[Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread JerryAtkin
 
DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a 
large  puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck. 
The couple say they barely escaped with their lives. 
Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a 
campground  when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it. 
But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into 
the  cab. 
McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to  
grab the family dog and swim for safety. 
By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof. 
“We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said  
Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped  
under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then 
his  head to break through.” 
McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure. 
“I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
gasping  for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said. 
The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house. 
RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape. 
The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again 
looked  like a puddle. 
There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the  
water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
from  the truck. 
“You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened 
there,”  McKnight said. 
“The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front 
of  you.’ ” 
A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from 
Lake  Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole. 
The Canadian Press 
_http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manito
ba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives_ 
(http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-sw
im-for-their-lives)

Re: [Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread John Brooks
Another reason to drive a ToyotaFord Rangers sink.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2011, at 3:19 AM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:

 DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a large 
 puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck.
 
 The couple say they barely escaped with their lives.
 
 Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a campground 
 when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it.
 
 But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into the 
 cab.
 
 McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to 
 grab the family dog and swim for safety.
 
 By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof.
 
 “We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said 
 Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped 
 under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then his 
 head to break through.”
 
 McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure.
 
 “I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
 gasping for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said.
 
 The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house.
 
 RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape.
 
 The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again looked 
 like a puddle.
 
 There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the 
 water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
 from the truck.
 
 “You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened there,” 
 McKnight said.
 
 “The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front of 
 you.’ ”
 
 A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from Lake 
 Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole.
 
 The Canadian Press
 
 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives


[Texascavers] rigging simulation software

2011-05-12 Thread Mixon Bill
Fofo called my attention to this on another e-mail list. Looks like  
fun, except that they want $245 for it (at a special price).  
Somebody could make an app like this for smart phones and pads and  
sell it for $2. -- Mixon

http://vrigger.com/info.asp

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2011-05-12 Thread dlocklear01
I saw this on the side of the road south of Houston:

1987 K-5 Chevy Blazer

Solid axle / leaf-springs front  back.

Approximately 2 body lift.  4 suspension lift 

Aluminum 15 rims, with 35 tires but room for bigger.

$ 2,500 Or Best Offer.

Needs new tires, shocks, etc.

Silverado grey with dents  some rust underneath.

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[SWR] Fw: More Breaking News

2011-05-12 Thread jennifer




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Alex,

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US Forest Service Northern Region seeks public input on cave restrictions by 
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2011-05-12 Thread jennifer




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Re: [Texascavers] OT Bad Times Virus

2011-05-12 Thread Don Cooper
Bad Times chased a bunch of school children with my snow blower!

;-)


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.comwrote:

 My favorite was the Onion headline:

 Virus Named Do Not Click This Attachment You Idiot! Spreads Like
 Wildfire.

 On May 11, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

  My favorite virus warning was a parody on virus warnings.  Google Bad
 Times Virus for a chuckle.

 LowGun





[Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread JerryAtkin
 
DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a 
large  puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck. 
The couple say they barely escaped with their lives. 
Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a 
campground  when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it. 
But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into 
the  cab. 
McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to  
grab the family dog and swim for safety. 
By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof. 
“We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said  
Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped  
under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then 
his  head to break through.” 
McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure. 
“I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
gasping  for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said. 
The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house. 
RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape. 
The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again 
looked  like a puddle. 
There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the  
water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
from  the truck. 
“You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened 
there,”  McKnight said. 
“The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front 
of  you.’ ” 
A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from 
Lake  Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole. 
The Canadian Press 
_http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manito
ba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives_ 
(http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-sw
im-for-their-lives)

Re: [Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread John Brooks
Another reason to drive a ToyotaFord Rangers sink.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2011, at 3:19 AM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:

 DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a large 
 puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck.
 
 The couple say they barely escaped with their lives.
 
 Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a campground 
 when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it.
 
 But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into the 
 cab.
 
 McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to 
 grab the family dog and swim for safety.
 
 By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof.
 
 “We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said 
 Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped 
 under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then his 
 head to break through.”
 
 McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure.
 
 “I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
 gasping for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said.
 
 The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house.
 
 RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape.
 
 The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again looked 
 like a puddle.
 
 There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the 
 water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
 from the truck.
 
 “You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened there,” 
 McKnight said.
 
 “The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front of 
 you.’ ”
 
 A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from Lake 
 Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole.
 
 The Canadian Press
 
 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives


[Texascavers] rigging simulation software

2011-05-12 Thread Mixon Bill
Fofo called my attention to this on another e-mail list. Looks like  
fun, except that they want $245 for it (at a special price).  
Somebody could make an app like this for smart phones and pads and  
sell it for $2. -- Mixon

http://vrigger.com/info.asp

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the  
support of Paul.


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[Texascavers] 4x4 for sale

2011-05-12 Thread dlocklear01
I saw this on the side of the road south of Houston:

1987 K-5 Chevy Blazer

Solid axle / leaf-springs front  back.

Approximately 2 body lift.  4 suspension lift 

Aluminum 15 rims, with 35 tires but room for bigger.

$ 2,500 Or Best Offer.

Needs new tires, shocks, etc.

Silverado grey with dents  some rust underneath.

832-340-4355

e-mail me for a picture
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[SWR] Fw: Breaking News - Colorado BLM seeks targeted closures

2011-05-12 Thread jennifer




- Forwarded Message 
From: Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org
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we...@zianet.com; 
Cheryl Jones cs.jo...@verizon.net; Claude Koch claudek...@earthlink.net; Jo 
Schaper joscha...@socket.net; Mike Warner m...@speleobooks.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:49:15 AM
Subject: Breaking News - Colorado BLM seeks targeted closures

Alex,

Please post under Breaking News:  Colorado BLM Seeks Public Input on Target 
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Re: [Texascavers] OT Bad Times Virus

2011-05-12 Thread Don Cooper
Bad Times chased a bunch of school children with my snow blower!

;-)


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.comwrote:

 My favorite was the Onion headline:

 Virus Named Do Not Click This Attachment You Idiot! Spreads Like
 Wildfire.

 On May 11, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

  My favorite virus warning was a parody on virus warnings.  Google Bad
 Times Virus for a chuckle.

 LowGun





[Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread JerryAtkin
 
DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a 
large  puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck. 
The couple say they barely escaped with their lives. 
Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a 
campground  when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it. 
But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into 
the  cab. 
McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to  
grab the family dog and swim for safety. 
By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof. 
“We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said  
Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped  
under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then 
his  head to break through.” 
McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure. 
“I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
gasping  for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said. 
The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house. 
RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape. 
The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again 
looked  like a puddle. 
There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the  
water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
from  the truck. 
“You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened 
there,”  McKnight said. 
“The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front 
of  you.’ ” 
A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from 
Lake  Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole. 
The Canadian Press 
_http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manito
ba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives_ 
(http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-sw
im-for-their-lives)

Re: [Texascavers] Be cautious of driving into submerged sinkholes :

2011-05-12 Thread John Brooks
Another reason to drive a ToyotaFord Rangers sink.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2011, at 3:19 AM, jerryat...@aol.com wrote:

 DAUPHIN, MANITOBA—A Manitoba couple got the scare of their lives when a large 
 puddle that concealed a sinkhole swallowed their Ford Ranger, completely 
 submerging the truck.
 
 The couple say they barely escaped with their lives.
 
 Jim McKnight and his wife, Dawn Sealey, said they were headed to a campground 
 when they saw the giant puddle and decided to cross through it.
 
 But within seconds the vehicle was sucked down and water was rushing into the 
 cab.
 
 McKnight yelled at his wife to roll down her window, which allowed her to 
 grab the family dog and swim for safety.
 
 By that point, the water was over the truck’s roof.
 
 “We were completely under water before we had a chance to get out,” said 
 Sealey. “It happened so fast. My husband had to swim out and he got trapped 
 under ice. He had to swim under the ice and he was banging his hand, then his 
 head to break through.”
 
 McKnight said he thought he was a goner for sure.
 
 “I know I came pretty close to that. I got stuck under the ice and I don’t 
 know how, or where I managed to break the ice but I know I was totally 
 gasping for air. I had no breath whatsoever,” McKnight said.
 
 The couple made it out without injury, and walked about a quarter of a mile 
 for refuge with strangers in a house.
 
 RCMP are investigating and a spokeswoman who confirmed the account said the 
 couple was very lucky to escape.
 
 The couple took a local constable to the scene, where the puddle again looked 
 like a puddle.
 
 There was no sign of a truck in the hole, although debris floating on the 
 water included a bag of dog food, marshmallows, shampoo and other supplies 
 from the truck.
 
 “You couldn’t see the truck but you could tell something had happened there,” 
 McKnight said.
 
 “The officer was asking me, ‘Where’s the truck?’ I said, ‘Right in front of 
 you.’ ”
 
 A tow truck company tried to get the truck out Tuesday but ice jams from Lake 
 Dauphin have blocked the road and covered the hole.
 
 The Canadian Press
 
 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/989216--sinkhole-swallows-manitoba-couple-s-truck-as-they-swim-for-their-lives


[Texascavers] rigging simulation software

2011-05-12 Thread Mixon Bill
Fofo called my attention to this on another e-mail list. Looks like  
fun, except that they want $245 for it (at a special price).  
Somebody could make an app like this for smart phones and pads and  
sell it for $2. -- Mixon

http://vrigger.com/info.asp

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the  
support of Paul.


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[Texascavers] 4x4 for sale

2011-05-12 Thread dlocklear01
I saw this on the side of the road south of Houston:

1987 K-5 Chevy Blazer

Solid axle / leaf-springs front  back.

Approximately 2 body lift.  4 suspension lift 

Aluminum 15 rims, with 35 tires but room for bigger.

$ 2,500 Or Best Offer.

Needs new tires, shocks, etc.

Silverado grey with dents  some rust underneath.

832-340-4355

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[SWR] Fw: More Breaking News

2011-05-12 Thread jennifer




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From: Peter Youngbaer wnsliai...@caves.org
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NSS Board of Governors b...@caves.org; Val Hildreth-Werker 
we...@zianet.com; 
Cheryl Jones cs.jo...@verizon.net; Claude Koch claudek...@earthlink.net; Jo 
Schaper joscha...@socket.net; Mike Warner m...@speleobooks.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 1:37:18 PM
Subject: More Breaking News

Alex,

Please post the following Breaking News:

US Forest Service Northern Region seeks public input on cave restrictions by 
May 
28

The press release is attached.

Peter


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2011-05-12 Thread jennifer




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we...@zianet.com; 
Cheryl Jones cs.jo...@verizon.net; Claude Koch claudek...@earthlink.net; Jo 
Schaper joscha...@socket.net; Mike Warner m...@speleobooks.com
Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:49:15 AM
Subject: Breaking News - Colorado BLM seeks targeted closures

Alex,

Please post under Breaking News:  Colorado BLM Seeks Public Input on Target 
Closures.  Here's the link:

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Re: [Texascavers] OT Bad Times Virus

2011-05-12 Thread Don Cooper
Bad Times chased a bunch of school children with my snow blower!

;-)


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Chris Vreeland cvreel...@austin.rr.comwrote:

 My favorite was the Onion headline:

 Virus Named Do Not Click This Attachment You Idiot! Spreads Like
 Wildfire.

 On May 11, 2011, at 8:56 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

  My favorite virus warning was a parody on virus warnings.  Google Bad
 Times Virus for a chuckle.

 LowGun