Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Matthew Zappitello
Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
  Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
  And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.
 
  Andy
 
  --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
  From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
  Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
  To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
 
 





 I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3
 more at home :-)


 From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier






 Matt, I also have these.
 

 
 Andy
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





 Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
 

 
 I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style
 containers with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
 

 
 Andy Z
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


 Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some
 other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier
 with a knife.





 --Matt


 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
 

 
 Andy Z


 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




 
 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
 andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


 Wot do they look like?


 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
 
 To: Andy Zenker
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Matt,



 I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



 Andy Z












 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




 You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt
 they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron
 skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter
 on top and
  cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and
 voila, heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet,
 which is why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we
 can get other people to help, I'd be happy
  to convey all the instructions.
 

 
 --Matt


 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 wrote:




 Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my
 BBQ? Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need
 something else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we
 have 200 cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 Cheers,



 Stefan







 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
 
 To: Stefan Creaser
 
 Cc:
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...










 This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served
 with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any
 cake carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to
 carry
  all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch
 diameters.  My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total
 of 56 people with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving
 size and whatnot.
 

 
 The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4):



 1 1/4 

Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Terri Sprouse
I have a 10 one you can use.

I can send it to Zara on Monday.

Terri




From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com; Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier


Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt


On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.

 Andy

 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM







I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 
more at home :-)
  

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

  




Matt, I also have these.



Andy



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.



I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.



Andy Z



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some 
other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with 
a knife.


 


--Matt


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo



Andy Z





--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:





From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


Wot do they look like?
 

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM

To: Andy Zenker

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

 
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Matt,



I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



Andy Z




 








From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt 
they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron 
skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter 
on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is 
why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.



--Matt


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.



 



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.



 



Do you have an approximate cost per cake?



 



Cheers,



Stefan



 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM

To: Stefan Creaser

Cc:
tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...






 



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Denise P

I think so with the extra pan of coconut bars that Jocie is making. I have a 
cast iron skillet as well. Will need to see if it's the right kind. I have not 
been paying close attention to the criteria. I will need to borrow three 13X9 
metal pans. Who has some? -Denise
 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:46:32 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com; andyzen...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM,  jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
 tall so I have 4 carriers total.



 Andy



 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:



 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com


 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM















I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-)

  



From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



  









Matt, I also have these.







Andy







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:





From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM











Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.







I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.







Andy Z







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:





From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM





Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife.





 





--Matt





On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo







Andy Z











--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:











From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM





Wot do they look like?

 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM



To: Andy Zenker



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



 

Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Matt,







I have a cake carrier I can loan out.







Andy Z









 















From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...









You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and


 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy


 to convey all the instructions.







--Matt





On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:









Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 







I think we'd want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 







Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 







Cheers,







Stefan







 







From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]





Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM



To: Stefan Creaser



Cc:

tcrco...@texascavers.com




[Texascavers] Re: Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread David
I am going to try here to post something about Lyle Moss.



I am certain there are lots of cavers out there who knew him much
better than I did,
but he was someone I deeply admired, so I want to say what I can.

Lyle leaves behind 35 Facebook friends. Some are cavers:  Among
them were Andy Belski,
Bob Montgomery, Emily McGowan of Houston, Cyndi Mosch, Evan Anderson,
Peter Jones, Rockin Robby of Colorado, Steve Beckley, Kenneth Newton,
Evan Gehring, and probably others.

He had lots of caving friends in the Colorado Western Slope Grotto, and even
attended their meetings while he was still in Houston, Texas.


Also, former Houston caver, whose name I am not posting ( currently deployed
on a mission in Afghanistan ).This caver was anxious to join Lyle's big dig
when he got back to Colorado.

My fuzzy recollection is Lyle started attending the Houston Grotto meetings in
around 1997 or so.For about 3 years, he attended about 6 meetings a year.
It was always exciting to see him. He was a cheerful person with a
likable charm,
so he had a way to make a good impression on people.

He immediately started inviting people to a secret dig on his property
in Glenwood
Springs Colorado. The cave was a crawlway only about 150 feet, but he had
hand-built mostly by himself an elaborate rail system and a mining car
to haul out
the dig debris.  Lyle subtly implied that his idea of caving was
to crawl to the end of a passage
and load it with dynamite and then wait for the big boom. I don't
think very many
Houston cavers took him up on his generous offers.  Part of the
deal was that he
would pilot his own plane out of Houston to Glenwood Springs, just for
the opportunity
to haul blast debris out of the passage.

I am not sure when, but Lyle left Houston, and most of us didn't find
out until years
later.

I tried to stay in touch with him via Facebook, but he was a busy
doctor, pilot, husband,
grandpa, etc, and we never got to know each other, partly because I
was not active in
the Houston Grotto during those years. Meaning, he probably had
not idea how much
I respected him.

He sent me a message in December of 2009 that he was moving to
Colorado, and he and his wife
were going to have to raise their grand-daughter, who I presume was a
toddler or young
kid.

I sent him an invite last year to NaturFest and he replied that he
lived in cave country now, which I hope
means he was too busy caving to come leave Kentucky.

Below is a caving photo of Lyle that you can purchase:

 http://www.speleobooks.com/art/A03/12.html

I believe the link below is to his wife's Facebook page:

 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396891386

I think the article below mentions that Lyle found some virgin passage
in Lechuguilla Cave, but I have not
read it yet.

 http://www.japaneserain.com/users/learn/news/second_50_miles.htm

The point here is that caving was an important aspect to Lyle's life.

In 1999, Lyle posted the following LED flashlight review on a forum:

  I am really pleased with my Action Light. I used it for my
primary light source in
  Lechuguilla for an eight day trip to the Far East section
and it worked extremely
  well. I ran it on high almost the entire time and used up
about 2 1/2 lithium D's.
  I added a ceiling burner electric spot for only about 30
minutes the whole week for
  distance lighting, and only brought in 6, not 32, alkaline C
cells with a great savings
  in weight. The more diffuse lighting is pleasant to the eyes
like carbide of old, but much
  brighter, and the Action Light brings out the blue spectrum
in a way not seen with
  filament lamps. Familiar formations were seen in a whole new
light, bringing out their
  natural beauty for the first time.

There are several references to him in the Rocky Mountain Caving
Newsletter in the early
90's.And his name appears in several links for the following web-site:

 http://whatafinecave.com/Index/home.html

There is a nice picture of him on rope on page 235 of the NSS News August, 1999

I will let other cavers tell more about him.

In summary, Lyle was a respectable person, and an experienced caver.

David Locklear


Ref:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1174880382

http://www.karstportal.org/FileStorage/NSS_news/1999-v057-008.pdf

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Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-02 Thread Terry Holsinger

Aimee, I would suggest we do without Tofu as it just ends up in the trash.

Instead try this Caribbean Vegetarian dish:

Colombo de Giraumon (Spicy pumpkin/ Pumpkin Curry)

Ingredients

1 onion, finely sliced
1 garlic clove, crushed
2 tsp curry powder
3 cloves, crushed
½ red chile, finely chopped
1 lbs west indian pumpkin, Calabaza Squash, cut in 1 cubes
2 tomatoes, chopped
1 tbsp sultanas
¼ tsp sugar, optional
1 lemon, juiced
2 tbsp oil
salt and pepper

Directions Edit

First, heat the oil in a heavy pan and then add the onion.

Sauté until it is transparent and then add the garlic and cook that also.

Next put in the curry powder, ground cloves, the chopped tomatoes, 
sultanas and sugar.


Sprinkle the lemon juice over.

Cover, and cook very gently for 30 – 40 minutes or until pumpkin is 
tender, stirring frequently to ensure that it does not catch.


Season and serve to accompany main dishes and rice.


Terry H.

On 9/29/2011 9:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:



What we need are some cupcakes.   I'll see if I can get a few helpers together 
to make some of those.  Yes, we will use store bought 99 cent cake mix.  How 
many do we need?


Also, Stephan, I looked into making a vegetarian goat curry.  My mouth waters 
at the idea of a real goat curry but I just don't think it will work with tofu. 
 I can do a tofu stirfry with veggies in a curry sauce but not Jamaican goat 
curry style.  How about I bring some curry to the grotto meeting next wed?


Oh, will we be serving rice? Curry without rice is just wrong.


A





From: Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com
To: Matt Zappitellomrzap...@gmail.com
Cc: Jocelyn Hooperjociehoo...@austin.rr.com; Stefan 
Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
ready made. Ideas?

-Denise




Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives us 
64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets.  So, 
if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to make 
sure they have the skillets.


2011/9/29 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com

I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
person to make more cakes?


-Denise



Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500



From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
To: mrzap...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com



CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...




My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9 baking pan.  I thought I would make at 
least 5 pans.  How many can you do Denise?  Matt might have to make only 5 Upside 
Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up.  Jocie
 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com  wrote:


4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make some 
more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.

-Denise




Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: stefan.crea...@arm.com
CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake?  I can probably 
make 2 or 4 if you want.  What details do you need from me concerning the 
recipe?

--Matt


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com  wrote:




That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that high.

Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after processing?



From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
To: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; Heather Tucek; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




The best deal I can get is through my dad we can get fifty lbs of wild catfish 
he caught personally for $2lb plus whatever shipping costs. He is gonna price 
the shipping next week and get back to me with a quote. Does this sound good 
stefan and terry?

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Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Matthew Zappitello
Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
  Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
  And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.
 
  Andy
 
  --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
  From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
  Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
  To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
 
 





 I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3
 more at home :-)


 From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier






 Matt, I also have these.
 

 
 Andy
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





 Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
 

 
 I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style
 containers with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
 

 
 Andy Z
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


 Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some
 other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier
 with a knife.





 --Matt


 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
 

 
 Andy Z


 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




 
 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
 andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


 Wot do they look like?


 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
 
 To: Andy Zenker
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Matt,



 I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



 Andy Z












 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




 You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt
 they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron
 skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter
 on top and
  cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and
 voila, heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet,
 which is why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we
 can get other people to help, I'd be happy
  to convey all the instructions.
 

 
 --Matt


 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 wrote:




 Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my
 BBQ? Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need
 something else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we
 have 200 cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 Cheers,



 Stefan







 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
 
 To: Stefan Creaser
 
 Cc:
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...










 This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served
 with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any
 cake carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to
 carry
  all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch
 diameters.  My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total
 of 56 people with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving
 size and whatnot.
 

 
 The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4):



 1 1/4 

Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Terri Sprouse
I have a 10 one you can use.

I can send it to Zara on Monday.

Terri




From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com; Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier


Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt


On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.

 Andy

 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM







I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 
more at home :-)
  

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

  




Matt, I also have these.



Andy



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.



I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.



Andy Z



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some 
other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with 
a knife.


 


--Matt


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo



Andy Z





--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:





From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


Wot do they look like?
 

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM

To: Andy Zenker

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

 
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Matt,



I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



Andy Z




 








From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt 
they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron 
skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter 
on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is 
why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.



--Matt


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.



 



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.



 



Do you have an approximate cost per cake?



 



Cheers,



Stefan



 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM

To: Stefan Creaser

Cc:
tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...






 



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Denise P

I think so with the extra pan of coconut bars that Jocie is making. I have a 
cast iron skillet as well. Will need to see if it's the right kind. I have not 
been paying close attention to the criteria. I will need to borrow three 13X9 
metal pans. Who has some? -Denise
 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:46:32 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com; andyzen...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM,  jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
 tall so I have 4 carriers total.



 Andy



 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:



 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com


 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM















I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-)

  



From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



  









Matt, I also have these.







Andy







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:





From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM











Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.







I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.







Andy Z







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:





From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM





Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife.





 





--Matt





On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo







Andy Z











--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:











From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM





Wot do they look like?

 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM



To: Andy Zenker



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



 

Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Matt,







I have a cake carrier I can loan out.







Andy Z









 















From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...









You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and


 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy


 to convey all the instructions.







--Matt





On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:









Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 







I think we'd want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 







Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 







Cheers,







Stefan







 







From: Matthew Zappitello 

[Texascavers] Fwd: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread Louise Hose
Not sure if the news has hit the caving community yet. Sad news.

Louise Hose
713-816-5259
Sent from my mobile phone

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 From: Phil Perry philper...@gmail.com
 Date: October 1, 2011 9:12:06 AM CDT
 To: ea...@googlegroups.com ea...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss
 Reply-To: ea...@googlegroups.com
 

 Hi Everyone,
 
 Some of you might recall Lyle Moss as a former member of chapter 12.  He was 
 a local doctor who relocated to Kentucky a little over a year ago.  He flew a 
 GlassAir.
 
 He was lost in an accident yesterday.
 
 http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Pilot-dies-in-crash-woman-narrowly-escapes-death-130895563.html
 
 http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2011309300067
 
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[SWR] Fwd: Loss of Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread Carol Belski

Lech cavers are now missing a great guy.



Begin forwarded message:


From: Louise Hose h...@drkarst.net
Date: October 2, 2011 8:44:38 AM MDT
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss

Not sure if the news has hit the caving community yet. Sad news.

Louise Hose
713-816-5259
Sent from my mobile phone

Begin forwarded message:


From: Phil Perry philper...@gmail.com
Date: October 1, 2011 9:12:06 AM CDT
To: ea...@googlegroups.com ea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss
Reply-To: ea...@googlegroups.com

Hi Everyone,

Some of you might recall Lyle Moss as a former member of chapter  
12.  He was a local doctor who relocated to Kentucky a little over  
a year ago.  He flew a GlassAir.


He was lost in an accident yesterday.

http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Pilot-dies-in-crash-woman- 
narrowly-escapes-death-130895563.html


http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2011309300067

Fly safely,
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RE: [Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art

2011-10-02 Thread Louise Power

Interesting video, David, but increasing the resolution to 720 won't sharpen 
the image. In fact, generally when you increase the resolution of a picture 
made at a lesser resolution, say 360, all you do is increase the size of each 
pixel which, in most cases, will blur the image.

 From: dlocklea...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:56:19 -0500
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art
 
 This slideshow was uploaded 2 days ago:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2leQssOQfeature=player_embedded
 
 Click on the resolution at 720p and then click on full screen, at the bottom
 right corner of the video.
 
 This presentation is one that could be shown at a grotto meeting.
 
 David Locklear
 
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[Texascavers] Re: Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread David
I am going to try here to post something about Lyle Moss.



I am certain there are lots of cavers out there who knew him much
better than I did,
but he was someone I deeply admired, so I want to say what I can.

Lyle leaves behind 35 Facebook friends. Some are cavers:  Among
them were Andy Belski,
Bob Montgomery, Emily McGowan of Houston, Cyndi Mosch, Evan Anderson,
Peter Jones, Rockin Robby of Colorado, Steve Beckley, Kenneth Newton,
Evan Gehring, and probably others.

He had lots of caving friends in the Colorado Western Slope Grotto, and even
attended their meetings while he was still in Houston, Texas.


Also, former Houston caver, whose name I am not posting ( currently deployed
on a mission in Afghanistan ).This caver was anxious to join Lyle's big dig
when he got back to Colorado.

My fuzzy recollection is Lyle started attending the Houston Grotto meetings in
around 1997 or so.For about 3 years, he attended about 6 meetings a year.
It was always exciting to see him. He was a cheerful person with a
likable charm,
so he had a way to make a good impression on people.

He immediately started inviting people to a secret dig on his property
in Glenwood
Springs Colorado. The cave was a crawlway only about 150 feet, but he had
hand-built mostly by himself an elaborate rail system and a mining car
to haul out
the dig debris.  Lyle subtly implied that his idea of caving was
to crawl to the end of a passage
and load it with dynamite and then wait for the big boom. I don't
think very many
Houston cavers took him up on his generous offers.  Part of the
deal was that he
would pilot his own plane out of Houston to Glenwood Springs, just for
the opportunity
to haul blast debris out of the passage.

I am not sure when, but Lyle left Houston, and most of us didn't find
out until years
later.

I tried to stay in touch with him via Facebook, but he was a busy
doctor, pilot, husband,
grandpa, etc, and we never got to know each other, partly because I
was not active in
the Houston Grotto during those years. Meaning, he probably had
not idea how much
I respected him.

He sent me a message in December of 2009 that he was moving to
Colorado, and he and his wife
were going to have to raise their grand-daughter, who I presume was a
toddler or young
kid.

I sent him an invite last year to NaturFest and he replied that he
lived in cave country now, which I hope
means he was too busy caving to come leave Kentucky.

Below is a caving photo of Lyle that you can purchase:

 http://www.speleobooks.com/art/A03/12.html

I believe the link below is to his wife's Facebook page:

 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396891386

I think the article below mentions that Lyle found some virgin passage
in Lechuguilla Cave, but I have not
read it yet.

 http://www.japaneserain.com/users/learn/news/second_50_miles.htm

The point here is that caving was an important aspect to Lyle's life.

In 1999, Lyle posted the following LED flashlight review on a forum:

  I am really pleased with my Action Light. I used it for my
primary light source in
  Lechuguilla for an eight day trip to the Far East section
and it worked extremely
  well. I ran it on high almost the entire time and used up
about 2 1/2 lithium D's.
  I added a ceiling burner electric spot for only about 30
minutes the whole week for
  distance lighting, and only brought in 6, not 32, alkaline C
cells with a great savings
  in weight. The more diffuse lighting is pleasant to the eyes
like carbide of old, but much
  brighter, and the Action Light brings out the blue spectrum
in a way not seen with
  filament lamps. Familiar formations were seen in a whole new
light, bringing out their
  natural beauty for the first time.

There are several references to him in the Rocky Mountain Caving
Newsletter in the early
90's.And his name appears in several links for the following web-site:

 http://whatafinecave.com/Index/home.html

There is a nice picture of him on rope on page 235 of the NSS News August, 1999

I will let other cavers tell more about him.

In summary, Lyle was a respectable person, and an experienced caver.

David Locklear


Ref:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1174880382

http://www.karstportal.org/FileStorage/NSS_news/1999-v057-008.pdf

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Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-02 Thread Terry Holsinger

Aimee, I would suggest we do without Tofu as it just ends up in the trash.

Instead try this Caribbean Vegetarian dish:

Colombo de Giraumon (Spicy pumpkin/ Pumpkin Curry)

Ingredients

1 onion, finely sliced
1 garlic clove, crushed
2 tsp curry powder
3 cloves, crushed
½ red chile, finely chopped
1 lbs west indian pumpkin, Calabaza Squash, cut in 1 cubes
2 tomatoes, chopped
1 tbsp sultanas
¼ tsp sugar, optional
1 lemon, juiced
2 tbsp oil
salt and pepper

Directions Edit

First, heat the oil in a heavy pan and then add the onion.

Sauté until it is transparent and then add the garlic and cook that also.

Next put in the curry powder, ground cloves, the chopped tomatoes, 
sultanas and sugar.


Sprinkle the lemon juice over.

Cover, and cook very gently for 30 – 40 minutes or until pumpkin is 
tender, stirring frequently to ensure that it does not catch.


Season and serve to accompany main dishes and rice.


Terry H.

On 9/29/2011 9:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:



What we need are some cupcakes.   I'll see if I can get a few helpers together 
to make some of those.  Yes, we will use store bought 99 cent cake mix.  How 
many do we need?


Also, Stephan, I looked into making a vegetarian goat curry.  My mouth waters 
at the idea of a real goat curry but I just don't think it will work with tofu. 
 I can do a tofu stirfry with veggies in a curry sauce but not Jamaican goat 
curry style.  How about I bring some curry to the grotto meeting next wed?


Oh, will we be serving rice? Curry without rice is just wrong.


A





From: Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com
To: Matt Zappitellomrzap...@gmail.com
Cc: Jocelyn Hooperjociehoo...@austin.rr.com; Stefan 
Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
ready made. Ideas?

-Denise




Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives us 
64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets.  So, 
if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to make 
sure they have the skillets.


2011/9/29 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com

I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
person to make more cakes?


-Denise



Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500



From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
To: mrzap...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com



CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...




My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9 baking pan.  I thought I would make at 
least 5 pans.  How many can you do Denise?  Matt might have to make only 5 Upside 
Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up.  Jocie
 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com  wrote:


4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make some 
more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.

-Denise




Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: stefan.crea...@arm.com
CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake?  I can probably 
make 2 or 4 if you want.  What details do you need from me concerning the 
recipe?

--Matt


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com  wrote:




That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that high.

Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after processing?



From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
To: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; Heather Tucek; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




The best deal I can get is through my dad we can get fifty lbs of wild catfish 
he caught personally for $2lb plus whatever shipping costs. He is gonna price 
the shipping next week and get back to me with a quote. Does this sound good 
stefan and terry?

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

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From: galenfalg...@yahoo.comgalenfalg...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2011 7:35 pm
Subject: [tcrcooks] Menu...
To: Stefan Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com, Heather Tucektrog...@cavechat.org, 
tcrco...@texascavers.comtcrco...@texascavers.com
Also shrimp is in season. What do u guys think about having boiled shrimp
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Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Matthew Zappitello
Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie
  Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
  And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.
 
  Andy
 
  --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
 
  From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
  Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
  To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM
 
 





 I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3
 more at home :-)


 From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier






 Matt, I also have these.
 

 
 Andy
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 
 To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





 Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.
 

 
 I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style
 containers with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.
 

 
 Andy Z
 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


 Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some
 other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier
 with a knife.





 --Matt


 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo
 

 
 Andy Z


 

 
 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




 
 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...
 
 To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
 andyzen...@yahoo.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


 Wot do they look like?


 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM
 
 To: Andy Zenker
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


 Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




 Matt,



 I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



 Andy Z












 From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
 
 To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 
 Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




 You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt
 they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron
 skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter
 on top and
  cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and
 voila, heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet,
 which is why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we
 can get other people to help, I'd be happy
  to convey all the instructions.
 

 
 --Matt


 On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 wrote:




 Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my
 BBQ? Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need
 something else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we
 have 200 cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 Cheers,



 Stefan







 From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]

 
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM
 
 To: Stefan Creaser
 
 Cc:
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 
 Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...










 This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served
 with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any
 cake carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to
 carry
  all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch
 diameters.  My guess is that you could serve 16 people per cake for a total
 of 56 people with the 4 cakes, but you might be a better judge of serving
 size and whatnot.
 

 
 The recipe calls for the following (per cake, so multiply by 4):



 1 1/4 

Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Terri Sprouse
I have a 10 one you can use.

I can send it to Zara on Monday.

Terri




From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com; Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier


Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt


On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 
 inches tall so I have 4 carriers total.

 Andy

 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:

 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com
 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier
 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com
 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM







I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 
more at home :-)
  

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

  




Matt, I also have these.



Andy



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM





Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.



I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.



Andy Z



--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM


Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some 
other serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with 
a knife.


 


--Matt


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo



Andy Z





--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:





From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...

To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM


Wot do they look like?
 

From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM

To: Andy Zenker

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

 
Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:




Matt,



I have a cake carrier I can loan out.



Andy Z




 








From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com

To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt 
they'd turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron 
skillet.  I caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter 
on top and
 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is 
why I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy
 to convey all the instructions.



--Matt


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:




Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.



 



I think we’d want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.



 



Do you have an approximate cost per cake?



 



Cheers,



Stefan



 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]


Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:11 PM

To: Stefan Creaser

Cc:
tcrco...@texascavers.com

Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...






 



This cake can be served at ambient temperature.  Nothing needs to be served 
with it.  I could really use a way to transport them.  If anyone has any cake 
carriers, that would be perfect.  I've got one, but I'll need 3 more to carry
 all four cakes.  The cakes are going to be circular with 12 inch diameters.  

RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

2011-10-02 Thread Denise P

I think so with the extra pan of coconut bars that Jocie is making. I have a 
cast iron skillet as well. Will need to see if it's the right kind. I have not 
been paying close attention to the criteria. I will need to borrow three 13X9 
metal pans. Who has some? -Denise
 Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 07:46:32 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
CC: tcrco...@texascavers.com; andyzen...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

Does anyone else have another 10 to 12 cast iron skillet?  I've convinced 
Crystal to make 2 more cakes for us.  So, that gives us 6 cakes.  Is that 
enough?

--Matt

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM,  jociehoo...@austin.rr.com wrote:

I have a couple of carriers.  Jocie

 Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And I just checked again and found another cake carrier that's about 3 inches 
 tall so I have 4 carriers total.



 Andy



 --- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:



 From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com

 Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier

 To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com, tcrco...@texascavers.com 
 tcrco...@texascavers.com


 Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 6:17 PM















I have been scavenging those from work; got 3 today, I think I have 2 or 3 more 
at home :-)

  



From: Andy Zenker [mailto:andyzen...@yahoo.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:09 PM



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



  









Matt, I also have these.







Andy







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:





From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] dessert carrier



To: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:39 PM











Agreed.  Carriers are for moving the food, not as a cutting/serving boards.







I just remembered that I may have some other large party tray style containers 
with lids.  I'll check this evening and send a picture.







Andy Z







--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com wrote:





From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:46 AM





Mine is similar.  I would not serve the cake in these.  I would have some other 
serving dish, since I wouldn't want anyone to gouge my cake carrier with a 
knife.





 





--Matt





On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Mine is similar to the one in the attached photo







Andy Z











--- On Wed, 9/28/11, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:











From: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



To: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com, Andy Zenker 
andyzen...@yahoo.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:03 AM





Wot do they look like?

 



From: Matthew Zappitello [mailto:mrzap...@gmail.com]





Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:36 AM



To: Andy Zenker



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...



 

Awesome!  Thanks.  That makes two with mine.  Two more, anyone?



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com wrote:









Matt,







I have a cake carrier I can loan out.







Andy Z









 















From: Matthew Zappitello mrzap...@gmail.com



To: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com



Cc: tcrco...@texascavers.com tcrco...@texascavers.com



Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:38 PM



Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...









You might try to cook them in those large rectangular trays, but I doubt they'd 
turn out as well.  The way I cook them is in a 12 inch cast iron skillet.  I 
caramelize the sugar and pineapple to start, then put the batter on top and


 cook it directly in the pan.  Then, you flip it out onto a plate and voila, 
heaven on a plate!!!  Jocie already lent me her cast iron skillet, which is why 
I have 2.  I wouldn't want to make 8 cakes myself, but if we can get other 
people to help, I'd be happy


 to convey all the instructions.







--Matt





On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:









Could these be cooked in the large rectangular metal trays I use for my BBQ? 
Being rectangular may make them easy to cut, serve and transport.







 







I think we'd want at least twice that amount, and would still need something 
else to get the numbers for dessert up to close to 400. ATM we have 200 
cookies/bars from Jocie/Denise.







 







Do you have an approximate cost per cake?







 







Cheers,







Stefan







 







From: Matthew Zappitello 

[Texascavers] Fwd: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread Louise Hose
Not sure if the news has hit the caving community yet. Sad news.

Louise Hose
713-816-5259
Sent from my mobile phone

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Phil Perry philper...@gmail.com
 Date: October 1, 2011 9:12:06 AM CDT
 To: ea...@googlegroups.com ea...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss
 Reply-To: ea...@googlegroups.com
 

 Hi Everyone,
 
 Some of you might recall Lyle Moss as a former member of chapter 12.  He was 
 a local doctor who relocated to Kentucky a little over a year ago.  He flew a 
 GlassAir.
 
 He was lost in an accident yesterday.
 
 http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Pilot-dies-in-crash-woman-narrowly-escapes-death-130895563.html
 
 http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2011309300067
 
 Fly safely,
 Phil
 
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[SWR] Fwd: Loss of Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread Carol Belski

Lech cavers are now missing a great guy.



Begin forwarded message:


From: Louise Hose h...@drkarst.net
Date: October 2, 2011 8:44:38 AM MDT
Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss

Not sure if the news has hit the caving community yet. Sad news.

Louise Hose
713-816-5259
Sent from my mobile phone

Begin forwarded message:


From: Phil Perry philper...@gmail.com
Date: October 1, 2011 9:12:06 AM CDT
To: ea...@googlegroups.com ea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [EAA12_Members] Loss of Lyle Moss
Reply-To: ea...@googlegroups.com

Hi Everyone,

Some of you might recall Lyle Moss as a former member of chapter  
12.  He was a local doctor who relocated to Kentucky a little over  
a year ago.  He flew a GlassAir.


He was lost in an accident yesterday.

http://www.whas11.com/news/local/Pilot-dies-in-crash-woman- 
narrowly-escapes-death-130895563.html


http://www.courier-journal.com/article/2011309300067

Fly safely,
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RE: [Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art

2011-10-02 Thread Louise Power

Interesting video, David, but increasing the resolution to 720 won't sharpen 
the image. In fact, generally when you increase the resolution of a picture 
made at a lesser resolution, say 360, all you do is increase the size of each 
pixel which, in most cases, will blur the image.

 From: dlocklea...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:56:19 -0500
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: [Texascavers] a new slideshow about prehistoric cave art
 
 This slideshow was uploaded 2 days ago:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7c2leQssOQfeature=player_embedded
 
 Click on the resolution at 720p and then click on full screen, at the bottom
 right corner of the video.
 
 This presentation is one that could be shown at a grotto meeting.
 
 David Locklear
 
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[Texascavers] Re: Lyle Moss

2011-10-02 Thread David
I am going to try here to post something about Lyle Moss.



I am certain there are lots of cavers out there who knew him much
better than I did,
but he was someone I deeply admired, so I want to say what I can.

Lyle leaves behind 35 Facebook friends. Some are cavers:  Among
them were Andy Belski,
Bob Montgomery, Emily McGowan of Houston, Cyndi Mosch, Evan Anderson,
Peter Jones, Rockin Robby of Colorado, Steve Beckley, Kenneth Newton,
Evan Gehring, and probably others.

He had lots of caving friends in the Colorado Western Slope Grotto, and even
attended their meetings while he was still in Houston, Texas.


Also, former Houston caver, whose name I am not posting ( currently deployed
on a mission in Afghanistan ).This caver was anxious to join Lyle's big dig
when he got back to Colorado.

My fuzzy recollection is Lyle started attending the Houston Grotto meetings in
around 1997 or so.For about 3 years, he attended about 6 meetings a year.
It was always exciting to see him. He was a cheerful person with a
likable charm,
so he had a way to make a good impression on people.

He immediately started inviting people to a secret dig on his property
in Glenwood
Springs Colorado. The cave was a crawlway only about 150 feet, but he had
hand-built mostly by himself an elaborate rail system and a mining car
to haul out
the dig debris.  Lyle subtly implied that his idea of caving was
to crawl to the end of a passage
and load it with dynamite and then wait for the big boom. I don't
think very many
Houston cavers took him up on his generous offers.  Part of the
deal was that he
would pilot his own plane out of Houston to Glenwood Springs, just for
the opportunity
to haul blast debris out of the passage.

I am not sure when, but Lyle left Houston, and most of us didn't find
out until years
later.

I tried to stay in touch with him via Facebook, but he was a busy
doctor, pilot, husband,
grandpa, etc, and we never got to know each other, partly because I
was not active in
the Houston Grotto during those years. Meaning, he probably had
not idea how much
I respected him.

He sent me a message in December of 2009 that he was moving to
Colorado, and he and his wife
were going to have to raise their grand-daughter, who I presume was a
toddler or young
kid.

I sent him an invite last year to NaturFest and he replied that he
lived in cave country now, which I hope
means he was too busy caving to come leave Kentucky.

Below is a caving photo of Lyle that you can purchase:

 http://www.speleobooks.com/art/A03/12.html

I believe the link below is to his wife's Facebook page:

 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1396891386

I think the article below mentions that Lyle found some virgin passage
in Lechuguilla Cave, but I have not
read it yet.

 http://www.japaneserain.com/users/learn/news/second_50_miles.htm

The point here is that caving was an important aspect to Lyle's life.

In 1999, Lyle posted the following LED flashlight review on a forum:

  I am really pleased with my Action Light. I used it for my
primary light source in
  Lechuguilla for an eight day trip to the Far East section
and it worked extremely
  well. I ran it on high almost the entire time and used up
about 2 1/2 lithium D's.
  I added a ceiling burner electric spot for only about 30
minutes the whole week for
  distance lighting, and only brought in 6, not 32, alkaline C
cells with a great savings
  in weight. The more diffuse lighting is pleasant to the eyes
like carbide of old, but much
  brighter, and the Action Light brings out the blue spectrum
in a way not seen with
  filament lamps. Familiar formations were seen in a whole new
light, bringing out their
  natural beauty for the first time.

There are several references to him in the Rocky Mountain Caving
Newsletter in the early
90's.And his name appears in several links for the following web-site:

 http://whatafinecave.com/Index/home.html

There is a nice picture of him on rope on page 235 of the NSS News August, 1999

I will let other cavers tell more about him.

In summary, Lyle was a respectable person, and an experienced caver.

David Locklear


Ref:

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1174880382

http://www.karstportal.org/FileStorage/NSS_news/1999-v057-008.pdf

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Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

2011-10-02 Thread Terry Holsinger

Aimee, I would suggest we do without Tofu as it just ends up in the trash.

Instead try this Caribbean Vegetarian dish:

Colombo de Giraumon (Spicy pumpkin/ Pumpkin Curry)

Ingredients

1 onion, finely sliced
1 garlic clove, crushed
2 tsp curry powder
3 cloves, crushed
½ red chile, finely chopped
1 lbs west indian pumpkin, Calabaza Squash, cut in 1 cubes
2 tomatoes, chopped
1 tbsp sultanas
¼ tsp sugar, optional
1 lemon, juiced
2 tbsp oil
salt and pepper

Directions Edit

First, heat the oil in a heavy pan and then add the onion.

Sauté until it is transparent and then add the garlic and cook that also.

Next put in the curry powder, ground cloves, the chopped tomatoes, 
sultanas and sugar.


Sprinkle the lemon juice over.

Cover, and cook very gently for 30 – 40 minutes or until pumpkin is 
tender, stirring frequently to ensure that it does not catch.


Season and serve to accompany main dishes and rice.


Terry H.

On 9/29/2011 9:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge wrote:



What we need are some cupcakes.   I'll see if I can get a few helpers together 
to make some of those.  Yes, we will use store bought 99 cent cake mix.  How 
many do we need?


Also, Stephan, I looked into making a vegetarian goat curry.  My mouth waters 
at the idea of a real goat curry but I just don't think it will work with tofu. 
 I can do a tofu stirfry with veggies in a curry sauce but not Jamaican goat 
curry style.  How about I bring some curry to the grotto meeting next wed?


Oh, will we be serving rice? Curry without rice is just wrong.


A





From: Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com
To: Matt Zappitellomrzap...@gmail.com
Cc: Jocelyn Hooperjociehoo...@austin.rr.com; Stefan 
Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
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Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...



If we don't get more volunteers for dessert, we will need to buy something 
ready made. Ideas?

-Denise




Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:49:58 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: pepabe...@hotmail.com
CC: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; galenfalg...@yahoo.com; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...

I'm going to do 4 cakes, each of which could serve about 16.  So, that gives us 
64.  The cakes are going to require deep 10 to 12 inch cast iron skillets.  So, 
if we can find someone else to help make the cakes, we'll still need to make 
sure they have the skillets.


2011/9/29 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com

I can make 6. That gves us 264. With Matt's 2 cakes (shoot I forget how many 
servings each was), we will still neeed more desserts. Can someone recruit a 
person to make more cakes?


-Denise



Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:08:45 -0500



From: jociehoo...@austin.rr.com
To: mrzap...@gmail.com; stefan.crea...@arm.com; pepabe...@hotmail.com



CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [tcrcooks] Menu...




My Coconut Bars make 24 in a 13 x 9 baking pan.  I thought I would make at 
least 5 pans.  How many can you do Denise?  Matt might have to make only 5 Upside 
Down cakes - depends on how many cast iron skillets he can rustle up.  Jocie
 Denise Ppepabe...@hotmail.com  wrote:


4 cakes would be how many servings? We might need someone else to make some 
more cakes as Jocie and I were covering only half the desserts.

-Denise




Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:53:16 -0500
From: mrzap...@gmail.com
To: stefan.crea...@arm.com
CC: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...


Did you still want me to make the pineapple upsidedown cake?  I can probably 
make 2 or 4 if you want.  What details do you need from me concerning the 
recipe?

--Matt


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com  wrote:




That sounds like a good deal, as long as the shipping costs aren't that high.

Will that be 50lbs of 'meat', or how much would we expect after processing?



From: galenfalg...@yahoo.com [mailto:galenfalg...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:39 PM
To: galenfalg...@yahoo.com; Stefan Creaser; Heather Tucek; 
tcrco...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [tcrcooks] Menu...




The best deal I can get is through my dad we can get fifty lbs of wild catfish 
he caught personally for $2lb plus whatever shipping costs. He is gonna price 
the shipping next week and get back to me with a quote. Does this sound good 
stefan and terry?

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To: Stefan Creaserstefan.crea...@arm.com, Heather Tucektrog...@cavechat.org, 
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Also shrimp is in season. What do u guys think about having boiled shrimp
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