[Texascavers] thanks

2012-03-09 Thread Nancy Weaver

for all the suggestions for roof racks.  I've got enough to follow up on.


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[Texascavers] Travel in Mexico

2012-03-09 Thread Mike Walsh
As many of you are aware, I have a caver hotel in Aquismon, Mexico.  I love
Mexico and have business that I conduct in the country.  As a result, I
still travel to Mexico.  The war in Mexico has changed my travel, however,
it is not necessary to abandon the country that we love.  If you are
interested in going to Mexico, contact me and I will provide you with my
best information.  I attempt to keep up with the American drug war related
problems on a day to day basis.  Here is some basic information.

 

Take a cruise from Galveston to Cozumel.  Recently, I went with my wife
Lynda.  It was fairly inexpensive and we had a good deal of fun.

 

Fly from San Antonio on Innerjet Airline to Mexico City for under $250
dollars roundtrip.  The State Department lists the states of Mexico, Puebla,
Tlaxcala and Queretaro  as not being in their target area.

 

Take a daytime bus from the Mexico City Northern Bus Terminal directly to
Xilitila, San Luis Potosi.  The bus is a good one, it even has a bathroom
and movies.  Since the bus trip is eight hours long, you might consider
stopping at the tourist towns of San Juan del Rio- Tesquisquipan- Jalpan
along the way.  The three cities have good hotels and are fun places to
visit.

 

From Xilitla, take a bus to the Aquismon crossing. (Fifteen miles). Take a
taxi the last three miles.   Aquismon may be the safest place in Mexico to
go caving.  I can provide additional info upon request.

 

If you  want to a border town for fun or for inexpensive dental work, go to
Nuevo Progreso, Mexico.  It is safe and open for business.  Each weekend,
500-1000 Americans cross over for a good day in a safe Mexican border town.
Do not forget your American passport. The American government has issued
statements that they will not let you return to your country without a
passport.  

 

If you are going deep into Mexico and you want to largely by-pass most of
the border problems, cross at the Pharr, Texas crossing.  From the Mexican
customs it is about three miles to the Reynosa Airport.  There is a Mexican
airline that will fly you directly to Veracruz for under $200 roundtrip. Be
aware, that each year, somewhere in the world there are plane crashes.

 

I also take the bus down to Ciudad Valles and on to my place in Aquismon.
If you plan on taking a bus, contact me and I will give you my best advice.
The route may change from time to time due to the current situations.
Today, I would cross at Brownsville, Texas into Matamoros.  Walk the 500
feet to the Garcia's store and ask the parking guard to get you a taxi to
the bus station.  He will know a taxi driver that he trusts.   Take a
daytime bus from Matamoros to Ciudad Valles (Transpais is my favorite).
Aquismon is only thirty miles by bus from Ciudad Valles.

 

There are ways to take your trucks down to Aquismon, however, some times and
routes are much better than others.  Give me a call and I will assist you.

 

I understand that there are a number of cavers that will not go back into
Mexico for a number of reasons including lifestyle changes. If you choose
not to go to Mexico, that is your decision.   There are some cavers that
love Mexico and the incredible people of Mexico and want to go.  Mexico is
one of the best places in the world for caving.   Contact me and I will
assist you.  Viva Mexico. 

 

 

 Mike Walsh

mikewaus...@austin.rr.com

512-249-2283



Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread freddie poer
Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in the 
last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas and 
Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It is less 
than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't have to 
sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are a lot of 
caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are NOT hunting 
Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and have a good 
time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in the 70's and 
80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.  

--- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:


From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM


As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 BS

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Check this out:
  
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/

 

Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Diana Tomchick
Nico,

I'm sure Americans aren't being hunted per se, but I would guess that their 
4-wheel drive pickups, money and other useful goods are coveted in certain 
parts of the country where there is no one to stop people from taking these 
things from them.

People asked me if I felt unsafe when I went to China recently, and I did not. 
I have to say that there was an evening in Granada, Spain on my August vacation 
where I felt more vulnerable than I have in years, but that was because Bill 
and I foolishly wandered off late at night and got turned around in some back 
streets where it's known that young thugs target wealthy tourists. Fortunately 
we found another couple that lived in the city and helped us with our locations 
(note: get cell phone activated for next trip to Europe).

As with any travel, if you go to the wrong places you may be targeted. It's 
kind of difficult right now for gringos who don't speak a lot of Spanish to 
know where the wrong places are anymore in the rural Mexican caving areas.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote:

 Freddie,

 I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so 
 much
 finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I 
 couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which 
 is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as many 
 of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will automatically 
 turn them into victims.

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in 
 the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas and 
 Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It is 
 less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't have 
 to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are a lot 
 of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are NOT 
 hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and have 
 a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in the 70's 
 and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.

 --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:

 From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
 Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM

 As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.

 On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
  BS
 
  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Check this out:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
 
 





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RE: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Louise Power

I guess what concerned me the most was the emphasis on crime and violence along 
the border where we always used to go through and in the larger cities like 
Monterrey where we used to visit before and after trips. Like some, I'm not so 
concerned about the interior, but getting there may no longer be half the fun. 
Not concerned for myself, however, since I'm in Oregon now and not just a few 
hours away. We have our own problems here along the I-5 corridor which is a 
river of drugs. Also, we have problems in the National Forests and on BLM lands 
where the cartels have huge MJ gardens. This has been going on for years and 
doesn't seem to get better.
Louise

 From: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 To: pitboun...@gmail.com
 CC: freddiepoe...@yahoo.com; her...@cavechat.org; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:49:26 +
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 
 Nico,
 
 I'm sure Americans aren't being hunted per se, but I would guess that their 
 4-wheel drive pickups, money and other useful goods are coveted in certain 
 parts of the country where there is no one to stop people from taking these 
 things from them.
 
 People asked me if I felt unsafe when I went to China recently, and I did 
 not. I have to say that there was an evening in Granada, Spain on my August 
 vacation where I felt more vulnerable than I have in years, but that was 
 because Bill and I foolishly wandered off late at night and got turned around 
 in some back streets where it's known that young thugs target wealthy 
 tourists. Fortunately we found another couple that lived in the city and 
 helped us with our locations (note: get cell phone activated for next trip to 
 Europe).
 
 As with any travel, if you go to the wrong places you may be targeted. It's 
 kind of difficult right now for gringos who don't speak a lot of Spanish to 
 know where the wrong places are anymore in the rural Mexican caving areas.
 
 Diana
 
 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 Diana R. Tomchick
 Professor
 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
 Department of Biochemistry
 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
 Rm. ND10.214B
 Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
 Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 214-645-6383 (phone)
 214-645-6353 (fax)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote:
 
  Freddie,
 
  I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so 
  much
  finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I 
  couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which 
  is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as 
  many of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will 
  automatically turn them into victims.
 
  On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com 
  wrote:
  Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in 
  the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas 
  and Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It 
  is less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't 
  have to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are 
  a lot of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are 
  NOT hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and 
  have a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in 
  the 70's and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.
 
  --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:
 
  From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
  To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
  Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
  texascavers@texascavers.com
  Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM
 
  As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.
 
  On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
   BS
  
   On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com 
   wrote:
  
   Check this out:
  
   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

2012-03-09 Thread tom rogers
Sure why not. I'll bring a full aray of tools. Enough so that everyone can join 
in on the fun. Tom Rogers

-Original Message-

From: Don Arburn
Sent: 9 Mar 2012 03:32:18 GMT
To: TSA Cavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

March 16, 17  18
We are going to work on the back porch roof and a few other things.
Anyone interested?

Sent cellularly.
-Don

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[Texascavers] thanks

2012-03-09 Thread Nancy Weaver

for all the suggestions for roof racks.  I've got enough to follow up on.


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[Texascavers] Travel in Mexico

2012-03-09 Thread Mike Walsh
As many of you are aware, I have a caver hotel in Aquismon, Mexico.  I love
Mexico and have business that I conduct in the country.  As a result, I
still travel to Mexico.  The war in Mexico has changed my travel, however,
it is not necessary to abandon the country that we love.  If you are
interested in going to Mexico, contact me and I will provide you with my
best information.  I attempt to keep up with the American drug war related
problems on a day to day basis.  Here is some basic information.

 

Take a cruise from Galveston to Cozumel.  Recently, I went with my wife
Lynda.  It was fairly inexpensive and we had a good deal of fun.

 

Fly from San Antonio on Innerjet Airline to Mexico City for under $250
dollars roundtrip.  The State Department lists the states of Mexico, Puebla,
Tlaxcala and Queretaro  as not being in their target area.

 

Take a daytime bus from the Mexico City Northern Bus Terminal directly to
Xilitila, San Luis Potosi.  The bus is a good one, it even has a bathroom
and movies.  Since the bus trip is eight hours long, you might consider
stopping at the tourist towns of San Juan del Rio- Tesquisquipan- Jalpan
along the way.  The three cities have good hotels and are fun places to
visit.

 

From Xilitla, take a bus to the Aquismon crossing. (Fifteen miles). Take a
taxi the last three miles.   Aquismon may be the safest place in Mexico to
go caving.  I can provide additional info upon request.

 

If you  want to a border town for fun or for inexpensive dental work, go to
Nuevo Progreso, Mexico.  It is safe and open for business.  Each weekend,
500-1000 Americans cross over for a good day in a safe Mexican border town.
Do not forget your American passport. The American government has issued
statements that they will not let you return to your country without a
passport.  

 

If you are going deep into Mexico and you want to largely by-pass most of
the border problems, cross at the Pharr, Texas crossing.  From the Mexican
customs it is about three miles to the Reynosa Airport.  There is a Mexican
airline that will fly you directly to Veracruz for under $200 roundtrip. Be
aware, that each year, somewhere in the world there are plane crashes.

 

I also take the bus down to Ciudad Valles and on to my place in Aquismon.
If you plan on taking a bus, contact me and I will give you my best advice.
The route may change from time to time due to the current situations.
Today, I would cross at Brownsville, Texas into Matamoros.  Walk the 500
feet to the Garcia's store and ask the parking guard to get you a taxi to
the bus station.  He will know a taxi driver that he trusts.   Take a
daytime bus from Matamoros to Ciudad Valles (Transpais is my favorite).
Aquismon is only thirty miles by bus from Ciudad Valles.

 

There are ways to take your trucks down to Aquismon, however, some times and
routes are much better than others.  Give me a call and I will assist you.

 

I understand that there are a number of cavers that will not go back into
Mexico for a number of reasons including lifestyle changes. If you choose
not to go to Mexico, that is your decision.   There are some cavers that
love Mexico and the incredible people of Mexico and want to go.  Mexico is
one of the best places in the world for caving.   Contact me and I will
assist you.  Viva Mexico. 

 

 

 Mike Walsh

mikewaus...@austin.rr.com

512-249-2283



Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread freddie poer
Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in the 
last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas and 
Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It is less 
than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't have to 
sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are a lot of 
caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are NOT hunting 
Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and have a good 
time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in the 70's and 
80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.  

--- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:


From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM


As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 BS

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Check this out:
  
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/

 

Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Nico Escamilla
Freddie,

I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so
much
finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I
couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which
is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as
many of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will
automatically turn them into victims.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in
 the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas
 and Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It
 is less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't
 have to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are
 a lot of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are
 NOT hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and
 have a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in
 the 70's and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.

 --- On *Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org* wrote:


 From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
 Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM

 As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid
 yet.

 On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla 
 pitboun...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  BS
 
  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power 
  power_lou...@hotmail.comhttp://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=power_lou...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Check this out:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
 
 




RE: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Louise Power

I guess what concerned me the most was the emphasis on crime and violence along 
the border where we always used to go through and in the larger cities like 
Monterrey where we used to visit before and after trips. Like some, I'm not so 
concerned about the interior, but getting there may no longer be half the fun. 
Not concerned for myself, however, since I'm in Oregon now and not just a few 
hours away. We have our own problems here along the I-5 corridor which is a 
river of drugs. Also, we have problems in the National Forests and on BLM lands 
where the cartels have huge MJ gardens. This has been going on for years and 
doesn't seem to get better.
Louise

 From: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 To: pitboun...@gmail.com
 CC: freddiepoe...@yahoo.com; her...@cavechat.org; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:49:26 +
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 
 Nico,
 
 I'm sure Americans aren't being hunted per se, but I would guess that their 
 4-wheel drive pickups, money and other useful goods are coveted in certain 
 parts of the country where there is no one to stop people from taking these 
 things from them.
 
 People asked me if I felt unsafe when I went to China recently, and I did 
 not. I have to say that there was an evening in Granada, Spain on my August 
 vacation where I felt more vulnerable than I have in years, but that was 
 because Bill and I foolishly wandered off late at night and got turned around 
 in some back streets where it's known that young thugs target wealthy 
 tourists. Fortunately we found another couple that lived in the city and 
 helped us with our locations (note: get cell phone activated for next trip to 
 Europe).
 
 As with any travel, if you go to the wrong places you may be targeted. It's 
 kind of difficult right now for gringos who don't speak a lot of Spanish to 
 know where the wrong places are anymore in the rural Mexican caving areas.
 
 Diana
 
 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 Diana R. Tomchick
 Professor
 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
 Department of Biochemistry
 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
 Rm. ND10.214B
 Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
 Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 214-645-6383 (phone)
 214-645-6353 (fax)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote:
 
  Freddie,
 
  I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so 
  much
  finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I 
  couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which 
  is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as 
  many of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will 
  automatically turn them into victims.
 
  On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com 
  wrote:
  Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in 
  the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas 
  and Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It 
  is less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't 
  have to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are 
  a lot of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are 
  NOT hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and 
  have a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in 
  the 70's and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.
 
  --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:
 
  From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
  To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
  Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
  texascavers@texascavers.com
  Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM
 
  As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.
 
  On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
   BS
  
   On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com 
   wrote:
  
   Check this out:
  
   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

2012-03-09 Thread tom rogers
Sure why not. I'll bring a full aray of tools. Enough so that everyone can join 
in on the fun. Tom Rogers

-Original Message-

From: Don Arburn
Sent: 9 Mar 2012 03:32:18 GMT
To: TSA Cavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

March 16, 17  18
We are going to work on the back porch roof and a few other things.
Anyone interested?

Sent cellularly.
-Don

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2012-03-09 Thread Nancy Weaver

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[Texascavers] Travel in Mexico

2012-03-09 Thread Mike Walsh
As many of you are aware, I have a caver hotel in Aquismon, Mexico.  I love
Mexico and have business that I conduct in the country.  As a result, I
still travel to Mexico.  The war in Mexico has changed my travel, however,
it is not necessary to abandon the country that we love.  If you are
interested in going to Mexico, contact me and I will provide you with my
best information.  I attempt to keep up with the American drug war related
problems on a day to day basis.  Here is some basic information.

 

Take a cruise from Galveston to Cozumel.  Recently, I went with my wife
Lynda.  It was fairly inexpensive and we had a good deal of fun.

 

Fly from San Antonio on Innerjet Airline to Mexico City for under $250
dollars roundtrip.  The State Department lists the states of Mexico, Puebla,
Tlaxcala and Queretaro  as not being in their target area.

 

Take a daytime bus from the Mexico City Northern Bus Terminal directly to
Xilitila, San Luis Potosi.  The bus is a good one, it even has a bathroom
and movies.  Since the bus trip is eight hours long, you might consider
stopping at the tourist towns of San Juan del Rio- Tesquisquipan- Jalpan
along the way.  The three cities have good hotels and are fun places to
visit.

 

From Xilitla, take a bus to the Aquismon crossing. (Fifteen miles). Take a
taxi the last three miles.   Aquismon may be the safest place in Mexico to
go caving.  I can provide additional info upon request.

 

If you  want to a border town for fun or for inexpensive dental work, go to
Nuevo Progreso, Mexico.  It is safe and open for business.  Each weekend,
500-1000 Americans cross over for a good day in a safe Mexican border town.
Do not forget your American passport. The American government has issued
statements that they will not let you return to your country without a
passport.  

 

If you are going deep into Mexico and you want to largely by-pass most of
the border problems, cross at the Pharr, Texas crossing.  From the Mexican
customs it is about three miles to the Reynosa Airport.  There is a Mexican
airline that will fly you directly to Veracruz for under $200 roundtrip. Be
aware, that each year, somewhere in the world there are plane crashes.

 

I also take the bus down to Ciudad Valles and on to my place in Aquismon.
If you plan on taking a bus, contact me and I will give you my best advice.
The route may change from time to time due to the current situations.
Today, I would cross at Brownsville, Texas into Matamoros.  Walk the 500
feet to the Garcia's store and ask the parking guard to get you a taxi to
the bus station.  He will know a taxi driver that he trusts.   Take a
daytime bus from Matamoros to Ciudad Valles (Transpais is my favorite).
Aquismon is only thirty miles by bus from Ciudad Valles.

 

There are ways to take your trucks down to Aquismon, however, some times and
routes are much better than others.  Give me a call and I will assist you.

 

I understand that there are a number of cavers that will not go back into
Mexico for a number of reasons including lifestyle changes. If you choose
not to go to Mexico, that is your decision.   There are some cavers that
love Mexico and the incredible people of Mexico and want to go.  Mexico is
one of the best places in the world for caving.   Contact me and I will
assist you.  Viva Mexico. 

 

 

 Mike Walsh

mikewaus...@austin.rr.com

512-249-2283



Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread freddie poer
Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in the 
last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas and 
Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It is less 
than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't have to 
sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are a lot of 
caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are NOT hunting 
Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and have a good 
time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in the 70's and 
80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.  

--- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:


From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM


As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.

On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
 BS

 On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Check this out:
  
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/

 

Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Nico Escamilla
Freddie,

I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so
much
finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I
couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which
is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as
many of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will
automatically turn them into victims.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in
 the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas
 and Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It
 is less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't
 have to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are
 a lot of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are
 NOT hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and
 have a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in
 the 70's and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.

 --- On *Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org* wrote:


 From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
 Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM

 As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid
 yet.

 On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla 
 pitboun...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pitboun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  BS
 
  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power 
  power_lou...@hotmail.comhttp://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=power_lou...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Check this out:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
 
 




Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Diana Tomchick
Nico,

I'm sure Americans aren't being hunted per se, but I would guess that their 
4-wheel drive pickups, money and other useful goods are coveted in certain 
parts of the country where there is no one to stop people from taking these 
things from them.

People asked me if I felt unsafe when I went to China recently, and I did not. 
I have to say that there was an evening in Granada, Spain on my August vacation 
where I felt more vulnerable than I have in years, but that was because Bill 
and I foolishly wandered off late at night and got turned around in some back 
streets where it's known that young thugs target wealthy tourists. Fortunately 
we found another couple that lived in the city and helped us with our locations 
(note: get cell phone activated for next trip to Europe).

As with any travel, if you go to the wrong places you may be targeted. It's 
kind of difficult right now for gringos who don't speak a lot of Spanish to 
know where the wrong places are anymore in the rural Mexican caving areas.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote:

 Freddie,

 I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so 
 much
 finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I 
 couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which 
 is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as many 
 of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will automatically 
 turn them into victims.

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in 
 the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas and 
 Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It is 
 less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't have 
 to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are a lot 
 of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are NOT 
 hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and have 
 a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in the 70's 
 and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.

 --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:

 From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
 Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM

 As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.

 On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
  BS
 
  On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Check this out:
 
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
 
 





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RE: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?

2012-03-09 Thread Louise Power

I guess what concerned me the most was the emphasis on crime and violence along 
the border where we always used to go through and in the larger cities like 
Monterrey where we used to visit before and after trips. Like some, I'm not so 
concerned about the interior, but getting there may no longer be half the fun. 
Not concerned for myself, however, since I'm in Oregon now and not just a few 
hours away. We have our own problems here along the I-5 corridor which is a 
river of drugs. Also, we have problems in the National Forests and on BLM lands 
where the cartels have huge MJ gardens. This has been going on for years and 
doesn't seem to get better.
Louise

 From: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 To: pitboun...@gmail.com
 CC: freddiepoe...@yahoo.com; her...@cavechat.org; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:49:26 +
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
 
 Nico,
 
 I'm sure Americans aren't being hunted per se, but I would guess that their 
 4-wheel drive pickups, money and other useful goods are coveted in certain 
 parts of the country where there is no one to stop people from taking these 
 things from them.
 
 People asked me if I felt unsafe when I went to China recently, and I did 
 not. I have to say that there was an evening in Granada, Spain on my August 
 vacation where I felt more vulnerable than I have in years, but that was 
 because Bill and I foolishly wandered off late at night and got turned around 
 in some back streets where it's known that young thugs target wealthy 
 tourists. Fortunately we found another couple that lived in the city and 
 helped us with our locations (note: get cell phone activated for next trip to 
 Europe).
 
 As with any travel, if you go to the wrong places you may be targeted. It's 
 kind of difficult right now for gringos who don't speak a lot of Spanish to 
 know where the wrong places are anymore in the rural Mexican caving areas.
 
 Diana
 
 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 Diana R. Tomchick
 Professor
 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
 Department of Biochemistry
 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
 Rm. ND10.214B
 Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
 Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 214-645-6383 (phone)
 214-645-6353 (fax)
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Nico Escamilla wrote:
 
  Freddie,
 
  I dont remember having met you in person yet, but THANK YOU!! thank you so 
  much
  finally someone is making some sense about traveling here in Mexico, I 
  couldn't have said it better, Americans aren't being hunted down here which 
  is a message I've been trying to get my gringo friends to understand as 
  many of them think that driving around here with Texas plates will 
  automatically turn them into victims.
 
  On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM, freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com 
  wrote:
  Go to the Xilitla and Aquismon areas. I have made over nine trips there in 
  the last two years without any problems whatsoever. The big pits Guaguas 
  and Golondrinas are there and the people are friendly and accommodating. It 
  is less than 24 hrs. from Austin. Accomodations are available so you don't 
  have to sleep on the ground in a tent unless you really want to. There are 
  a lot of caves in this area, the biggest and best in the world. They are 
  NOT hunting Americans there or anywhere else in Mexico, so come on down and 
  have a good time. I actually feel safer traveling there now than I did in 
  the 70's and 80's. Maybe we will see you in the El Agave some evening.
 
  --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org wrote:
 
  From: Herman Miller her...@cavechat.org
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Anyone caving in Mexico over spring break?
  To: Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com
  Cc: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas Cavers 
  texascavers@texascavers.com
  Date: Thursday, March 8, 2012, 6:52 PM
 
  As I have already mentioned I am always wanting to go but nothing solid yet.
 
  On Tuesday, March 6, 2012, Nico Escamilla pitboun...@gmail.com wrote:
   BS
  
   On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com 
   wrote:
  
   Check this out:
  
   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46644850/ns/travel-seasonal_travel/
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 UT Southwestern Medical Center
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RE: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

2012-03-09 Thread tom rogers
Sure why not. I'll bring a full aray of tools. Enough so that everyone can join 
in on the fun. Tom Rogers

-Original Message-

From: Don Arburn
Sent: 9 Mar 2012 03:32:18 GMT
To: TSA Cavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] DP Work Weekend

March 16, 17  18
We are going to work on the back porch roof and a few other things.
Anyone interested?

Sent cellularly.
-Don

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