[Texascavers] Fwd: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas
Actually, I haven't seen it. But if anyone has recently, can he answer Dave's question? -- Mixon Begin forwarded message: From: DAVID WHITACRE david.whita...@boiseschools.org Date: December 11, 2012 11:07:51 AM CST To: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu Subject: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas Hi Bill, I wonder if you know who could answer this question for me: I studied the mexican cave-dwelling swifts for my dissertation (at Golondrinas, etc.), and one of my main study colonies was at the popular tourist attraction El Aguacero, near Ocozocuatla, Chiapas. You've probably been there--it's a waterfall along the Rio La Venta. My question is whether there is still a swift colony there. I've pulled up a lot of photos of El Aguacero from the web, and none of them show any swifts flying around, and I don't get any web hits searching on the appropriate wording either. Any clues as to who has been there recently would be very helpful. Thanks, Dave Whitacre A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
[Texascavers] TSS work session tomorrow
Cavers, Our next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological Survey will be on December 12, tomorrow night, at the JJ Pickle Research Center. We will look for the Airman's Cave map and help TCMA with research on one of its preserves. Come out and help. Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. Both publication sales and the library will be open. The door will be open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive before 6:00 pm and drinks are on me. You may also search the files for your favorite caves. If you have a desire to see the files and unpublished maps, come by and take a look. If you have questions, please contact me at mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com ronra...@austin.rr.com or call my cell. I will be happy to send you a link to the map of the Campus if you need directions. Ron Ralph Cell: 797-3817
[Texascavers] Research on stricken bats may help AIDS fight
That news item is a typical attempt by a scientist to attach his pet project to some other popular and hopefully well-funded goal. (You've no doubt noticed that every other biological discovery is a possible cure for cancer.) AIDS deaths are not caused by the immune system going berserk, but by its eventually being destroyed by the HIV. Some diseases are made worse by immune-overreaction, though. Is it even true that deaths from WNS are caused by immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome? The description in the news item doesn't sound much like what is actually observed, but then press releases are usually written by some publicist who doesn't know anything about the subject. -- Mixon A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and years. J. On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote: Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas. Lets plan a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch for the last weekend in Febuary. Which coincidentally is the next available weekend off at this moment. We could even bring gifts. Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else. Y’all have a Merry Christmas. Kerry From: Ormsby, Matthew A Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail. Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. Have a great week. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Fwd: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas
Actually, I haven't seen it. But if anyone has recently, can he answer Dave's question? -- Mixon Begin forwarded message: From: DAVID WHITACRE david.whita...@boiseschools.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: December 11, 2012 11:07:51 AM CST To: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu Subject: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas Hi Bill, I wonder if you know who could answer this question for me: I studied the mexican cave-dwelling swifts for my dissertation (at Golondrinas, etc.), and one of my main study colonies was at the popular tourist attraction El Aguacero, near Ocozocuatla, Chiapas. You've probably been there--it's a waterfall along the Rio La Venta. My question is whether there is still a swift colony there. I've pulled up a lot of photos of El Aguacero from the web, and none of them show any swifts flying around, and I don't get any web hits searching on the appropriate wording either. Any clues as to who has been there recently would be very helpful. Thanks, Dave Whitacre A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
[Texascavers] WNS
Interesting article. Finding Geomyces destructans was discovering the bullet. This may be the gun. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/research-on-stricken-bats-may-help-aids-fight/2012/12/09/8cc93ab8-38cc-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_story.html Josh
[Texascavers] TSS work session tomorrow
Cavers, Our next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological Survey will be on December 12, tomorrow night, at the JJ Pickle Research Center. We will look for the Airman's Cave map and help TCMA with research on one of its preserves. Come out and help. Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. Both publication sales and the library will be open. The door will be open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive before 6:00 pm and drinks are on me. You may also search the files for your favorite caves. If you have a desire to see the files and unpublished maps, come by and take a look. If you have questions, please contact me at mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com ronra...@austin.rr.com or call my cell. I will be happy to send you a link to the map of the Campus if you need directions. Ron Ralph Cell: 797-3817
[Texascavers] Research on stricken bats may help AIDS fight
That news item is a typical attempt by a scientist to attach his pet project to some other popular and hopefully well-funded goal. (You've no doubt noticed that every other biological discovery is a possible cure for cancer.) AIDS deaths are not caused by the immune system going berserk, but by its eventually being destroyed by the HIV. Some diseases are made worse by immune-overreaction, though. Is it even true that deaths from WNS are caused by immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome? The description in the news item doesn't sound much like what is actually observed, but then press releases are usually written by some publicist who doesn't know anything about the subject. -- Mixon A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and years. J. On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote: Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas. Lets plan a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch for the last weekend in Febuary. Which coincidentally is the next available weekend off at this moment. We could even bring gifts. Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else. Y’all have a Merry Christmas. Kerry From: Ormsby, Matthew A Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail. Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. Have a great week. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Fwd: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas
Actually, I haven't seen it. But if anyone has recently, can he answer Dave's question? -- Mixon Begin forwarded message: From: DAVID WHITACRE david.whita...@boiseschools.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: December 11, 2012 11:07:51 AM CST To: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu Subject: Question about swifts at El Aguacero, Chiapas Hi Bill, I wonder if you know who could answer this question for me: I studied the mexican cave-dwelling swifts for my dissertation (at Golondrinas, etc.), and one of my main study colonies was at the popular tourist attraction El Aguacero, near Ocozocuatla, Chiapas. You've probably been there--it's a waterfall along the Rio La Venta. My question is whether there is still a swift colony there. I've pulled up a lot of photos of El Aguacero from the web, and none of them show any swifts flying around, and I don't get any web hits searching on the appropriate wording either. Any clues as to who has been there recently would be very helpful. Thanks, Dave Whitacre A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
[Texascavers] WNS
Interesting article. Finding Geomyces destructans was discovering the bullet. This may be the gun. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/research-on-stricken-bats-may-help-aids-fight/2012/12/09/8cc93ab8-38cc-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_story.html Josh
[Texascavers] TSS work session tomorrow
Cavers, Our next scheduled second Wednesday work session of the Texas Speleological Survey will be on December 12, tomorrow night, at the JJ Pickle Research Center. We will look for the Airman's Cave map and help TCMA with research on one of its preserves. Come out and help. Use the front entrance on Burnet Road north of highway 183. Both publication sales and the library will be open. The door will be open at 5:00 p.m. and stay open till we adjourn. Remember it is best to arrive before 6:00 pm and drinks are on me. You may also search the files for your favorite caves. If you have a desire to see the files and unpublished maps, come by and take a look. If you have questions, please contact me at mailto:ronra...@austin.rr.com ronra...@austin.rr.com or call my cell. I will be happy to send you a link to the map of the Campus if you need directions. Ron Ralph Cell: 797-3817
[Texascavers] Research on stricken bats may help AIDS fight
That news item is a typical attempt by a scientist to attach his pet project to some other popular and hopefully well-funded goal. (You've no doubt noticed that every other biological discovery is a possible cure for cancer.) AIDS deaths are not caused by the immune system going berserk, but by its eventually being destroyed by the HIV. Some diseases are made worse by immune-overreaction, though. Is it even true that deaths from WNS are caused by immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome? The description in the news item doesn't sound much like what is actually observed, but then press releases are usually written by some publicist who doesn't know anything about the subject. -- Mixon A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [PBSS] December Meeting
Well that sounds like an idea--I have not been to Parks Ranch for years and years. J. On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Kerry Lowery wrote: Sound as if it is gonna be hard to organize a party for Christmas. Lets plan a late winter / early spring caving party to Abyss, Ess or even Parks Ranch for the last weekend in Febuary. Which coincidentally is the next available weekend off at this moment. We could even bring gifts. Just my thoughts, chances are I wouldn’t be able to attend anything else. Y’all have a Merry Christmas. Kerry From: Ormsby, Matthew A Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:36 PM To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net Subject: [PBSS] December Meeting Cavers, There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to this e-mail. Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. Have a great week. Matthew Ormsby PBSS President /preThe contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only.brOnly the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone./pre ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
