[Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-06 Thread Mixon Bill
For those wanting to keep up on the Mexican drug wars, there's a long  
article in the July 2 issue of The New Yorker. I recall earlier press  
reports that the Mexican army had seized a remarkable about of meth.  
From the article:


"In February, the Army announced that it had seized, in a "historic  
bust," in Tlajomulco [Jalisco], fifteen tons of methamphetamine. The  
street value of that much meth was, by the Army's figuring, some four  
billion dollars. If true, that would make it the largest meth bust in  
history. But was it true?...


"I tried to get to the bottom of a single bust--the "historic" meth- 
lab raid in Tlajomulco that confiscated some our billion dollars'  
worth of drugs. Were the drugs seized really worth that much? Well,  
no. The more experts I consulted, the lower the number sank. Maybe it  
was a billion, if the meth was pure. Then was it really fifteen tons  
of "pure meth," as widely reported? Well, no. There had been some  
confusion. There were precursor chemicals. A lot of equipment--gas  
tanks, reactors. Maybe it was eleven pounds of pure meth. Eleven  
pounds? Nobody wanted to speak on the record, but the spokesman for  
the federal presecutor's office in Guadalajara, a young man named  
Ulises Enríquez Camacho, finally said, "Yes, five kilos." Eleven  
pounds. The fifteen tons had been methamphetamine ready for packing,  
according to the Army. But it was not "finished product," and there  
had been only five kilos of crystal. In the U.S., where meth is often  
sold by the gram, that amount might be worth five hundred thousand  
dollars. So the reported value had been inflated by a factor of eight  
thousand?"


I hope the body count is not off by a factor of eight thousand.
--Mixon

I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The  
things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain  
to me how everything works." That's when I wake up.


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[Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-06 Thread Mixon Bill
For those wanting to keep up on the Mexican drug wars, there's a long  
article in the July 2 issue of The New Yorker. I recall earlier press  
reports that the Mexican army had seized a remarkable about of meth.  
From the article:


"In February, the Army announced that it had seized, in a "historic  
bust," in Tlajomulco [Jalisco], fifteen tons of methamphetamine. The  
street value of that much meth was, by the Army's figuring, some four  
billion dollars. If true, that would make it the largest meth bust in  
history. But was it true?...


"I tried to get to the bottom of a single bust--the "historic" meth- 
lab raid in Tlajomulco that confiscated some our billion dollars'  
worth of drugs. Were the drugs seized really worth that much? Well,  
no. The more experts I consulted, the lower the number sank. Maybe it  
was a billion, if the meth was pure. Then was it really fifteen tons  
of "pure meth," as widely reported? Well, no. There had been some  
confusion. There were precursor chemicals. A lot of equipment--gas  
tanks, reactors. Maybe it was eleven pounds of pure meth. Eleven  
pounds? Nobody wanted to speak on the record, but the spokesman for  
the federal presecutor's office in Guadalajara, a young man named  
Ulises Enríquez Camacho, finally said, "Yes, five kilos." Eleven  
pounds. The fifteen tons had been methamphetamine ready for packing,  
according to the Army. But it was not "finished product," and there  
had been only five kilos of crystal. In the U.S., where meth is often  
sold by the gram, that amount might be worth five hundred thousand  
dollars. So the reported value had been inflated by a factor of eight  
thousand?"


I hope the body count is not off by a factor of eight thousand.
--Mixon

I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The  
things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain  
to me how everything works." That's when I wake up.


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[Texascavers] Mexican drug wars

2012-07-06 Thread Mixon Bill
For those wanting to keep up on the Mexican drug wars, there's a long  
article in the July 2 issue of The New Yorker. I recall earlier press  
reports that the Mexican army had seized a remarkable about of meth.  
From the article:


"In February, the Army announced that it had seized, in a "historic  
bust," in Tlajomulco [Jalisco], fifteen tons of methamphetamine. The  
street value of that much meth was, by the Army's figuring, some four  
billion dollars. If true, that would make it the largest meth bust in  
history. But was it true?...


"I tried to get to the bottom of a single bust--the "historic" meth- 
lab raid in Tlajomulco that confiscated some our billion dollars'  
worth of drugs. Were the drugs seized really worth that much? Well,  
no. The more experts I consulted, the lower the number sank. Maybe it  
was a billion, if the meth was pure. Then was it really fifteen tons  
of "pure meth," as widely reported? Well, no. There had been some  
confusion. There were precursor chemicals. A lot of equipment--gas  
tanks, reactors. Maybe it was eleven pounds of pure meth. Eleven  
pounds? Nobody wanted to speak on the record, but the spokesman for  
the federal presecutor's office in Guadalajara, a young man named  
Ulises Enríquez Camacho, finally said, "Yes, five kilos." Eleven  
pounds. The fifteen tons had been methamphetamine ready for packing,  
according to the Army. But it was not "finished product," and there  
had been only five kilos of crystal. In the U.S., where meth is often  
sold by the gram, that amount might be worth five hundred thousand  
dollars. So the reported value had been inflated by a factor of eight  
thousand?"


I hope the body count is not off by a factor of eight thousand.
--Mixon

I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The  
things your science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain  
to me how everything works." That's when I wake up.


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[Texascavers] Bat News

2012-07-06 Thread Lyndon Tiu
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Got-mosquitoes-Bats-will-help-get-rid-of-them/-/1735978/15429584/-/vlouty/-/index.html

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Lyndon Tiu


[Texascavers] Bat News

2012-07-06 Thread Lyndon Tiu
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Got-mosquitoes-Bats-will-help-get-rid-of-them/-/1735978/15429584/-/vlouty/-/index.html

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[Texascavers] Bat News

2012-07-06 Thread Lyndon Tiu
http://www.click2houston.com/news/Got-mosquitoes-Bats-will-help-get-rid-of-them/-/1735978/15429584/-/vlouty/-/index.html

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[Texascavers] Fwd: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Joe & Evelynn Mitchell

> Update on parking for tomorrow.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Ann Scott 
>> Date: July 6, 2012 1:16:29 PM CDT
>> To: Evelynn Mitchell 
>> Subject: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life
>> 
>> Parking is available at the church a couple blocks away. It's at the 
>> northwest corner of Melissa Drive and Blanco Road south of Haltown Drive. 
>> 
>> Fourth Church of Christ 
>> 903 Melissa Drive
>> San Antonio, TX 78213
>> 
>> Please call Linda at: 210-699-1388 or Allan at: 512 694 5433 and some one 
>> will come and pick you up. Unless you wish to walk...
> 



[Texascavers] Fwd: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Joe & Evelynn Mitchell

> Update on parking for tomorrow.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Ann Scott 
>> Date: July 6, 2012 1:16:29 PM CDT
>> To: Evelynn Mitchell 
>> Subject: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life
>> 
>> Parking is available at the church a couple blocks away. It's at the 
>> northwest corner of Melissa Drive and Blanco Road south of Haltown Drive. 
>> 
>> Fourth Church of Christ 
>> 903 Melissa Drive
>> San Antonio, TX 78213
>> 
>> Please call Linda at: 210-699-1388 or Allan at: 512 694 5433 and some one 
>> will come and pick you up. Unless you wish to walk...
> 



[Texascavers] Fwd: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Joe & Evelynn Mitchell

> Update on parking for tomorrow.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Ann Scott 
>> Date: July 6, 2012 1:16:29 PM CDT
>> To: Evelynn Mitchell 
>> Subject: Parking at Church for Nick's Celebration of Life
>> 
>> Parking is available at the church a couple blocks away. It's at the 
>> northwest corner of Melissa Drive and Blanco Road south of Haltown Drive. 
>> 
>> Fourth Church of Christ 
>> 903 Melissa Drive
>> San Antonio, TX 78213
>> 
>> Please call Linda at: 210-699-1388 or Allan at: 512 694 5433 and some one 
>> will come and pick you up. Unless you wish to walk...
> 



RE: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Stefan Creaser
Vico and I are gonna cook a big batch of beef for tacos and, um, something I've 
forgotten (at least Vico knows what it is!), so there >should< be plenty of 
food. If anyone wants to bring fixin's for these it'd be appreciated; msg or 
email me for suggestions :-)

Cheers,
Stefan

From: Linda Palit [mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:12 AM
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are 
coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn 
chairs.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:
I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for 
the reminder.

 Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very 
graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 
at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life 
from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy 
memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and 
brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs!


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RE: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Stefan Creaser
Vico and I are gonna cook a big batch of beef for tacos and, um, something I've 
forgotten (at least Vico knows what it is!), so there >should< be plenty of 
food. If anyone wants to bring fixin's for these it'd be appreciated; msg or 
email me for suggestions :-)

Cheers,
Stefan

From: Linda Palit [mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:12 AM
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are 
coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn 
chairs.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:
I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for 
the reminder.

 Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very 
graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 
at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life 
from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy 
memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and 
brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs!


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RE: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

2012-07-06 Thread Stefan Creaser
Vico and I are gonna cook a big batch of beef for tacos and, um, something I've 
forgotten (at least Vico knows what it is!), so there >should< be plenty of 
food. If anyone wants to bring fixin's for these it'd be appreciated; msg or 
email me for suggestions :-)

Cheers,
Stefan

From: Linda Palit [mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:12 AM
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Celebration of Life

If you want to stay the evening, we will find you a place to crash. If you are 
coming, please drop me a note so we have enough food, and please bring lawn 
chairs.

Thanks,
Linda

On Sunday, July 1, 2012, Jenni Arburn wrote:
I'm sorry that I forgot not everyone is into Face Book. Thanks, Joe Ranzau for 
the reminder.

 Dear Friends, Family and Misc Loved Ones: Allan Cobb and Linda Palit have very 
graciously provided us with space to celebrate Nick's life on Saturday, July 7 
at 1122 Haltown, San Antonio, 78213. We welcome everyone who touched his life 
from 11AM to about 4PM. Please being your own chairs, a potluck dish, happy 
memories and photos to share. We'll have a keg of Shiner beer to toast with and 
brisket. Don and I look forward to seeing you there. Hugs!


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RE: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

2012-07-06 Thread Mark Minton
Surely the NSS has a more universally accessible place to 
post photos than Facebook!  They should be on the NSS' own web 
site.  Put a link to that on Facebook for those folks, but please 
keep it open to everyone!


Mark Minton

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From: bburne...@austin.rr.com
To: freyli...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:49:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

You mean those on Facebook
REB

From: Brian Freyling
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:22 PM
To: Texascavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

Don't forget to share your Conventions photos for all to see!
MayaCon 2012 Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152880844775941/

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-Brian Freyling


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RE: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

2012-07-06 Thread Mark Minton
Surely the NSS has a more universally accessible place to 
post photos than Facebook!  They should be on the NSS' own web 
site.  Put a link to that on Facebook for those folks, but please 
keep it open to everyone!


Mark Minton

At 08:46 PM 7/5/2012, Louise Power wrote:

Oops! You have to login to look. Not gonna happin.

From: bburne...@austin.rr.com
To: freyli...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:49:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

You mean those on Facebook
REB

From: Brian Freyling
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:22 PM
To: Texascavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

Don't forget to share your Conventions photos for all to see!
MayaCon 2012 Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152880844775941/

Thanks,
-Brian Freyling


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RE: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

2012-07-06 Thread Mark Minton
Surely the NSS has a more universally accessible place to 
post photos than Facebook!  They should be on the NSS' own web 
site.  Put a link to that on Facebook for those folks, but please 
keep it open to everyone!


Mark Minton

At 08:46 PM 7/5/2012, Louise Power wrote:

Oops! You have to login to look. Not gonna happin.

From: bburne...@austin.rr.com
To: freyli...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:49:25 -0500
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

You mean those on Facebook
REB

From: Brian Freyling
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:22 PM
To: Texascavers List
Subject: [Texascavers] 2012 NSS Convention Photos

Don't forget to share your Conventions photos for all to see!
MayaCon 2012 Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152880844775941/

Thanks,
-Brian Freyling


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[Texascavers] A request from an old-time Texas Archaeologist..

2012-07-06 Thread Ted Samsel
Al Wesowlowsky asks this: (Al is currently retired in Vermont is drawing
and archiving/curating) comic /graphic novel art.  Anyone have a handle on
this booger?

*Ca. 1968, the Cavers at UT produced a short comic book by Charlie Loving.
It was printed in blue, stapled, ca. 8.5 by 11 inches, maybe 12 pages. The
stories included one about "Chad Chert," a character based on Chad Oliver,
and there was a "cavers do's and don'ts" page. The title may have been
something like "The Cavers Meet the Anthropologists."

Jonathan Davis gave me a copy, and I foolishly gave it some 25 years ago to
Tom Hester, who relayed it to the late Mott Davis.

I'm very interested in locating a copy that I can borrow to scan for a
friend who is researching comics about spelunking. I don't suppose you have
one? Or are you in contact with Old Cavers who might still possess one and
be willing to loan it for a week or so? Maybe Charlie has a copy stashed
away? *


[Texascavers] A request from an old-time Texas Archaeologist..

2012-07-06 Thread Ted Samsel
Al Wesowlowsky asks this: (Al is currently retired in Vermont is drawing
and archiving/curating) comic /graphic novel art.  Anyone have a handle on
this booger?

*Ca. 1968, the Cavers at UT produced a short comic book by Charlie Loving.
It was printed in blue, stapled, ca. 8.5 by 11 inches, maybe 12 pages. The
stories included one about "Chad Chert," a character based on Chad Oliver,
and there was a "cavers do's and don'ts" page. The title may have been
something like "The Cavers Meet the Anthropologists."

Jonathan Davis gave me a copy, and I foolishly gave it some 25 years ago to
Tom Hester, who relayed it to the late Mott Davis.

I'm very interested in locating a copy that I can borrow to scan for a
friend who is researching comics about spelunking. I don't suppose you have
one? Or are you in contact with Old Cavers who might still possess one and
be willing to loan it for a week or so? Maybe Charlie has a copy stashed
away? *


[Texascavers] A request from an old-time Texas Archaeologist..

2012-07-06 Thread Ted Samsel
Al Wesowlowsky asks this: (Al is currently retired in Vermont is drawing
and archiving/curating) comic /graphic novel art.  Anyone have a handle on
this booger?

*Ca. 1968, the Cavers at UT produced a short comic book by Charlie Loving.
It was printed in blue, stapled, ca. 8.5 by 11 inches, maybe 12 pages. The
stories included one about "Chad Chert," a character based on Chad Oliver,
and there was a "cavers do's and don'ts" page. The title may have been
something like "The Cavers Meet the Anthropologists."

Jonathan Davis gave me a copy, and I foolishly gave it some 25 years ago to
Tom Hester, who relayed it to the late Mott Davis.

I'm very interested in locating a copy that I can borrow to scan for a
friend who is researching comics about spelunking. I don't suppose you have
one? Or are you in contact with Old Cavers who might still possess one and
be willing to loan it for a week or so? Maybe Charlie has a copy stashed
away? *


[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink

2012-07-06 Thread Gill Edigar
Kiwi Sink Digging Projects will be held on Sundays, the 8th and 22nd
of July. Just park at Ernie Garza's, 444 Billie Brooks Lane,
Driftwood, TX 78619. If you GPS note spelling of Billie. The sinkhole
is across the street. We have some digging tools but if you have any
you especially like to use bring them along. Show up at 10 a.m. or
later. Bring a friend or two and maybe a sandwich and a beer. There's
plenty of work to be done. For info email or call me at 410-303-1177.
NO TEXT MESSAGES! Please!

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[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink

2012-07-06 Thread Gill Edigar
Kiwi Sink Digging Projects will be held on Sundays, the 8th and 22nd
of July. Just park at Ernie Garza's, 444 Billie Brooks Lane,
Driftwood, TX 78619. If you GPS note spelling of Billie. The sinkhole
is across the street. We have some digging tools but if you have any
you especially like to use bring them along. Show up at 10 a.m. or
later. Bring a friend or two and maybe a sandwich and a beer. There's
plenty of work to be done. For info email or call me at 410-303-1177.
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[Texascavers] Kiwi Sink

2012-07-06 Thread Gill Edigar
Kiwi Sink Digging Projects will be held on Sundays, the 8th and 22nd
of July. Just park at Ernie Garza's, 444 Billie Brooks Lane,
Driftwood, TX 78619. If you GPS note spelling of Billie. The sinkhole
is across the street. We have some digging tools but if you have any
you especially like to use bring them along. Show up at 10 a.m. or
later. Bring a friend or two and maybe a sandwich and a beer. There's
plenty of work to be done. For info email or call me at 410-303-1177.
NO TEXT MESSAGES! Please!

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