[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Photo Salon

2011-02-13 Thread Don Arburn
Time to spread the word, dig out those awesome photos, and share them with 
Cavers!

Details coming soon! 


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[PBSS] Fw: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave

2011-02-13 Thread Bill Bentley

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Subject: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave


A TAGNET post noted that there were two fatalities in Ellison's Cave.  Here is 
the link to an article in the 

Chattanooga Times Free Press.

 

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/feb/12/2-found-dead-walker-cave/

 

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[Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave

2011-02-13 Thread Geary Schindel
A TAGNET post noted that there were two fatalities in Ellison's Cave.  Here is 
the link to an article in the

Chattanooga Times Free Press.



http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/feb/12/2-found-dead-walker-cave/



Geary


RE: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave

2011-02-13 Thread Linda Palit
http://www.jocosarblog.org/jocosarblog/2011/02/ga-bodies-of-two-students-fou
nd-in-ellisons-cave.html

 

a little more information maybe

 

From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:40 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave

 

A TAGNET post noted that there were two fatalities in Ellison's Cave.  Here
is the link to an article in the 

Chattanooga Times Free Press.

 

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/feb/12/2-found-dead-walker-cave/

 

Geary



RE: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave

2011-02-13 Thread ryan monjaras

apparently they got tangled on rope 
http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14019138

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[mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] 
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Subject: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave A TAGNET post noted that 
there were two fatalities in Ellison’s Cave.  Here is the link to an article in 
the Chattanooga Times Free Press. 
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/feb/12/2-found-dead-walker-cave/ Geary  


[Texascavers] Ellison's accident

2011-02-13 Thread Mixon Bill
If the 125-foot figure in one of those articles is correct, that would  
be Warm Up Pit, not 510-foot Fantastic Pit. Good thing for the  
recovery crew, if true. I don't recall any waterfall in Warm Up Pit,  
but it may depend on the weather. -- Mixon


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RE: [Texascavers] Ellison's accident

2011-02-13 Thread Linda Palit
I've done Fantastic Pit a few times, and it is a beautiful pit. 
One of the times we did it, we did not have enough rope and had a knot about
7m off the floor.  I repelled too far on to the knot before attaching gear
to go over, and fought the thing for what seemed like forever, hanging so
close to the ground that I kept thinking I should just body repel down.  Of
course, the rack would still be on the knot so it was a stupid thought, and
I did not really consider doing that. Gear and perseverance helped me out of
the jam -- and not for the first time.  Crossing knots has never been one of
my favorites.  

I am, of course, saddened to hear of the accident and deaths.  I have
wondered if we were always just  -- careful or lucky?  Both, I think. 

Linda

  

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Subject: [Texascavers] Ellison's accident

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Warm Up Pit, not 510-foot Fantastic Pit. Good thing for the recovery crew,
if true. I don't recall any waterfall in Warm Up Pit, but it may depend on
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[Texascavers] underground fiction quiz

2011-02-13 Thread Mixon Bill
While looking for something in 1979 issues of the Windy City  
Speleonews, which I edited exactly 100 issues of from 1965 through  
1980, I ran into a couple of more or less cave-related things I wrote  
back then that might be interesting. The first is this quiz.


Match the following underground things with the authors of the fiction  
in which they appeared. Answers in a day or so.  Don't broadcast your  
answers and spoil it for others.--Mixon


1. an airship
2. albino penguins
3. a ballhog
4. a balrog
5. the giants and titans
6. a metal library
7. Morlocks
8. Tatou
9. the White Rabbit

a. Victor Appleton
b. Norbert Casteret
c. Erich von Daniken
d. Dante Alighieri
e. C. L. Dodgson
f. Harvard Lampoon
g. H. P. Lovecraft
h. J. R. R. Tolkien
i. H. G. Wells

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[Texascavers] Bretz's flood

2011-02-13 Thread Mixon Bill
The cave connection of this second item from the Windy City  
Speleonews is just J Harlen Bretz. Yes, no period after the J, which  
was his full name. I had lunch with him when he was 94 at his house,  
Boulderstrewn, in Homewood, Illinois. I happened to drive by, on the  
way to the NSS convention in Bellingham, Washington, a few years ago,  
the Dry Falls three miles wide, where the state of Washington has a  
picnic area and displays. One non-technical source on the falls is http://www.gonorthwest.com/Washington/northeast/Dry_Falls.htm 
, although links onward from that page are broken. -- Mixon


 Cavers know J Harlen Bretz mainly as the author of Caves of  
Missouri and coauthor of Caves of Illinois, which was published  
when he was 78 years old. To speleologists, he is best known for his  
famous 1942 Journal of Geology paper on vadose and phreatic features  
of caves. But his geological studies were by no means restricted to  
caves, and he is probably best known for (and is most proud of) of  
series of papers published between 1923 and 1932 in which he described  
the very peculiar geology of a large area in eastern Washington that  
he correctly attributed to a catastrophic flood. This theory was  
considered outrageous at the time, partly, at least, because it was a  
departure from the only recently ascendent geological dogma of  
uniformitarianism. But more recent research has fully proved him right.


A lake, called Lake Missoula, was created in western Montana by a dam  
of glacier ice in northern Idaho. The lake contained some four hundred  
cubic miles of water that were released suddenly when melting caused  
the dam to fail. The resulting flood, called the Spokane Flood after  
the city presently near the upstream end, scoured nearly three  
thousand square miles down to bedrock and created huge canyons and  
cataracts, one three miles wide. It deposited gravel bars, some of  
which contain boulders several feet in diameter, a hundred feet high  
and a mile long, topped with giant current ripple-marks ten feet high.  
The water ponded behind the Wallula Gap, through which it poured a  
thousand feet deep. The peak flow from Lake Missoula, attested to by  
current ripples fifty feet high, has been calculated at twenty million  
cubic meters per second. (This is fifteen _cubic miles_ per hour. For  
comparison purposes, it is one hundred fifty times the mean flow of  
the Amazon River and ten or twenty times the total average flow of  
fresh water into the oceans of the world.) In a few days, it was all  
over.


(Actually, there were a good number of such floods, as the ice dam  
reestablished itself. Note added 2011.)


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