[SWR] anatomy of a bat

2012-11-07 Thread Jen.
One of my friends on facebook shared this video of a very neat bat 
reconstruction.


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[SWR] anatomy of a bat

2012-11-07 Thread Jen.
One of my friends on facebook shared this video of a very neat bat 
reconstruction.


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[SWR] anatomy of a bat

2012-11-07 Thread Jen.
One of my friends on facebook shared this video of a very neat bat 
reconstruction.


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[Texascavers] clarification

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Chuck Stuehm Award winners photo request : photos do not have to be from the
TCR awards announcment. Any nice photo will do. 

 

 



[Texascavers] clarification

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Chuck Stuehm Award winners photo request : photos do not have to be from the
TCR awards announcment. Any nice photo will do. 

 

 



[Texascavers] clarification

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Chuck Stuehm Award winners photo request : photos do not have to be from the
TCR awards announcment. Any nice photo will do. 

 

 



[Texascavers] another request for photos

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
If anyone has photos of any of the Chuck Stuehm Award winners - I'd love to
have them for the TC

Austin McRee - Greater Houston Grotto

Kris Pena - UT Grotto

William Quast - UT Grotto

Natasha Glasgow - DFW Grotto 

Gregg Williams - Bexar Grotto

Rachel Saker - Aggie Speleological Society

 

Recipients are welcome to send your own  J

Thanks! - jill



[Texascavers] another request for photos

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
If anyone has photos of any of the Chuck Stuehm Award winners - I'd love to
have them for the TC

Austin McRee - Greater Houston Grotto

Kris Pena - UT Grotto

William Quast - UT Grotto

Natasha Glasgow - DFW Grotto 

Gregg Williams - Bexar Grotto

Rachel Saker - Aggie Speleological Society

 

Recipients are welcome to send your own  J

Thanks! - jill



[Texascavers] another request for photos

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
If anyone has photos of any of the Chuck Stuehm Award winners - I'd love to
have them for the TC

Austin McRee - Greater Houston Grotto

Kris Pena - UT Grotto

William Quast - UT Grotto

Natasha Glasgow - DFW Grotto 

Gregg Williams - Bexar Grotto

Rachel Saker - Aggie Speleological Society

 

Recipients are welcome to send your own  J

Thanks! - jill



[Texascavers] speleolympics results

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Does anyone have the speleolympic results to send me for the Texas Caver?

Articles? Photos? 

Thanks in advance! Jill



[Texascavers] speleolympics results

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Does anyone have the speleolympic results to send me for the Texas Caver?

Articles? Photos? 

Thanks in advance! Jill



[Texascavers] speleolympics results

2012-11-07 Thread Jill Orr
Does anyone have the speleolympic results to send me for the Texas Caver?

Articles? Photos? 

Thanks in advance! Jill



Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2012-11-07 Thread Charles Goldsmith
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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2012-11-07 Thread Charles Goldsmith
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM,  wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> > texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.
> >
> > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2012-11-07 Thread Charles Goldsmith
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM,  wrote:

> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.
>
> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
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> I respectfully request your permission to add
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> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM,  wrote:
>
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> > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> > at texascavers-ow...@texascavers.com.
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> > Usually, this happens when you just hit the "reply" button.
> > If this does not work, simply copy the address and paste it into
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> > This confirmation serves two purposes. First, it verifies that I am able
> > to get mail through to you. Second, it protects you in case someone
> > forges a subscription request in your name.
> >
> > Some mail programs are broken and cannot handle long addresses. If you
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CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2012-11-07 Thread texascavers-help
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
texascavers@texascavers.com mailing list.

I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
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I respectfully request your permission to add

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To confirm, please send an empty reply to this address:

   
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If you don't approve, simply ignore this message.

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Re: [Texascavers] Be careful out there

2012-11-07 Thread pstrickland1
The way I understood it, an agreement was made with the arc. people in Oaxaca 
city, that the study would be done without moving anything, and everything 
would be left,"in sito"  in this hidden room, in this nondescript cave. I 
visited the cave in 2002, many years after the study, and everything looked in 
place to me.

 bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: 
> But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you  
> arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me 
> three  times in Belize.
>  
> The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown  
> out of the country for visiting the Chiquibul cave without his permission.  
> (Logan can tell you all about it.) That didn't work because I was already  
> there. He wrote letters to the forestry department and the University of 
> Florida  accusing me of being a temple looter and drug user who consorts with 
> known  outlaws (specifically Arturo and Brother Moses of gales Point). The 
> first  accusation is untrue but the second two are true. Upon exiting the 
> Vaca 
> plateau  but before writing the letters he burned down my friend Santiago's 
> house along  with all of his meager belongings, then left a ten dollar bill 
> and a note saying  "sorry". 
>  
> Then there was the time the director of the Belize Audubon society tried to 
>  get the Belize Defense Force (BDF) to search for me in the jungle for the 
> crime  of entering the Bladen nature preserve without his personal 
> permission. The BDF  just laughed because they never go into the jungle, 
> there could 
> be snakes out  there! On my way out I ran into a so called "Rapid 
> Environmental Assessment"  team funded by the Nature Conservancy and 
> supported by the 
> British army (those  damned helicopters again!) They had catered meals with 
> fresh salads and dessert  yet denied me a pinch of salt. Even though they 
> could see I had nothing but a  small pack and the clothes on my back they 
> accused me of being a looter. While  saying this they were standing next to 
> large sack loads of looted  artifacts.
>  
> Then an archeologist named Dunham? took great exception to the fact that I  
> had explored the valley of Sleazeweazel branch, an upstream tributary of 
> the  Bladen branch even further up the Monkey river. There is a small ruin  
> there and he wanted credit for being the first person to discover it (by  
> helicopter of course!) He apparently brought in a large number of Mayans and  
> utterly destroyed the place. His reported pilferage of a large amount of jade 
>  
> may or may not be true. I can't bear the thought of it so I haven't been 
> back. I  tried to cooperate by sending him photographs of what I had 
> discovered.  Unfortunately the aforementioned criminals had in fact dug open 
> a grave, 
> I  caught them and reinterred the remains. Perhaps it was unwise of me to 
> take a  photo of the king's skull with a snake crawling through the eye 
> socket. Dunham  was eventually thrown out of the country. Some years later a 
> friend of mine who  is a real (i.e. non insane) archeologist attended a 
> conference in Belmopan. He  heard my name mentioned and turned to say, "he's 
> a 
> friend of mine". For that  they tried to throw him out of the country too.
>  
> Not all archeologists are insane. What about Logan? (although I have my  
> doubts) Why doesn't he pipe up? 
>  
> SW
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2012 1:23:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> nan...@prismnet.com writes:
> 
> ah always such a gust of fresh air.   thought you might enjoy my experience 
> with 'legitimate' grave  robbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> BLADE  CAVE
> 
> I was suffering a surfeit of testosterone.  We were midway  through a 3 
> month expedition to explore the massive Sistema Huautla, the multi  entranced 
> deepest cave in the western hemisphere, at one time 13th deepest in  the 
> world.  We had rented 2 rock houses in the miniscule pueblo of San  Augustin, 
> a 
> collection of perhaps a dozen 2 story homes, a one room school, a  
> basketball court and a jail cell in the basement of the municipal  building.  
> Between 
> the cobblestone dead end road and the buildings all  the flat land was 
> taken.  Subsistence farming took place on the 45 degree  angle hillsides that 
> formed enormous sinkholes or dolinas funneling the wet  season floods into 
> the 
> cave system, both carving it out and scouring it  slick.  Where the 
> hillsides steepened into cliffs, small boys herded  goats looking for 
> vegetation or 
> gathered twigs for cooking fires.  The  village had no electricity, running 
> water was a much repaired plastic pipe  that snaked from miles away and 
> dripped steadily over by the basketball  court.  Our 4wd schoolbus and 
> assorted 
> Toyota trucks filled to the brim  with cavers and caving gear were the only 
> vehicles to bump down this  road.  Once a week, a bus careened past the 
> intersection of the cobbled  

Re: [Texascavers] Be careful out there

2012-11-07 Thread pstrickland1
The way I understood it, an agreement was made with the arc. people in Oaxaca 
city, that the study would be done without moving anything, and everything 
would be left,"in sito"  in this hidden room, in this nondescript cave. I 
visited the cave in 2002, many years after the study, and everything looked in 
place to me.

 bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: 
> But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you  
> arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me 
> three  times in Belize.
>  
> The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown  
> out of the country for visiting the Chiquibul cave without his permission.  
> (Logan can tell you all about it.) That didn't work because I was already  
> there. He wrote letters to the forestry department and the University of 
> Florida  accusing me of being a temple looter and drug user who consorts with 
> known  outlaws (specifically Arturo and Brother Moses of gales Point). The 
> first  accusation is untrue but the second two are true. Upon exiting the 
> Vaca 
> plateau  but before writing the letters he burned down my friend Santiago's 
> house along  with all of his meager belongings, then left a ten dollar bill 
> and a note saying  "sorry". 
>  
> Then there was the time the director of the Belize Audubon society tried to 
>  get the Belize Defense Force (BDF) to search for me in the jungle for the 
> crime  of entering the Bladen nature preserve without his personal 
> permission. The BDF  just laughed because they never go into the jungle, 
> there could 
> be snakes out  there! On my way out I ran into a so called "Rapid 
> Environmental Assessment"  team funded by the Nature Conservancy and 
> supported by the 
> British army (those  damned helicopters again!) They had catered meals with 
> fresh salads and dessert  yet denied me a pinch of salt. Even though they 
> could see I had nothing but a  small pack and the clothes on my back they 
> accused me of being a looter. While  saying this they were standing next to 
> large sack loads of looted  artifacts.
>  
> Then an archeologist named Dunham? took great exception to the fact that I  
> had explored the valley of Sleazeweazel branch, an upstream tributary of 
> the  Bladen branch even further up the Monkey river. There is a small ruin  
> there and he wanted credit for being the first person to discover it (by  
> helicopter of course!) He apparently brought in a large number of Mayans and  
> utterly destroyed the place. His reported pilferage of a large amount of jade 
>  
> may or may not be true. I can't bear the thought of it so I haven't been 
> back. I  tried to cooperate by sending him photographs of what I had 
> discovered.  Unfortunately the aforementioned criminals had in fact dug open 
> a grave, 
> I  caught them and reinterred the remains. Perhaps it was unwise of me to 
> take a  photo of the king's skull with a snake crawling through the eye 
> socket. Dunham  was eventually thrown out of the country. Some years later a 
> friend of mine who  is a real (i.e. non insane) archeologist attended a 
> conference in Belmopan. He  heard my name mentioned and turned to say, "he's 
> a 
> friend of mine". For that  they tried to throw him out of the country too.
>  
> Not all archeologists are insane. What about Logan? (although I have my  
> doubts) Why doesn't he pipe up? 
>  
> SW
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2012 1:23:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> nan...@prismnet.com writes:
> 
> ah always such a gust of fresh air.   thought you might enjoy my experience 
> with 'legitimate' grave  robbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> BLADE  CAVE
> 
> I was suffering a surfeit of testosterone.  We were midway  through a 3 
> month expedition to explore the massive Sistema Huautla, the multi  entranced 
> deepest cave in the western hemisphere, at one time 13th deepest in  the 
> world.  We had rented 2 rock houses in the miniscule pueblo of San  Augustin, 
> a 
> collection of perhaps a dozen 2 story homes, a one room school, a  
> basketball court and a jail cell in the basement of the municipal  building.  
> Between 
> the cobblestone dead end road and the buildings all  the flat land was 
> taken.  Subsistence farming took place on the 45 degree  angle hillsides that 
> formed enormous sinkholes or dolinas funneling the wet  season floods into 
> the 
> cave system, both carving it out and scouring it  slick.  Where the 
> hillsides steepened into cliffs, small boys herded  goats looking for 
> vegetation or 
> gathered twigs for cooking fires.  The  village had no electricity, running 
> water was a much repaired plastic pipe  that snaked from miles away and 
> dripped steadily over by the basketball  court.  Our 4wd schoolbus and 
> assorted 
> Toyota trucks filled to the brim  with cavers and caving gear were the only 
> vehicles to bump down this  road.  Once a week, a bus careened past the 
> intersection of the cobbled  

Re: [Texascavers] Be careful out there

2012-11-07 Thread pstrickland1
The way I understood it, an agreement was made with the arc. people in Oaxaca 
city, that the study would be done without moving anything, and everything 
would be left,"in sito"  in this hidden room, in this nondescript cave. I 
visited the cave in 2002, many years after the study, and everything looked in 
place to me.

 bmorgan...@aol.com wrote: 
> But Nancy, your story isn't complete. Didn't the Arc narks try to have you  
> arrested for going to the cave in the first place? That has happened to me 
> three  times in Belize.
>  
> The first time a humorless jerk named Tom Miller tried to have me thrown  
> out of the country for visiting the Chiquibul cave without his permission.  
> (Logan can tell you all about it.) That didn't work because I was already  
> there. He wrote letters to the forestry department and the University of 
> Florida  accusing me of being a temple looter and drug user who consorts with 
> known  outlaws (specifically Arturo and Brother Moses of gales Point). The 
> first  accusation is untrue but the second two are true. Upon exiting the 
> Vaca 
> plateau  but before writing the letters he burned down my friend Santiago's 
> house along  with all of his meager belongings, then left a ten dollar bill 
> and a note saying  "sorry". 
>  
> Then there was the time the director of the Belize Audubon society tried to 
>  get the Belize Defense Force (BDF) to search for me in the jungle for the 
> crime  of entering the Bladen nature preserve without his personal 
> permission. The BDF  just laughed because they never go into the jungle, 
> there could 
> be snakes out  there! On my way out I ran into a so called "Rapid 
> Environmental Assessment"  team funded by the Nature Conservancy and 
> supported by the 
> British army (those  damned helicopters again!) They had catered meals with 
> fresh salads and dessert  yet denied me a pinch of salt. Even though they 
> could see I had nothing but a  small pack and the clothes on my back they 
> accused me of being a looter. While  saying this they were standing next to 
> large sack loads of looted  artifacts.
>  
> Then an archeologist named Dunham? took great exception to the fact that I  
> had explored the valley of Sleazeweazel branch, an upstream tributary of 
> the  Bladen branch even further up the Monkey river. There is a small ruin  
> there and he wanted credit for being the first person to discover it (by  
> helicopter of course!) He apparently brought in a large number of Mayans and  
> utterly destroyed the place. His reported pilferage of a large amount of jade 
>  
> may or may not be true. I can't bear the thought of it so I haven't been 
> back. I  tried to cooperate by sending him photographs of what I had 
> discovered.  Unfortunately the aforementioned criminals had in fact dug open 
> a grave, 
> I  caught them and reinterred the remains. Perhaps it was unwise of me to 
> take a  photo of the king's skull with a snake crawling through the eye 
> socket. Dunham  was eventually thrown out of the country. Some years later a 
> friend of mine who  is a real (i.e. non insane) archeologist attended a 
> conference in Belmopan. He  heard my name mentioned and turned to say, "he's 
> a 
> friend of mine". For that  they tried to throw him out of the country too.
>  
> Not all archeologists are insane. What about Logan? (although I have my  
> doubts) Why doesn't he pipe up? 
>  
> SW
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/6/2012 1:23:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> nan...@prismnet.com writes:
> 
> ah always such a gust of fresh air.   thought you might enjoy my experience 
> with 'legitimate' grave  robbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> BLADE  CAVE
> 
> I was suffering a surfeit of testosterone.  We were midway  through a 3 
> month expedition to explore the massive Sistema Huautla, the multi  entranced 
> deepest cave in the western hemisphere, at one time 13th deepest in  the 
> world.  We had rented 2 rock houses in the miniscule pueblo of San  Augustin, 
> a 
> collection of perhaps a dozen 2 story homes, a one room school, a  
> basketball court and a jail cell in the basement of the municipal  building.  
> Between 
> the cobblestone dead end road and the buildings all  the flat land was 
> taken.  Subsistence farming took place on the 45 degree  angle hillsides that 
> formed enormous sinkholes or dolinas funneling the wet  season floods into 
> the 
> cave system, both carving it out and scouring it  slick.  Where the 
> hillsides steepened into cliffs, small boys herded  goats looking for 
> vegetation or 
> gathered twigs for cooking fires.  The  village had no electricity, running 
> water was a much repaired plastic pipe  that snaked from miles away and 
> dripped steadily over by the basketball  court.  Our 4wd schoolbus and 
> assorted 
> Toyota trucks filled to the brim  with cavers and caving gear were the only 
> vehicles to bump down this  road.  Once a week, a bus careened past the 
> intersection of the cobbled  

[Texascavers] mexico travel

2012-11-07 Thread Nico Escamilla
Good news (or sorta) for those who still travel to Mexico.

My local congressman is trying eliminate or waive the security deposit to
get a vehicle permit for traveling. I recall that being 400 dollars iirc,
but he mentions 650, either way its pretty good news. Lets hope it passes,
keep your fingers crossed

Nico


[Texascavers] mexico travel

2012-11-07 Thread Nico Escamilla
Good news (or sorta) for those who still travel to Mexico.

My local congressman is trying eliminate or waive the security deposit to
get a vehicle permit for traveling. I recall that being 400 dollars iirc,
but he mentions 650, either way its pretty good news. Lets hope it passes,
keep your fingers crossed

Nico


[Texascavers] mexico travel

2012-11-07 Thread Nico Escamilla
Good news (or sorta) for those who still travel to Mexico.

My local congressman is trying eliminate or waive the security deposit to
get a vehicle permit for traveling. I recall that being 400 dollars iirc,
but he mentions 650, either way its pretty good news. Lets hope it passes,
keep your fingers crossed

Nico