[Texascavers] a new video
Here is a diving video posted a few days ago, of a trip from about 4 years ago. The cave scene is from 3:06 to 4:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nE6tVKk-Ew Not a great video, but descent.The music is better than most YouTube videos. I don't have a clue about anything diving related.It looks like they intended to go cavern-diving and remain in the twilight zone area, but it looks like they ventured in deep enough, that a single tank would have been kind of risky. >From 6:37 to 7:35 they clearly meant to go cave-diving. They got double tanks on in that footage. But it is not well lit. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a new video
Here is a diving video posted a few days ago, of a trip from about 4 years ago. The cave scene is from 3:06 to 4:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nE6tVKk-Ew Not a great video, but descent.The music is better than most YouTube videos. I don't have a clue about anything diving related.It looks like they intended to go cavern-diving and remain in the twilight zone area, but it looks like they ventured in deep enough, that a single tank would have been kind of risky. >From 6:37 to 7:35 they clearly meant to go cave-diving. They got double tanks on in that footage. But it is not well lit. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a new video
Here is a diving video posted a few days ago, of a trip from about 4 years ago. The cave scene is from 3:06 to 4:26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nE6tVKk-Ew Not a great video, but descent.The music is better than most YouTube videos. I don't have a clue about anything diving related.It looks like they intended to go cavern-diving and remain in the twilight zone area, but it looks like they ventured in deep enough, that a single tank would have been kind of risky. >From 6:37 to 7:35 they clearly meant to go cave-diving. They got double tanks on in that footage. But it is not well lit. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info
David, Thanks for pointing out the Karst Information Portal (www.karstportal.org) but there is really special about the link you provided. The Portal has a search function so you can enter "Texas," "Sonora," "Mexico," or whatever keyword you want in order to find what publications in the Portal are available on the subject. The Karst Information Portal is an incredible resource. Dozens of new publications are being added every week. TSA is having The Texas Caver added to the Portal. Some issues have already been posted and many will soon be posted after final careful editing of the digital content (not editing of the published material). George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 21:09 To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1 &SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info
David, Thanks for pointing out the Karst Information Portal (www.karstportal.org) but there is really special about the link you provided. The Portal has a search function so you can enter "Texas," "Sonora," "Mexico," or whatever keyword you want in order to find what publications in the Portal are available on the subject. The Karst Information Portal is an incredible resource. Dozens of new publications are being added every week. TSA is having The Texas Caver added to the Portal. Some issues have already been posted and many will soon be posted after final careful editing of the digital content (not editing of the published material). George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 21:09 To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1 &SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info
David, Thanks for pointing out the Karst Information Portal (www.karstportal.org) but there is really special about the link you provided. The Portal has a search function so you can enter "Texas," "Sonora," "Mexico," or whatever keyword you want in order to find what publications in the Portal are available on the subject. The Karst Information Portal is an incredible resource. Dozens of new publications are being added every week. TSA is having The Texas Caver added to the Portal. Some issues have already been posted and many will soon be posted after final careful editing of the digital content (not editing of the published material). George *** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 413-383-2276 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 21:09 To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Texas cave related info The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1 &SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting - Wed September 7
Howdy Caver, You are cordially invited to attend the UT Grotto meeting on Wednesday September 7, 2011 from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M on the University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Victoria Siegel and Bill Stone will present - Cave Hunting in Siberia >From July 12 to August 10, a Russian-American team conducted a reconnaissance trip the Altai Republic of Russia, on the border with Mongolia, to search for high elevation Alpine karst and caves. The project was organized by the Novosibirsk "Diggers" caving team. They traveled to the village of Aktash in the central valley leading to Mongolia and then headed east over the tundra and up into the mountains in 6-wheel drive personnel carriers. A final two days of approach march on foot got them to the 2,200m elevation limestone plateau that was the target of the project. Basecamp was set in a Siberian pine forest overlooking the Sugary River. The talk will discuss what it was like getting to central Russia in the post-Cold War era, what it was like working with Russian cavers, and will present some of the amazing scenery and strange and different ways of the Altai people. Come spend some time with Austin Texas Cavers and visit with friends of the extended caver community. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org vickie_sie...@yahoo.com bill.st...@stoneaerospace.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting - Wed September 7
Howdy Caver, You are cordially invited to attend the UT Grotto meeting on Wednesday September 7, 2011 from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M on the University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Victoria Siegel and Bill Stone will present - Cave Hunting in Siberia >From July 12 to August 10, a Russian-American team conducted a reconnaissance trip the Altai Republic of Russia, on the border with Mongolia, to search for high elevation Alpine karst and caves. The project was organized by the Novosibirsk "Diggers" caving team. They traveled to the village of Aktash in the central valley leading to Mongolia and then headed east over the tundra and up into the mountains in 6-wheel drive personnel carriers. A final two days of approach march on foot got them to the 2,200m elevation limestone plateau that was the target of the project. Basecamp was set in a Siberian pine forest overlooking the Sugary River. The talk will discuss what it was like getting to central Russia in the post-Cold War era, what it was like working with Russian cavers, and will present some of the amazing scenery and strange and different ways of the Altai people. Come spend some time with Austin Texas Cavers and visit with friends of the extended caver community. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org vickie_sie...@yahoo.com bill.st...@stoneaerospace.com
[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting - Wed September 7
Howdy Caver, You are cordially invited to attend the UT Grotto meeting on Wednesday September 7, 2011 from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M on the University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html Victoria Siegel and Bill Stone will present - Cave Hunting in Siberia >From July 12 to August 10, a Russian-American team conducted a reconnaissance trip the Altai Republic of Russia, on the border with Mongolia, to search for high elevation Alpine karst and caves. The project was organized by the Novosibirsk "Diggers" caving team. They traveled to the village of Aktash in the central valley leading to Mongolia and then headed east over the tundra and up into the mountains in 6-wheel drive personnel carriers. A final two days of approach march on foot got them to the 2,200m elevation limestone plateau that was the target of the project. Basecamp was set in a Siberian pine forest overlooking the Sugary River. The talk will discuss what it was like getting to central Russia in the post-Cold War era, what it was like working with Russian cavers, and will present some of the amazing scenery and strange and different ways of the Altai people. Come spend some time with Austin Texas Cavers and visit with friends of the extended caver community. For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Officer contact, trip reports, event calendar, and new caver training links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available. Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com The UT Grotto needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact me. Sincerely, Gary Franklin UT Grotto Vice Chair & Program Organizer 512-585-6057 v...@utgrotto.org vickie_sie...@yahoo.com bill.st...@stoneaerospace.com
[Texascavers] Texas cave related info
The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1&SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Texas cave related info
The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1&SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Texas cave related info
The link below will direct you to 259 articles that have something about a cave in Texas in them. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=AdvancedSearch&Q=Y&FK=Texas&RP=5&SD=1&SR=0 Disclaimer: I haven't logged into the site and actually looked at the articles.I will let someone else explain how that all works. Just click on the arrows ( below the box "Refine Search" ), to scroll thru the list of articles. For example, the link below shows an article published just a few days ago, I think. http://www.karstportal.org/index.php?P=FullRecord&ID=10969 David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 -0000 Issue 1379
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 - Issue 1379 Topics (messages 18460 through 18466): earth science related 18460 by: David YouTube related 18461 by: David video of push trip 18462 by: David Re: new Texas law 18463 by: Chris Vreeland 18464 by: Bill Bentley fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere 18465 by: Gill Edigar a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related 18466 by: Nigel Dyson-Hudson Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- There is a proposed project in the works for a museum-like theme park in Texas: http://www.earthquestinstitute.org/ The location is about 20 miles northeast of Houston. I doubt it will ever get built, but it sounds like a promising project, and one that maybe a caver could find a place to fit in at. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Does your grotto have a YouTube Video ? Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bNfqWKvAg That is from 2 years ago. That was all I could find on my initial search, but I was only checking English sites, meaning there could be a better example in another language. So UCET has set the bar for what such a video should entail. Another interesting video I stumbled onto is below: Skip to 5:13 if you don't want to watch the caver swim thru the sumps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkkHh9OEz0&NR=1 I don't ever plan to take up cave-diving, but I would like to learn how to negotiate an 11 meter long sump, someday.Swildon's Pot looks like a really fun cave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swildon's_Hole David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Below is a very interesting video of some hard-core cavers determined to push a lead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZz1OAC4V0g Note this was posted 8 months ago, so there may be some news since then about this lead. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social Media," per se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online? The NSS forums seem pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any Texans posting there. I was a member of the UT Grotto (I think?) Facebook Group for a while, but quit it after a while when I got sick of the notifications. None of them seemed particularly caving-related, either. So. Serious question. What am I missing that's Texas Caving- specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT Grotto Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really where all the action is. Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus. On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a bit like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you’ve never bought anything off of there. Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get bombarded with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles and miscellaneous (supposed) caving events to attend ;-) --Stefan --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Chris, The campfire on cave trips?, which is currently substituted for a lantern since 99% of Texas is under a burn ban. I use and get mail from all the mailing lists that I can sign up for, I also provide a mailing list for the USA and all of the individual states as well as several specific caving areas. ... I also use facebook... I created a group page there for our grotto and let it run for a while and when I went back to it for something, I discovered that since I left it wide open for membership it has several spam messages on it, I deleted them and the offending members and now it is a closed group. rarely does anyone use it for any PBSS related communicating. I am signed up for the NSS Cave Chat and NSS forums but I tended to lose interest after a while. I found it kind of cumbersome to navigate and the folks that I wanted to chat with or knew were not on there and wouldn't sign up fro what ever reason. Locklear is always trying out new social media places and is always trying to get everyone to switch over, I won't do that because I find that until it catches on like facebook has done, you will be alone with a few others and not most of the cavers you really needed to chat or link up with. All in all our grotto uses the PBSS mailing list as a primary means of communicating. Others are just individual emails. There are pros and cons to all of them. I say use all you can tolerate and stick with them, sure there is no cave related drivel that goes on, usually it don't last long bec
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 -0000 Issue 1379
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 - Issue 1379 Topics (messages 18460 through 18466): earth science related 18460 by: David YouTube related 18461 by: David video of push trip 18462 by: David Re: new Texas law 18463 by: Chris Vreeland 18464 by: Bill Bentley fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere 18465 by: Gill Edigar a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related 18466 by: Nigel Dyson-Hudson Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- There is a proposed project in the works for a museum-like theme park in Texas: http://www.earthquestinstitute.org/ The location is about 20 miles northeast of Houston. I doubt it will ever get built, but it sounds like a promising project, and one that maybe a caver could find a place to fit in at. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Does your grotto have a YouTube Video ? Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bNfqWKvAg That is from 2 years ago. That was all I could find on my initial search, but I was only checking English sites, meaning there could be a better example in another language. So UCET has set the bar for what such a video should entail. Another interesting video I stumbled onto is below: Skip to 5:13 if you don't want to watch the caver swim thru the sumps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkkHh9OEz0&NR=1 I don't ever plan to take up cave-diving, but I would like to learn how to negotiate an 11 meter long sump, someday.Swildon's Pot looks like a really fun cave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swildon's_Hole David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Below is a very interesting video of some hard-core cavers determined to push a lead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZz1OAC4V0g Note this was posted 8 months ago, so there may be some news since then about this lead. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social Media," per se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online? The NSS forums seem pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any Texans posting there. I was a member of the UT Grotto (I think?) Facebook Group for a while, but quit it after a while when I got sick of the notifications. None of them seemed particularly caving-related, either. So. Serious question. What am I missing that's Texas Caving- specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT Grotto Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really where all the action is. Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus. On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a bit like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you’ve never bought anything off of there. Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get bombarded with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles and miscellaneous (supposed) caving events to attend ;-) --Stefan --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Chris, The campfire on cave trips?, which is currently substituted for a lantern since 99% of Texas is under a burn ban. I use and get mail from all the mailing lists that I can sign up for, I also provide a mailing list for the USA and all of the individual states as well as several specific caving areas. ... I also use facebook... I created a group page there for our grotto and let it run for a while and when I went back to it for something, I discovered that since I left it wide open for membership it has several spam messages on it, I deleted them and the offending members and now it is a closed group. rarely does anyone use it for any PBSS related communicating. I am signed up for the NSS Cave Chat and NSS forums but I tended to lose interest after a while. I found it kind of cumbersome to navigate and the folks that I wanted to chat with or knew were not on there and wouldn't sign up fro what ever reason. Locklear is always trying out new social media places and is always trying to get everyone to switch over, I won't do that because I find that until it catches on like facebook has done, you will be alone with a few others and not most of the cavers you really needed to chat or link up with. All in all our grotto uses the PBSS mailing list as a primary means of communicating. Others are just individual emails. There are pros and cons to all of them. I say use all you can tolerate and stick with them, sure there is no cave related drivel that goes on, usually it don't last long bec
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 -0000 Issue 1379
texascavers Digest 6 Sep 2011 00:56:14 - Issue 1379 Topics (messages 18460 through 18466): earth science related 18460 by: David YouTube related 18461 by: David video of push trip 18462 by: David Re: new Texas law 18463 by: Chris Vreeland 18464 by: Bill Bentley fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere 18465 by: Gill Edigar a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related 18466 by: Nigel Dyson-Hudson Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- There is a proposed project in the works for a museum-like theme park in Texas: http://www.earthquestinstitute.org/ The location is about 20 miles northeast of Houston. I doubt it will ever get built, but it sounds like a promising project, and one that maybe a caver could find a place to fit in at. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Does your grotto have a YouTube Video ? Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1bNfqWKvAg That is from 2 years ago. That was all I could find on my initial search, but I was only checking English sites, meaning there could be a better example in another language. So UCET has set the bar for what such a video should entail. Another interesting video I stumbled onto is below: Skip to 5:13 if you don't want to watch the caver swim thru the sumps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkkHh9OEz0&NR=1 I don't ever plan to take up cave-diving, but I would like to learn how to negotiate an 11 meter long sump, someday.Swildon's Pot looks like a really fun cave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swildon's_Hole David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Below is a very interesting video of some hard-core cavers determined to push a lead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZz1OAC4V0g Note this was posted 8 months ago, so there may be some news since then about this lead. David Locklear --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I'm somewhat Facebook-averse, thought I'm not opposed to "Social Media," per se. Is there another "place" where cavers gather online? The NSS forums seem pretty slow most of the time, and I never see any Texans posting there. I was a member of the UT Grotto (I think?) Facebook Group for a while, but quit it after a while when I got sick of the notifications. None of them seemed particularly caving-related, either. So. Serious question. What am I missing that's Texas Caving- specific on line besides this here listserve and the UT Grotto Facebook group? I might re-join the Facebook group if that's really where all the action is. Chris, Entrance Caver's Grotto Charter Member Emeritus. On Sep 1, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: A social network is a place you can ‘hang out’ with your friends, a bit like someone’s virtual campfire, and be bombarded by advertising keyed off what you type into the system. The sole reason they exist is to sell you stuff, even if you’ve never bought anything off of there. Ie. it’s a bit of an advancement on CaveTex where all you get bombarded with is advertisements for LED lights, off-road vehicles and miscellaneous (supposed) caving events to attend ;-) --Stefan --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Chris, The campfire on cave trips?, which is currently substituted for a lantern since 99% of Texas is under a burn ban. I use and get mail from all the mailing lists that I can sign up for, I also provide a mailing list for the USA and all of the individual states as well as several specific caving areas. ... I also use facebook... I created a group page there for our grotto and let it run for a while and when I went back to it for something, I discovered that since I left it wide open for membership it has several spam messages on it, I deleted them and the offending members and now it is a closed group. rarely does anyone use it for any PBSS related communicating. I am signed up for the NSS Cave Chat and NSS forums but I tended to lose interest after a while. I found it kind of cumbersome to navigate and the folks that I wanted to chat with or knew were not on there and wouldn't sign up fro what ever reason. Locklear is always trying out new social media places and is always trying to get everyone to switch over, I won't do that because I find that until it catches on like facebook has done, you will be alone with a few others and not most of the cavers you really needed to chat or link up with. All in all our grotto uses the PBSS mailing list as a primary means of communicating. Others are just individual emails. There are pros and cons to all of them. I say use all you can tolerate and stick with them, sure there is no cave related drivel that goes on, usually it don't last long bec
[Texascavers] a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related
Dave, You forgot to mention that this is a real 4x4 - it has a snorkel, the air intake is above the roof line. I wonder if there is a snorkel for the driver? Or would they have a cave diver driving it through the really deep water? The only other time I have seen a 4x4 with a snorkel was around 2002 in Syracuse NY near LeMoyne College and it had Venezuela plates on it. Now if you really wanted to stir the pot, just suggest that NCRC and the various NCRC regions put in for vehicle grants. grin, duck, RUN! Nigel > How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue > vehicle ? > > http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg > > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For > additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related
Dave, You forgot to mention that this is a real 4x4 - it has a snorkel, the air intake is above the roof line. I wonder if there is a snorkel for the driver? Or would they have a cave diver driving it through the really deep water? The only other time I have seen a 4x4 with a snorkel was around 2002 in Syracuse NY near LeMoyne College and it had Venezuela plates on it. Now if you really wanted to stir the pot, just suggest that NCRC and the various NCRC regions put in for vehicle grants. grin, duck, RUN! Nigel > How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue > vehicle ? > > http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg > > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For > additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a real 4x4 with a snorkel Re: [Texascavers] caving vehicle related
Dave, You forgot to mention that this is a real 4x4 - it has a snorkel, the air intake is above the roof line. I wonder if there is a snorkel for the driver? Or would they have a cave diver driving it through the really deep water? The only other time I have seen a 4x4 with a snorkel was around 2002 in Syracuse NY near LeMoyne College and it had Venezuela plates on it. Now if you really wanted to stir the pot, just suggest that NCRC and the various NCRC regions put in for vehicle grants. grin, duck, RUN! Nigel > How many cave rescue teams do you know that have their own rescue > vehicle ? > > http://cavingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/cro3.jpg > > > - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For > additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere
ATTENTION CAVERS in the Austin area. I just got a text message from Jim Strickland requesting cavers to help fight fires now approaching Flat Creek Ranch. The ranch is located just east of Pedernales Falls State Park. There should be a gathering place at Ranch Headquarters just inside the entry gate. Bring shovels, rakes, hoes, chainsaws & fuel, gloves, and water for drinking. Please pass the word and show up if you can. If you are in Wimberley area Ernie and Terry and Don and Andy and others might need help, as well, getting brush cut away from the houses and buildings. Give Terry a call at 512-466-4319. Ernie is out of town. All of Hays County is like a bucket of gasoline. --Ediger
[Texascavers] fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere
ATTENTION CAVERS in the Austin area. I just got a text message from Jim Strickland requesting cavers to help fight fires now approaching Flat Creek Ranch. The ranch is located just east of Pedernales Falls State Park. There should be a gathering place at Ranch Headquarters just inside the entry gate. Bring shovels, rakes, hoes, chainsaws & fuel, gloves, and water for drinking. Please pass the word and show up if you can. If you are in Wimberley area Ernie and Terry and Don and Andy and others might need help, as well, getting brush cut away from the houses and buildings. Give Terry a call at 512-466-4319. Ernie is out of town. All of Hays County is like a bucket of gasoline. --Ediger
[Texascavers] fires at Flat Creek, elsewhere
ATTENTION CAVERS in the Austin area. I just got a text message from Jim Strickland requesting cavers to help fight fires now approaching Flat Creek Ranch. The ranch is located just east of Pedernales Falls State Park. There should be a gathering place at Ranch Headquarters just inside the entry gate. Bring shovels, rakes, hoes, chainsaws & fuel, gloves, and water for drinking. Please pass the word and show up if you can. If you are in Wimberley area Ernie and Terry and Don and Andy and others might need help, as well, getting brush cut away from the houses and buildings. Give Terry a call at 512-466-4319. Ernie is out of town. All of Hays County is like a bucket of gasoline. --Ediger
