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Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth

The Italian groups do.
CNSAS
http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/
http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg

Bob

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> How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own
> rescue vehicle ?
>
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Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth

The Italian groups do.
CNSAS
http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/
http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg

Bob

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM, David  wrote:

> How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own
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Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Bob Booth

The Italian groups do.
CNSAS
http://www.soccorsospeleo.it/?area%20stampa+news+intervento-di-soccorso-grotta-dei-guardiani-27-28-marzo-20112
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolopo/4799424019/
http://www.sicurezzaesoccorso.com/nuovi_aggiornamenti/16-06-10/CNSAS%20Umbria%201.jpg

Bob

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:10 PM, David  wrote:

> How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own
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RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them.

And they're not afraid to use them...

When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave 
Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to 
get him. They'd had it delivered that morning, it was as yet unregistered and 
it had about 10miles on the clock :-)

--Stefan

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Subject: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

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RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them.

And they're not afraid to use them...

When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave 
Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to 
get him. They'd had it delivered that morning, it was as yet unregistered and 
it had about 10miles on the clock :-)

--Stefan

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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:11 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

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rescue vehicle ?

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RE: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Most of the ones in the UK do; the picture shows one of them.

And they're not afraid to use them...

When I was at university and a guy in our club fell down a pitch the Cave 
Rescue guys literally bounced their *brand new* Land Rover across the moors to 
get him. They'd had it delivered that morning, it was as yet unregistered and 
it had about 10miles on the clock :-)

--Stefan

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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:11 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related

How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own
rescue vehicle ?

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[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David

How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own
rescue vehicle ?

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[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David

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rescue vehicle ?

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[Texascavers] caving vehicle related

2011-09-01 Thread David

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Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper

I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do.  Any of them can 
be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew.  I think the sauce should be 
cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls.  Jocie
 Stefan Creaser  wrote: 
> Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at 
> cooking stuff...
> 
> 
> Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the 
> main course, ie. meat, dishes.
> 
> As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes 
> with those as a base are needed. I googled "Caribbean beef" and came up with 
> these, can y'all let me know what you think? We will definitely be bbq-ing 
> and perhaps grilling some too, but we need something like these for the less 
> well defined cuts of meat.
> 
> Beef:
> 
> As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
> http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast
> 
> 
> Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
> http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/
> 
> 
> Or regular stew:
> http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm
> 
> 
> Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the 
> above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...
> 
> Lemme know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stefan
> 
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Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper

I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do.  Any of them can 
be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew.  I think the sauce should be 
cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls.  Jocie
 Stefan Creaser  wrote: 
> Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at 
> cooking stuff...
> 
> 
> Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the 
> main course, ie. meat, dishes.
> 
> As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes 
> with those as a base are needed. I googled "Caribbean beef" and came up with 
> these, can y'all let me know what you think? We will definitely be bbq-ing 
> and perhaps grilling some too, but we need something like these for the less 
> well defined cuts of meat.
> 
> Beef:
> 
> As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
> http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast
> 
> 
> Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
> http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/
> 
> 
> Or regular stew:
> http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm
> 
> 
> Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the 
> above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...
> 
> Lemme know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stefan
> 
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Re: FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread jociehooper

I liked the regular stew recipe best, but the others would do.  Any of them can 
be cooked in a huge pot just as regular stew.  I think the sauce should be 
cooked until thick enough to have it put on rice...so, no need for bowls.  Jocie
 Stefan Creaser  wrote: 
> Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at 
> cooking stuff...
> 
> 
> Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the 
> main course, ie. meat, dishes.
> 
> As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes 
> with those as a base are needed. I googled "Caribbean beef" and came up with 
> these, can y'all let me know what you think? We will definitely be bbq-ing 
> and perhaps grilling some too, but we need something like these for the less 
> well defined cuts of meat.
> 
> Beef:
> 
> As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
> http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast
> 
> 
> Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
> http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/
> 
> 
> Or regular stew:
> http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm
> 
> 
> Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the 
> above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...
> 
> Lemme know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stefan
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley

Fritz,
   I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive...

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Fritz Holt" 
To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" 
; "'Mandy Holt'" ; 
"'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" 
; ; "'Debra Batts'" 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton 
Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did 
travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted 
premises. The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, 
not highly decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway 
to the right and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch 
or more long that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the 
floor, apparently broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily 
navigated but I'm sure there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel 
or caliche road to the cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when 
my 53 ford tudor bottomed out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was 
dribbling out. I found a corn cob (unused) beside the road and was able to 
drive it into the rupture and stop the leak until I could get back to 
civilization to have it repaired. We were a long way from a gas station.

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups 
into Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and 
Ralph Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the 
extended cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". 
Carl Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth 
group to cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is 
when they crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the 
most beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can 
read our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver 
under "Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic 
memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary
of the discovery.

 - Pete

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Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley

Fritz,
   I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive...

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Fritz Holt" 
To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" 
; "'Mandy Holt'" ; 
"'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" 
; ; "'Debra Batts'" 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton 
Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did 
travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted 
premises. The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, 
not highly decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway 
to the right and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch 
or more long that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the 
floor, apparently broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily 
navigated but I'm sure there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel 
or caliche road to the cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when 
my 53 ford tudor bottomed out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was 
dribbling out. I found a corn cob (unused) beside the road and was able to 
drive it into the rupture and stop the leak until I could get back to 
civilization to have it repaired. We were a long way from a gas station.

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups 
into Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and 
Ralph Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the 
extended cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". 
Carl Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth 
group to cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is 
when they crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the 
most beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can 
read our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver 
under "Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic 
memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary
of the discovery.

 - Pete

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Re: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Bill Bentley

Fritz,
   I was on that ledge in Sonora Caverns a few years back .. impressive...

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Fritz Holt" 
To: "'Pete Lindsley'" ; "Cavetex" 
; "'Mandy Holt'" ; 
"'Jenny Holt'" ; "'Steve Ashmore'" 
; ; "'Debra Batts'" 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton 
Cave which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did 
travel quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted 
premises. The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, 
not highly decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway 
to the right and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch 
or more long that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the 
floor, apparently broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily 
navigated but I'm sure there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel 
or caliche road to the cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when 
my 53 ford tudor bottomed out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was 
dribbling out. I found a corn cob (unused) beside the road and was able to 
drive it into the rupture and stop the leak until I could get back to 
civilization to have it repaired. We were a long way from a gas station.

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups 
into Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and 
Ralph Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the 
extended cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". 
Carl Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth 
group to cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is 
when they crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the 
most beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can 
read our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver 
under "Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic 
memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary
of the discovery.

 - Pete

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[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper

Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws.
The agenda should change.
We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should
be made reasonable and clear.

We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks.

-WaV!

[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper

Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws.
The agenda should change.
We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should
be made reasonable and clear.

We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks.

-WaV!

[ot_caving] Seven Hundred New Laws.

2011-09-01 Thread Don Cooper

Lawmakers are doing what we pay them for - coming up with new laws.
The agenda should change.
We need to get rid of most laws, and evaluate how the remaining one's should
be made reasonable and clear.

We need more laws like we need more politicians and banks.

-WaV!

RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave 
which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel 
quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted premises. 
The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, not highly 
decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway to the right 
and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch or more long 
that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the floor, apparently 
broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily navigated but I'm sure 
there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel or caliche road to the 
cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when my 53 ford tudor bottomed 
out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was dribbling out. I found a corn 
cob (unused) beside the road and was able to drive it into the rupture and stop 
the leak until I could get back to civilization to have it repaired. We were a 
long way from a gas station. 

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups into 
Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and Ralph 
Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the extended 
cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". Carl 
Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth group to 
cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is when they 
crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the most 
beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can read 
our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver under 
"Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
 
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.

  - Pete

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RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave 
which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel 
quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted premises. 
The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, not highly 
decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway to the right 
and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch or more long 
that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the floor, apparently 
broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily navigated but I'm sure 
there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel or caliche road to the 
cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when my 53 ford tudor bottomed 
out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was dribbling out. I found a corn 
cob (unused) beside the road and was able to drive it into the rupture and stop 
the leak until I could get back to civilization to have it repaired. We were a 
long way from a gas station. 

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups into 
Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and Ralph 
Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the extended 
cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". Carl 
Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth group to 
cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is when they 
crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the most 
beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can read 
our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver under 
"Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
 
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.

  - Pete

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RE: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt

In the spring of 1956 while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso, three army 
buddies and I drove to Capitan, NM and obtained directions to Ft. Stanton Cave 
which was close by. We missed seeing Smokey and Snowy River but did travel 
quite far into the cave. We were the only ones on the unrestricted premises. 
The cave was impressive for its size but if I remember correctly, not highly 
decorated. A good distance into the cave, I took a low crawlway to the right 
and was amazed by the millions of brown opaque crystals an inch or more long 
that were on the roughly 24 inch ceiling and all over the floor, apparently 
broken off by previous crawlers. The cave was easily navigated but I'm sure 
there was a lot more cave than we saw. On the gravel or caliche road to the 
cave I hit a cattle guard a little too fast and when my 53 ford tudor bottomed 
out it knocked a hole in the gas tank and gas was dribbling out. I found a corn 
cob (unused) beside the road and was able to drive it into the rupture and stop 
the leak until I could get back to civilization to have it repaired. We were a 
long way from a gas station. 

Two or three months earlier I was fortunate to be among the first groups into 
Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora) with Jimmy Walker, Bob Hudson and Ralph 
Derby. Jimmy and I always thought we were the first group in after the extended 
cave discovery by the Dallas group after they crossed "The Ledge". Carl 
Kunath's research indicates we may have only been the third to sixth group to 
cross the ledge. Jimmy had sent the Dallas cavers there and this is when they 
crossed "The Ledge" in September,1955 and discovered perhaps the most 
beautifully decorated cave in the United States. Our visit was between 
December, 1955 and February, 1956. This was my most exciting spelunking 
adventure which I will never forget. Good friends, fantastic cave. A large 
picture taken by Jimmy Walker of me admiring a very long soda straw while on 
this trip hangs in the visitors office of The Caverns of Sonora. You can read 
our story of this trip in the large ICS edition of The Texas Caver under 
"Carbide Corner". I have probably bored you enough with my nostalgic memories.

Fritz Holt

-Original Message-
From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:caverp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:47 PM
To: Cavetex
Subject: [Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.

Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news
 
]

So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.

  - Pete

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[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.


Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news 
]


So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.


 - Pete

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[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.


Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news 
]


So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.


 - Pete

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[Texascavers] Snowy River Cave discovery celebrates 10th year!

2011-09-01 Thread Pete Lindsley

Just about 10 years ago to the hour some cavers dug into Snowy River,  
after many years of digging in various places in Fort Stanton Cave.  
Numerous Texas cavers have visited and surveyed (and dug) in the cave  
since the late 1950's when Tom Gould and his friends explored. Jack C.  
Burch was also very interested in the commercial prospects of the  
cave; fortunately Jack decided to commercialize Mayfield Cave instead.


Read about it here:
[http://ruidosofreepress.com/view/full_story/15181298/article-Snowy-River-Cave-discovery-celebrates-10th-year?instance=main_news 
]


So today in Lincoln County it was declared to be the 10th anniversary  
of the discovery.


 - Pete

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FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at
cooking stuff...

Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main
course, ie. meat, dishes.

As noted, we will have access to pork and beef in large quantities so recipes
with those as a base are needed. I googled "Caribbean beef" and came up with
these, can y'all let me know what you think? We will definitely be bbq-ing and
perhaps grilling some too, but we need something like these for the less well
defined cuts of meat.

Beef:

As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast

Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/

Or regular stew:
http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm

Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the
above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...

Lemme know.

Cheers,
Stefan

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FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at
cooking stuff...

Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main
course, ie. meat, dishes.

Beef:

As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast

Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/

Or regular stew:
http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm

Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the
above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...

Lemme know.

Cheers,
Stefan

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FW: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-09-01 Thread Stefan Creaser

Sorry y'all, I was away for the (long) w/e and didn't get a chance to look at
cooking stuff...

Was talking to Terry at the Grotto mtg where he was prodding me about the main
course, ie. meat, dishes.

Beef:

As Vico has a pressure cooker, perhaps:
http://www.fagoramerica.com/my_fagor/recipe_library/pressure_cooker/meat_poultry/caribbean_beef_roast

Crock pot recipes (I think between Vico and i we have 5 or 6 crock pots):
http://mangomissives.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/caribbean-beef-stew/

Or regular stew:
http://latinfood.about.com/od/maindishes/r/beefstew.htm

Jamaican beef patties sound good (various recipes out there if you google the
above), but one'd have to bake in advance and warm up on site...

Lemme know.

Cheers,
Stefan

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