Nico>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.>> Allan>>> - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comUT Southwestern Medical CenterThe future of medicine, today.-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com


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Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[Andy Gluesenkamp]

Gibby Haynes?  Frontman for the Bu**hole Surfers?  He' is definitely 
scruffy-lookin' but not someone I'd want to go caving with.
 Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
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From: Diana Tomchick 
To: " " 
Cc: "" ; "" 

Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 11:03:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
Caving?

Gabby-who?

You're showing your age, dude.

In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be 
well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, 
it helps to be photogenic, too.

Diana

P.S. Last night on Turner Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a 
forgettable 
B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely familiar," I thought. 
I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic March's turn in "Inherit the 
Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he was a romantic lead in the 
movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)



On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM, 
 wrote:

> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in 
>seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is 
>perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie 
>Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?
>
> T
>
>
> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:
> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, 
> Louisiana, 
>with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always did in the 
>field 
>(jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I had already 
>retired 
>my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.
>
> Roger Moore
> Houston
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leslie Bell
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
>Caving?
>
> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in 
>gear, for fun.
> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.
>
> Leslie Bell
> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:
>
> From: Nico Escamilla 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
>Caving?
> To: "Allan Cobb" 
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
> Where's the "like" button here?
>
> Nico
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a 
> MOVIE 
>not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to 
>temporarily 
>suspend reality for a little entertainment.
>
> Allan
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[Andy Gluesenkamp]

and Bleach and Lysol!

and bat guano. 




-Original Message-
From: ryan monjaras 
To: bellem...@yahoo.com; texas cavers 
Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 6:44 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
Caving?


we could even go caving before hand and show up covered in dirt

"Semper Exploro" Ryan Monjaras 
Maverick Grotto
Cowtown Grotto
DFW Grotto
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Bexar Grotto
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:18:35 -0800
From: bellem...@yahoo.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
Caving?


I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in 
gear, for fun. 

Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.

Leslie Bell 

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:


>From: Nico Escamilla 
>Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
>Caving?
>To: "Allan Cobb" 
>Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
>Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
>
>Where's the "like" button here? 
>
>
>Nico
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>
>Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a 
>MOVIE 
>not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to 
>temporarily 
>suspend reality for a little entertainment.
>> Allan
> 
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Re: [SWR] FW: BLM News Release:

[Carl Pagano]

Interesting that Carlsbad Caverns, home to how many tens of thousands of bats, 
and visited by how many tens of thousands of people, MANY from states where WNS 
is in full swing, is not closed. Ah, the real reason...it generates MONEYI 
know that it is NPS, but what good is a knee jerk reaction from the BLM going 
to do except alleviate some consciences, thus allowing them to throw up their 
hands to the sky and say that they honestly did all they could..HOW 
PATHETIC on the part of BLM. ALSO HOW TYPICAL. 
  Just a thought..WOULD A LITTLE REAL SCIENCE help here folks??? And 
YES, it is my, and millions of others TAX DOLLARS that are paying for this 
knee-jerk jerk-asenine reaction.
   Thank you.
  Carl..
On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Ken Harrington wrote:

> Here is a notice from BLM for anyone who did not see Jennifer's e-mail on the 
> same subject.
>  
> Ken
> 
> Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
> rain. 
> 
> 
>  
> > Subject: BLM News Release: 
> > To: kmcar...@fs.fed.us; amorri...@fs.fed.us; paula_ba...@nps.gov; 
> > martin.frent...@state.nm.us; dhum...@blm.gov; leslie_del...@nps.gov; 
> > spo...@fs.fed.us; dgilles...@nckri.org;mcha...@fs.fed.us; 
> > blbarr...@fs.fed.us; gv...@nckri.org; ll...@gis.nmt.edu; 
> > ken_harring...@hotmail.com; wthrsw...@carlsbadnm.com; 
> > frank.ever...@gmail.com; r...@innerrealmbooks.com;p...@innerrealmbooks.com; 
> > william.tuc...@att.net; bel...@valornet.com; bels...@valornet.com; 
> > dgilles...@nckri.org; deserttr...@msn.com; cavexplo...@me.com; 
> > bill.wes...@wipp.ws;skin...@thuntek.net; gyp...@gmail.com; 
> > caverp...@gmail.com; klairwa...@gmail.com; dave.dec...@caves.org; 
> > john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com; bigredfo...@yahoo.com;guinnes...@aol.com; 
> > kief...@unm.edu; caver...@yahoo.com; wcwal...@zianet.com; 
> > gypca...@comcast.net; nmba...@zianet.com; robw...@wwdb.org; 
> > dnort...@unm.edu;ing...@explorenm.com; cavewe...@windstream.net; 
> > william.tuc...@att.net; kjhu...@unm.edu; wnsliai...@caves.org; 
> > caver...@gmail.com; mbbi...@yahoo.com;marikay_ram...@blm.gov; 
> > wmerh...@blm.gov; dhum...@blm.gov; dbur...@blm.gov; 
> > cherieedwa...@fs.fed.us; pb...@fs.fed.us; cschm...@blm.gov; 
> > john_benja...@nps.gov;gzi...@fs.fed.us; paula_ba...@nps.gov; 
> > jerry_tr...@fs.fed.us; dale_p...@nps.gov; aaron_stock...@blm.gov; 
> > tom_buck...@fws.gov; blbarr...@fs.fed.us; 
> > kjo...@blm.gov;lindsey_e...@blm.gov; t...@blm.gov; brianda...@fs.fed.us; 
> > dow...@fs.fed.us; mhakk...@blm.gov; jbarn...@blm.gov; earme...@fs.fed.us; 
> > ray_lis...@blm.gov; lcord...@fs.fed.us;tom_phill...@blm.gov; 
> > oswaldo_go...@blm.gov; kayci_c...@nps.gov; james_good...@blm.gov; 
> > mike_bi...@blm.gov; clay_...@slo.state.nm.us; 
> > paul_barr...@fws.gov;cyndee_wat...@fws.gov; james.stu...@state.nm.us; 
> > blbol...@fs.fed.us
> > From: dhum...@blm.gov
> > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:40:37 -0700
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > Sorry for the delay in forwarding this. The federal register notice
> > defining BLM's initial closure of 28 caves with significant bat roosts was
> > published yesterday. Here is the news release that went to media late
> > yesterday - received wide coverage overnight with AP, NPR and others.
> > 
> > White-Nose Syndrome Threat Closes 28 BLM Caves in New Mexico
> > 
> > 
> > Santa Fe – The Bureau of Land Management published notice in the Federal
> > Register today closing 28 caves to public visitation for the next two years
> > in an effort to reduce the threat of White-nose Syndrome to bats. The
> > temporary closures affect caves that are known to have significant bat
> > roosts.
> > 
> > White-nose syndrome (WNS) is a disease that has killed over one million
> > hibernating bats in the East and Southeast in the past four years. The
> > fungus associated with the disease, Geomyces destructans, was found on a
> > bat in western Oklahoma last May thus elevating the concern that the fungus
> > might next arrive in New Mexico. The fungus is known to be transmitted
> > from bat to bat and from cave to bat. Scientific data also indicates that
> > fungal spores may be spread inadvertently by humans, their clothing, or
> > caving gear from one cave, mine or bat roost to another.
> > 
> > Today’s closure notice is a continuation of the interagency efforts to
> > protect New Mexico’s bats that included the development of the White-nose
> > Syndrome Interagency Response Plan for New Mexico in November 2010. Various
> > user groups and interested publics provided input into the state plan and
> > helped develop criteria used to identify significant caves and strategies
> > for preventing human transmission of the fungus.
> > 
> > The following BLM caves are now closed:
> > 
> > Field Office BLM Caves Closed Due to WNS
> > 
> > Roswell Bat Hole, Big-eared, Corn Sinkhole, Crockett's,
> > Crystal, Feather, Fly, Fort Stanton, Malpais
> > Madness, Smiley, Sun Spot, Torgac's, Torgac's Annex,
> > Tres Nin

[Texascavers] Fwd: Sewage dump into the Medina River?

[caverarch]

The information on potential sewage discharge into the Medina River in the 
Castroville area (last paragraph) seems like it would be of interest to friends 
of karst in the area, as well as paddlers.  Plus there are some dates for river 
activities if you aren't going caving.


Roger Moore


-Original Message-
From: Tom Goynes 
To: List Serv Canoetx 
Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 9:41 am
Subject: TRPA newsletter and Castroville news


Hello Paddlers,


Just wanted to let ya'll know that I have high hopes of getting the Texas 
Rivers Protection Association newsletter out next week, so if anyone has 
anything that needs to go in that newsletter, now is the time to let me know.


Here are some of the dates that you should note: March 5: San Marcos River 
Clean Up;  March 5: Annual Basura Bash - San Antonio; March 6: Annual TRPA 
meeting (at San Marcos River Retreat); April 2: Brazos River Cleanup; April 16 
and 17: Hidalgo Falls River Festival; May 7: Medina River Cleanup; May 7: 
Calallen Earth Club Annual River Cleanup - Corpus Christi.


You can read more about these (and other) events on our website: 
www.txrivers.org


Update on the Castroville sewage discharge case:  Brief history: The City of 
Castroville applied for a permit three years ago to discharge their sewage into 
the Medina River.  Up to now, they have been using that sewage to irrigate some 
kind of crop.  In our opinion, their sewage treatment plant is woefully 
inadequate, so we asked for a contested case hearing.  The Texas Commission on 
Environmental Quality denied our request for a contested case hearing, so we 
appealed their decision.  The appeal was heard by a Judge in Austin in early 
June of this past year.  We just got word last week that we won that appeal and 
that the TCEQ has been instructed to grant us a contested case hearing.  It is 
always possible that the state will appeal that order, but for now, we are 
winning.  I will have more info in the newsletter.


Hope to see you at the San Marcos Clean Up!


Tom Goynes


 
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texascavers Digest 26 Jan 2011 18:15:28 -0000 Issue 1233

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texascavers Digest 26 Jan 2011 18:15:28 - Issue 1233

Topics (messages 16938 through 16951):

Re: [SWR] Fw: BLM "Bat-Cave" closures in NM
16938 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

Distinguished Lecture Speaker - John Mylroie to speak on April 13
16939 by: Geary Schindel

Website is up for 2011 TSA Spring Convention
16940 by: ellie :)

Re: Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?
16941 by: caverarch
16942 by: ryan monjaras
16943 by: germanyj.aol.com
16944 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
16945 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
16946 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
16947 by: Speleosteele.aol.com
16948 by: Diana Tomchick
16949 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
16950 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
16951 by: ryan monjaras

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Thanks, Diana.

 

 

 

 

Here's the list:

 

 

Billy the Kid, Dry, Endless, McKittrick, Rusty Hinge, Sand, Adobe, and
Yellowjacket caves administered by the Carlsbad Field Office; 

 

Geronimo, U-Bar and Lepto Splat caves administered by Las Cruces
District Office; 

 

Pronoun Cave Complex administered by the Rio Puerco Field Office; 

 

Bat Hole, Big-eared, Corn Sinkhole, Crockett's, Crystal, Feather, Fly,
Fort Stanton, Malpais Madness, Smiley, Sun Spot, Torgac's, Torgac's
Annex, Tres Nin~ os caves, and Martin-Antelope Gyp Cave Complex
administered by the Roswell Field Office,

 

and Ladrone Cave administered by the Socorro Field Office.

 

 

DATES: This closure will be in effect from January 25, 2011 and not to
exceed January 25, 2013.

 

 

Probably only a matter of time until some other popular caves join the
list!

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:01 AM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: [SWR] Fw: BLM "Bat-Cave" closures in NM

 

 

Begin forwarded message:





From: jennifer 

List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: January 25, 2011 10:56:06 AM CST

To: , ,


Subject: [SWR] Fw: BLM "Bat-Cave" closures in NM





Just published in the Federal Register.  

 

See attachment  orlink here
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/docs/BLMCaveClosed_01252011.pdf

 

 

 

 




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The future of medicine, today.

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--- Begin Message ---
Folks,

I am pleased to announce that John Mylroie, Professor of Geology at Mississippi 
State University will be our next Distinguished Lecturer on Wednesday, April 13 
at SWRI.  The presentation will start at 9:00 am and run through 4:30 pm.  
Lunch will be provided.  Cost of the lecture is $20 and $10 for students.

John specializes in karst processes and Quaternary climate, Quaternary 
carbonate depositional systems, fresh-water lens on carbonate islands, cave 
development and speleogenesis and resource management in karst.  John is the 
recipient of the Lifetime Science Achievement Award and the Honorary Member 
Award (the highest award) from the National Speleological Society.  He has been 
a keynote speaker at numerous conferences and has been the president of the 
Karst Waters Institute and now serves on their board of directors.

If you are interested in attending the meeting, please send me an email and 
I'll add your name to a list to receive future registration material.

Thanks,

Geary

Geary M. Schindel, P.G.
Chief Technical Officer
EDWARDS  AQUIFER
 A   U   T   H   O   R   I   T   Y
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A big THANKS to Butch Fralia for putting up the website for this years TSA
Spring Convention.

View the site at:

http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2011.html

Hope to see you all there!

Ellie Watson
San Antonio, TX
Bexar Grotto
--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, Louisiana, 
with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always did in the 
field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I had already 
retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.


Roger Moore
Houston





-Original Message-
From: Leslie Bell 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
Caving?




I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in 
gear, for fun. 
Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.

Leslie Bell 

--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:


From: Nico Escamilla 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "

Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[trogdog]

Find virgin cave all the time at Colorado Bend 

Sent from my HTC EVO

- Reply message -
From: "Diana Tomchick" 
Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 11:03 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
Caving?
To: "  " 
Cc: "" , "" 



Gabby-who?

You're showing your age, dude.

In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be 
well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, 
it helps to be photogenic, too.

Diana

P.S. Last night on Turner Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a 
forgettable B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely 
familiar," I thought. I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic 
March's turn in "Inherit the Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he 
was a romantic lead in the movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)



On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM, 
  wrote:

> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in 
> seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is 
> perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie 
> Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?
>
> T
>
>
> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:
> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, 
> Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always 
> did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I 
> had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.
>
> Roger Moore
> Houston
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leslie Bell
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
> Caving?
>
> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in 
> gear, for fun.
> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.
>
> Leslie Bell
> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:
>
> From: Nico Escamilla 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
> Caving?
> To: "Allan Cobb" 
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
> Where's the "like" button here?
>
> Nico
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a 
> MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to 
> temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[tbsamsel]

I've got a friend who was offered an appointment to West Point while he was in the Army in the early 1960s. The catch was that because he had bad acne, he would have to have his face sanded since West Point don't want no ugly graduates. He declined their "generous" offer.
 
I guess caving has become more concerned with outward appearances than with "inner beauty". 
 
TJan 26, 2011 11:02:37 AM, diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu wrote:
Gabby-who?You're showing your age, dude.In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, it helps to be photogenic, too.DianaP.S. Last night on Turner Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a forgettable B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely familiar," I thought. I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic March's turn in "Inherit the Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he was a romantic lead in the movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Diana R. TomchickAssociate ProfessorUniversity of Texas Southwestern Medical CenterDepartment of Biochemistry5323 Harry Hines Blvd.Rm. ND10.214BDallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu214-645-6383 (phone)214-645-6353 (fax)On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM, wrote:> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?>> T>>> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists. We dressed like we always did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear. I think I had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.>> Roger Moore> Houston -Original Message-> From: Leslie Bell> To: texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?>> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in gear, for fun.> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.>> Leslie Bell> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla wrote:>> From: Nico Escamilla > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?> To: "Allan Cobb" > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com> Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM>> Where's the "like" button here?>> Nico>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb wrote:> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out. I am going to see a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY. I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.>> Allan>>> - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comUT Southwestern Medical CenterThe future of medicine, today.

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Re: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[tbsamsel]

Hey, I'm still alive. And glad to be a geezer.  Dang punks.Jan 26, 2011 11:02:37 AM, diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu wrote:
Gabby-who?You're showing your age, dude.In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, it helps to be photogenic, too.DianaP.S. Last night on Turner Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a forgettable B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely familiar," I thought. I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic March's turn in "Inherit the Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he was a romantic lead in the movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Diana R. TomchickAssociate ProfessorUniversity of Texas Southwestern Medical CenterDepartment of Biochemistry5323 Harry Hines Blvd.Rm. ND10.214BDallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu214-645-6383 (phone)214-645-6353 (fax)On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM, wrote:> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?>> T>>> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists. We dressed like we always did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear. I think I had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.>> Roger Moore> Houston -Original Message-> From: Leslie Bell> To: texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?>> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in gear, for fun.> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.>> Leslie Bell> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla wrote:>> From: Nico Escamilla > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?> To: "Allan Cobb" > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com> Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM>> Where's the "like" button here?>> Nico>> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb wrote:> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out. I am going to see a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY. I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.>> Allan>>> - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.comUT Southwestern Medical CenterThe future of medicine, today.

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Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[Diana Tomchick]

Gabby-who?

You're showing your age, dude.

In order to explore and survey virgin cave in Texas these days, you have to be 
well-prepared for long, hard trips, and since everyone has waterproof cameras, 
it helps to be photogenic, too.

Diana

P.S. Last night on Turner Classic Movies I caught a few minutes of a 
forgettable B&W screwball comedy from 1937. "That actor looks vaguely 
familiar," I thought. I was surprised to discover that prior to Frederic 
March's turn in "Inherit the Wind (1960)" and "Death of a Salesman (1951)" he 
was a romantic lead in the movies of the '30's. I guess it's all relative.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
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On Jan 26, 2011, at 6:17 AM, 
  wrote:

> I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in 
> seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is 
> perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie 
> Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?
>
> T
>
>
> Jan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:
> I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, 
> Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always 
> did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I 
> had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages.
>
> Roger Moore
> Houston
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leslie Bell
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
> Caving?
>
> I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in 
> gear, for fun.
> Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.
>
> Leslie Bell
> --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:
>
> From: Nico Escamilla 
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of 
> Caving?
> To: "Allan Cobb" 
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM
>
> Where's the "like" button here?
>
> Nico
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a 
> MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to 
> temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.
>
> Allan
>
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[SWR] FW: BLM News Release:

[Ken Harrington]

Here is a notice from BLM for anyone who did not see Jennifer's e-mail on the 
same subject.
 
Ken

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the 
rain. 


 
> Subject: BLM News Release: 
> To: kmcar...@fs.fed.us; amorri...@fs.fed.us; paula_ba...@nps.gov; 
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> ken_harring...@hotmail.com; wthrsw...@carlsbadnm.com; 
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> william.tuc...@att.net; bel...@valornet.com; bels...@valornet.com; 
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> From: dhum...@blm.gov
> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:40:37 -0700
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> Sorry for the delay in forwarding this. The federal register notice
> defining BLM's initial closure of 28 caves with significant bat roosts was
> published yesterday. Here is the news release that went to media late
> yesterday - received wide coverage overnight with AP, NPR and others.
> 
> White-Nose Syndrome Threat Closes 28 BLM Caves in New Mexico
> 
> 
> Santa Fe – The Bureau of Land Management published notice in the Federal
> Register today closing 28 caves to public visitation for the next two years
> in an effort to reduce the threat of White-nose Syndrome to bats. The
> temporary closures affect caves that are known to have significant bat
> roosts.
> 
> White-nose syndrome (WNS) is a disease that has killed over one million
> hibernating bats in the East and Southeast in the past four years. The
> fungus associated with the disease, Geomyces destructans, was found on a
> bat in western Oklahoma last May thus elevating the concern that the fungus
> might next arrive in New Mexico. The fungus is known to be transmitted
> from bat to bat and from cave to bat. Scientific data also indicates that
> fungal spores may be spread inadvertently by humans, their clothing, or
> caving gear from one cave, mine or bat roost to another.
> 
> Today’s closure notice is a continuation of the interagency efforts to
> protect New Mexico’s bats that included the development of the White-nose
> Syndrome Interagency Response Plan for New Mexico in November 2010. Various
> user groups and interested publics provided input into the state plan and
> helped develop criteria used to identify significant caves and strategies
> for preventing human transmission of the fungus.
> 
> The following BLM caves are now closed:
> 
> Field Office BLM Caves Closed Due to WNS
> 
> Roswell Bat Hole, Big-eared, Corn Sinkhole, Crockett's,
> Crystal, Feather, Fly, Fort Stanton, Malpais
> Madness, Smiley, Sun Spot, Torgac's, Torgac's Annex,
> Tres Ninos and Martin-Antelope Gyp Cave Complex
> 
> Carlsbad Billy the Kid, Dry, Endless, McKittrick, Rusty
> Hinge, Sand, Adobe, and Yellowjacket
> 
> Las Cruces Geronimo, U-Bar and Lepto Splat
> 
> Socorro Ladrone
> 
> Rio Puerco Pronoun Cave Complex
> 
> 
> Although other caves and mines on BLM public lands remain open, subject to
> prior restrictions and/or permit requirements, the public
> is discouraged from entering any caves and
> underground abandoned mine features on public lands to limit the potential
> spread of the fungus. Mandatory decontamination of
> clothing and gear is required of anyone entering
> non-commercial caves or mines on federal lands. The most current WNS
> decontamination protocols and gear dedication procedures
> are available at
> http://www.fws.gov/whitenosesyndrome/index.html.
> 
> New Mexico is home to 28 species of bats, including sixteen that hibernate
> in state. Bats play a critical role in many cave ecosystems 

Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[Speleosteele]

And to Mike's credit, he does still go underground, but he now lives and 
caves in Montana. He also has a colorful nylon cave suit. He's retired and is 
a man of means it seems. I was talking about underground Texas these days. 
 
Bill 

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[tbsamsel]

Wrongo! I was thinking of McEachern in 1976(?) with his specs repaired with stained glass materials..
 
TJan 26, 2011 06:39:17 AM, speleoste...@aol.com wrote:

Actually Ted, that's the way cavers look who are going underground these days. They have fancy duds, are clean shaven, there are more women than in your day, there are some tatoos, and over all they are lean and muscular. You've been looking at who shows up at TCR and think they still go in caves.
 
Bill 

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Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[Speleosteele]

Actually Ted, that's the way cavers look who are going underground these 
days. They have fancy duds, are clean shaven, there are more women than in 
your day, there are some tatoos, and over all they are lean and muscular. 
You've been looking at who shows up at TCR and think they still go in caves.
 
Bill 

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?

[tbsamsel]

I notice in the trailers that the intrepid group is all spiffed out in seemingly new REI-like toggery. No old clothes .. and everyone's makeup is perfect. What a crock.. aren't there any Gabby Hayes-like (or Marjorie Main-like) scruffy sorts available for these acting gigs?
 
TJan 25, 2011 04:16:50 PM, cavera...@aol.com wrote:
I saw the initial release of Raiders of the Lost Ark in Alexandria, Louisiana, with a bunch of other archeologists.  We dressed like we always did in the field (jeans and T-shirts), but carried no field gear.  I think I had already retired my pith helmet by then, but I had worn fedoras for ages. 

Roger Moore
Houston

-Original Message-From: Leslie Bell To: texascavers@texascavers.comSent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 9:18 amSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?





I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in gear, for fun. 
Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out.Leslie Bell 
--- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla  wrote:
From: Nico Escamilla Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?To: "Allan Cobb" Cc: texascavers@texascavers.comDate: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM
Where's the "like" button here? 

Nico
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:


Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out.  I am going to see a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY.  I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment.
 
Allan

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