[Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Cool, huh?
RE: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
A link would have been helpful: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/extreme-cave-diving.html. Note that this is a repeat, and is available online. Mark At 03:54 AM 5/30/2013, Don Cooper wrote: Cool, huh? Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
You wear a Red Bull wetsuit, and get into the cave by jumping fully geared up from a helicopter hovering 1000 ft above a cenote. Of course, you need a GoPro attached to your helmet. - Fofo On 30/05/13 07:28, Stefan Creaser wrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 -0000 Issue 1766
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 - Issue 1766 Topics (messages 21858 through 21866): Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th 21858 by: Andrea Croskrey 21859 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 16th ICS 21860 by: Michael Cicherski Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving 21861 by: Don Cooper 21862 by: Stefan Creaser 21863 by: Don Cooper 21864 by: Mark Minton 21865 by: Fofo trip report on J2 21866 by: Mixon Bill Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- If you will be attending the 16th ICS would you please contact me. I need someone to carry an envelope to Zdenek Motycka. Michael Cicherski coastalca...@me.com---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Cool, huh? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject:
[Texascavers] presentation on Huautla 2013
For those who didn't see it: There is an excellent presentation about the Cave Diving Group's expedition to Sótano de San Agustín in Sistema Huautla in 2013 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4vh6zvBpk. Terry Holsinger prepared the vido, over an hour long, from a PowerPoint presentation that Chris Jewell, leader of the expedition, presented at the UT Grotto meeting on April 17 when he was in Austin packing up gear for shipment back to the UK. There are some video clips in the show. -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Geological Society of America Karst Sessions: highlight on Transport and Transformation of Non-Solute Materials in Karst Aquifers
Dear Friends, The next Geological Society of America Convention will be held this Denver, Colorado on 27-30 October. Six topical sessions on caves and karst are offered this year, all sponsored by NCKRI. Following is a message from Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper, with a special invitation asking you to consider submitting abstracts to their session. Afterward is a summary of the other sessions offered. Please consider submitting an abstract to our proposed session for the 2013 GSA Annual Meeting, 27-30 October:TRANSPORT AND TRANSFORMATION OF NON-SOLUTE MATERIALS IN KARST AQUIFER. Our purpose in this session is to focus on innovative studies and techniques related to non-solute materials in karst waters. In particular, we encourage the submission of abstracts related to sediments, particulate tracers, contaminants (especially non-aqueous phase liquids), and biota. We hope that this session will help integrate across the research in these areas and that we can all learn from the overlap in techniques and applications. We are pleased to have confirmation from the following invited speakers: Michiel Pronk, Centre for Hydrogeology and Geothermics CHYN, Univ. of Neuchâtel Ingrid Padilla, Dept. of Civil Eng. and Surveying, Univ. Puerto Rico Mayagüez Ben Schwartz, Dept. of Geology, Texas State Univ. Look for Session # T63. The deadline for submission is Tuesday, August 6. http://community.geosociety.org/2013AnnualMeeting/ Regards, Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper - Also offered at GSA Convention this year are the following sessions: T58. 125 Years Underground: A Retrospective and Prospective of Cave and Karst Research GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division George Veni, Lewis Land Caves and karst were once viewed as geologic curiosities but are now recognized as important features and terrains. This session reviews 125 years of cave/karst science, emphasizing the last 50 years, and looks toward future advancements. T59. Assessing Hazards and Groundwater Contamination in Karst GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Yongli Gao Groundwater contamination and hazards such as sinkholes are the two most common environmental concerns in karst lands. This session focuses on advancements in technology and approaches for hazard assessment and contamination investigation in karst areas. T60. Caves as Deep Time Repositories of Geological, Biological, and Anthropological Information GSA Hydrogeology Division; Geochemical Society; GSA Archaeological Geology Division; GSA Geobiology Geomicrobiology Division; GSA Geology and Society Division; GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Mineralogy, Geochemistry, Petrology, and Volcanology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; GSA Sedimentary Geology Division; Mineralogical Society of America; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); SEPM (Society for Sedimentary Geology) Joshua M. Feinberg, E. Calvin Alexander Jr Caves serve as deep time repositories of scientific information. This session welcomes contributions utilizing cave deposits to create time series of original data that capture information about the evolution of geologic, biologic, and anthropological systems. T61. Karst 2.0: Orogenies and Glaciers and Faulting-Oh My! The Impact of Changing Geologic Conditions on Existing Karst Terrane and the New Tools and Techniques We Have to Study It GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Cory W. Blackeagle Once established, how does karst terrain change in response to subsequent changes in its region's geologic setting? How are those changes from initial conditions recognized? What cutting-edge technologies are being used in karst research today? T62. The Epikarst as a Boundary and Critical Zone GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Benjamin F. Schwartz, Madeline E. Schreiber We welcome work on epikarst, including modeling, field studies, and novel method developments, that advances our understanding of hydrobiogeochemical processes, physical constraints, and environmental controls on epikarst function as a surface-subsurface boundary and critical zone. T123. Geology in the National Parks: Research, Mapping, and Resource Management GSA Geophysics Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Bruce Heise, Jason P. Kenworthy, Timothy B. Connors This session addresses the role of geoscience in the U.S. National Parks. Presentations are invited on geologic research, geologic mapping, paleontology, coastal geology,
Re: [SWR] Fwd: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns
Hi All: Its 3 classes, from 1-3pm on Tuesdays, at the Continuing Ed Bldg. on University Ave. Here is a schedule. 1. Class #1, June 11th. Speleogenesis (how the sulfuric acid mechanism for Carlsbad other Guad caves was discovered). 2. Class #2, June 18th. Cave minerals and speleothems - how they form. 3. Class #3, June 25th. NOVA video: Mysterious Life of Caves. Guest speakers: Penny Boston and Diane Northup talking about the microbiology of caves. Hope you can make it. Carol P.S. You must be 50 and over to register for Osher. THANKS LINDA! In a message dated 5/29/2013 8:13:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, lstarr...@gmail.com writes: Albuquerque area cavers who are 50 +, Here's a message from Carol Hill if you are looking to improve your knowledge through UNM Continuing Ed. On a web site Carol listed for Osher, you can see other courses besides Carol's. I checked the web site but did not see her courses listed, but there was one called Geology of Carlsbad Caverns. The cost is a steep $35. I'm not sure if it's one session or 3. You'll have to call the number she lists for information and registration. It's 505-277-0077. The website is www.dce.unm.edu.Click on the Osher link and check it out. Good luck. I will probably call to get the straight poop. They show an annual membership cost of $20. Call the number and decide if it's worth it to ya. Linda Starr -- Forwarded message -- From: _Carolannhill@aol.com_ (mailto:carolannh...@aol.com) Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM Subject: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns To: _lstarr509@gmail.com_ (mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com) 5/29/13 Hi Linda: I will be teaching a class for UNM Continuing Ed (Osher)/Story of New Mexico on June 11-18-25th, Tuesday,1-3 pm. Pete Lindsley will be video taping it for NCKRI, who want it for their archives. Here is the schedule: June 11th. Speleogenesis of Carlsbad Caverns June 18th. Mineralogy of Carlsbad Caverns. June 25th. NOVA show Mysterious Life of Caves At any rate, I thought that some of the grotto cavers might be interested in attending, and that you could pass the word to them. However, if they are interested, they must be over 50 years old and sign up with Osher (on the web) + pay the class fee (I don't know how much it is, but probably not much). Also, maybe some of the older Ft. Stanton people living in Albuquerque might want to attend? Thanks, Carol ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Cool, huh?
RE: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
A link would have been helpful: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/extreme-cave-diving.html. Note that this is a repeat, and is available online. Mark At 03:54 AM 5/30/2013, Don Cooper wrote: Cool, huh? Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
You wear a Red Bull wetsuit, and get into the cave by jumping fully geared up from a helicopter hovering 1000 ft above a cenote. Of course, you need a GoPro attached to your helmet. - Fofo On 30/05/13 07:28, Stefan Creaser wrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 -0000 Issue 1766
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 - Issue 1766 Topics (messages 21858 through 21866): Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th 21858 by: Andrea Croskrey 21859 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 16th ICS 21860 by: Michael Cicherski Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving 21861 by: Don Cooper 21862 by: Stefan Creaser 21863 by: Don Cooper 21864 by: Mark Minton 21865 by: Fofo trip report on J2 21866 by: Mixon Bill Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- If you will be attending the 16th ICS would you please contact me. I need someone to carry an envelope to Zdenek Motycka. Michael Cicherski coastalca...@me.com---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Cool, huh? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject:
[Texascavers] presentation on Huautla 2013
For those who didn't see it: There is an excellent presentation about the Cave Diving Group's expedition to Sótano de San Agustín in Sistema Huautla in 2013 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4vh6zvBpk. Terry Holsinger prepared the vido, over an hour long, from a PowerPoint presentation that Chris Jewell, leader of the expedition, presented at the UT Grotto meeting on April 17 when he was in Austin packing up gear for shipment back to the UK. There are some video clips in the show. -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Geological Society of America Karst Sessions: highlight on Transport and Transformation of Non-Solute Materials in Karst Aquifers
Dear Friends, The next Geological Society of America Convention will be held this Denver, Colorado on 27-30 October. Six topical sessions on caves and karst are offered this year, all sponsored by NCKRI. Following is a message from Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper, with a special invitation asking you to consider submitting abstracts to their session. Afterward is a summary of the other sessions offered. Please consider submitting an abstract to our proposed session for the 2013 GSA Annual Meeting, 27-30 October:TRANSPORT AND TRANSFORMATION OF NON-SOLUTE MATERIALS IN KARST AQUIFER. Our purpose in this session is to focus on innovative studies and techniques related to non-solute materials in karst waters. In particular, we encourage the submission of abstracts related to sediments, particulate tracers, contaminants (especially non-aqueous phase liquids), and biota. We hope that this session will help integrate across the research in these areas and that we can all learn from the overlap in techniques and applications. We are pleased to have confirmation from the following invited speakers: Michiel Pronk, Centre for Hydrogeology and Geothermics CHYN, Univ. of Neuchâtel Ingrid Padilla, Dept. of Civil Eng. and Surveying, Univ. Puerto Rico Mayagüez Ben Schwartz, Dept. of Geology, Texas State Univ. Look for Session # T63. The deadline for submission is Tuesday, August 6. http://community.geosociety.org/2013AnnualMeeting/ Regards, Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper - Also offered at GSA Convention this year are the following sessions: T58. 125 Years Underground: A Retrospective and Prospective of Cave and Karst Research GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division George Veni, Lewis Land Caves and karst were once viewed as geologic curiosities but are now recognized as important features and terrains. This session reviews 125 years of cave/karst science, emphasizing the last 50 years, and looks toward future advancements. T59. Assessing Hazards and Groundwater Contamination in Karst GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Yongli Gao Groundwater contamination and hazards such as sinkholes are the two most common environmental concerns in karst lands. This session focuses on advancements in technology and approaches for hazard assessment and contamination investigation in karst areas. T60. Caves as Deep Time Repositories of Geological, Biological, and Anthropological Information GSA Hydrogeology Division; Geochemical Society; GSA Archaeological Geology Division; GSA Geobiology Geomicrobiology Division; GSA Geology and Society Division; GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Mineralogy, Geochemistry, Petrology, and Volcanology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; GSA Sedimentary Geology Division; Mineralogical Society of America; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); SEPM (Society for Sedimentary Geology) Joshua M. Feinberg, E. Calvin Alexander Jr Caves serve as deep time repositories of scientific information. This session welcomes contributions utilizing cave deposits to create time series of original data that capture information about the evolution of geologic, biologic, and anthropological systems. T61. Karst 2.0: Orogenies and Glaciers and Faulting-Oh My! The Impact of Changing Geologic Conditions on Existing Karst Terrane and the New Tools and Techniques We Have to Study It GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Cory W. Blackeagle Once established, how does karst terrain change in response to subsequent changes in its region's geologic setting? How are those changes from initial conditions recognized? What cutting-edge technologies are being used in karst research today? T62. The Epikarst as a Boundary and Critical Zone GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Benjamin F. Schwartz, Madeline E. Schreiber We welcome work on epikarst, including modeling, field studies, and novel method developments, that advances our understanding of hydrobiogeochemical processes, physical constraints, and environmental controls on epikarst function as a surface-subsurface boundary and critical zone. T123. Geology in the National Parks: Research, Mapping, and Resource Management GSA Geophysics Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Bruce Heise, Jason P. Kenworthy, Timothy B. Connors This session addresses the role of geoscience in the U.S. National Parks. Presentations are invited on geologic research, geologic mapping, paleontology, coastal geology,
[Texascavers] trip report on J2
The most extensive material I've seen so far on the 2013 J2 expedition is a trip report at http://www.crazycaver.com/content/j2-mexico-2013 -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [SWR] Fwd: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns
Hi All: Its 3 classes, from 1-3pm on Tuesdays, at the Continuing Ed Bldg. on University Ave. Here is a schedule. 1. Class #1, June 11th. Speleogenesis (how the sulfuric acid mechanism for Carlsbad other Guad caves was discovered). 2. Class #2, June 18th. Cave minerals and speleothems - how they form. 3. Class #3, June 25th. NOVA video: Mysterious Life of Caves. Guest speakers: Penny Boston and Diane Northup talking about the microbiology of caves. Hope you can make it. Carol P.S. You must be 50 and over to register for Osher. THANKS LINDA! In a message dated 5/29/2013 8:13:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, lstarr...@gmail.com writes: Albuquerque area cavers who are 50 +, Here's a message from Carol Hill if you are looking to improve your knowledge through UNM Continuing Ed. On a web site Carol listed for Osher, you can see other courses besides Carol's. I checked the web site but did not see her courses listed, but there was one called Geology of Carlsbad Caverns. The cost is a steep $35. I'm not sure if it's one session or 3. You'll have to call the number she lists for information and registration. It's 505-277-0077. The website is www.dce.unm.edu.Click on the Osher link and check it out. Good luck. I will probably call to get the straight poop. They show an annual membership cost of $20. Call the number and decide if it's worth it to ya. Linda Starr -- Forwarded message -- From: _Carolannhill@aol.com_ (mailto:carolannh...@aol.com) List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM Subject: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns To: _lstarr509@gmail.com_ (mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com) 5/29/13 Hi Linda: I will be teaching a class for UNM Continuing Ed (Osher)/Story of New Mexico on June 11-18-25th, Tuesday,1-3 pm. Pete Lindsley will be video taping it for NCKRI, who want it for their archives. Here is the schedule: June 11th. Speleogenesis of Carlsbad Caverns June 18th. Mineralogy of Carlsbad Caverns. June 25th. NOVA show Mysterious Life of Caves At any rate, I thought that some of the grotto cavers might be interested in attending, and that you could pass the word to them. However, if they are interested, they must be over 50 years old and sign up with Osher (on the web) + pay the class fee (I don't know how much it is, but probably not much). Also, maybe some of the older Ft. Stanton people living in Albuquerque might want to attend? Thanks, Carol ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
[Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Cool, huh?
RE: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
A link would have been helpful: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/extreme-cave-diving.html. Note that this is a repeat, and is available online. Mark At 03:54 AM 5/30/2013, Don Cooper wrote: Cool, huh? Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving
You wear a Red Bull wetsuit, and get into the cave by jumping fully geared up from a helicopter hovering 1000 ft above a cenote. Of course, you need a GoPro attached to your helmet. - Fofo On 30/05/13 07:28, Stefan Creaser wrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 -0000 Issue 1766
texascavers Digest 30 May 2013 16:49:17 - Issue 1766 Topics (messages 21858 through 21866): Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th 21858 by: Andrea Croskrey 21859 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com 16th ICS 21860 by: Michael Cicherski Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving 21861 by: Don Cooper 21862 by: Stefan Creaser 21863 by: Don Cooper 21864 by: Mark Minton 21865 by: Fofo trip report on J2 21866 by: Mixon Bill Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Sounds like three excellent articles for the TEXAS CAVER! J Mark From: Andrea Croskrey [mailto:acrosk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:15 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Re: UT Grotto Meeting May 29th I also forgot to mention that Ron Rutherford will be showing a few photos from caving in the U.K. On May 28, 2013 10:43 AM, Andrea Croskrey acrosk...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy Texas Cavers, This week at the UT Grotto will be have two short talks for the presentation. Aubri Jensen will be sharing pictures and tales from the recreational caving trip to O-9 Well this spring and David Ochel will present photos and stories from his recent caving and canyoneering adventures in San Luis Potosi and Querétaro (Mexico). UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM University of Texas Campus in 2.48 Painter Hall (156 West 24th Street, Austin TX 78712) http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. This area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- If you will be attending the 16th ICS would you please contact me. I need someone to carry an envelope to Zdenek Motycka. Michael Cicherski coastalca...@me.com---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Cool, huh? ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Coming Soon on NOVA - Extreme Cave Diving Cool, huh? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I don't know what the date is - the trailer was shown at the end of Nova's 'Oklahoma Tornado Massacre'. I'm guessing it will be on next Wednesday night. (When PBS shows the newest NOVA specials here in Austin). -WaV On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Extreme cave diving? Is that like cave diving but without an air supply? S. From: Don Cooper [wavyca...@gmail.com] Sent: 30 May 2013 02:54 To: Cavers, Texas Subject:
[Texascavers] presentation on Huautla 2013
For those who didn't see it: There is an excellent presentation about the Cave Diving Group's expedition to Sótano de San Agustín in Sistema Huautla in 2013 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4vh6zvBpk. Terry Holsinger prepared the vido, over an hour long, from a PowerPoint presentation that Chris Jewell, leader of the expedition, presented at the UT Grotto meeting on April 17 when he was in Austin packing up gear for shipment back to the UK. There are some video clips in the show. -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Geological Society of America Karst Sessions: highlight on Transport and Transformation of Non-Solute Materials in Karst Aquifers
Dear Friends, The next Geological Society of America Convention will be held this Denver, Colorado on 27-30 October. Six topical sessions on caves and karst are offered this year, all sponsored by NCKRI. Following is a message from Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper, with a special invitation asking you to consider submitting abstracts to their session. Afterward is a summary of the other sessions offered. Please consider submitting an abstract to our proposed session for the 2013 GSA Annual Meeting, 27-30 October:TRANSPORT AND TRANSFORMATION OF NON-SOLUTE MATERIALS IN KARST AQUIFER. Our purpose in this session is to focus on innovative studies and techniques related to non-solute materials in karst waters. In particular, we encourage the submission of abstracts related to sediments, particulate tracers, contaminants (especially non-aqueous phase liquids), and biota. We hope that this session will help integrate across the research in these areas and that we can all learn from the overlap in techniques and applications. We are pleased to have confirmation from the following invited speakers: Michiel Pronk, Centre for Hydrogeology and Geothermics CHYN, Univ. of Neuchâtel Ingrid Padilla, Dept. of Civil Eng. and Surveying, Univ. Puerto Rico Mayagüez Ben Schwartz, Dept. of Geology, Texas State Univ. Look for Session # T63. The deadline for submission is Tuesday, August 6. http://community.geosociety.org/2013AnnualMeeting/ Regards, Ellen Herman, Michael Sinreich, and Dorothy Vesper - Also offered at GSA Convention this year are the following sessions: T58. 125 Years Underground: A Retrospective and Prospective of Cave and Karst Research GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division George Veni, Lewis Land Caves and karst were once viewed as geologic curiosities but are now recognized as important features and terrains. This session reviews 125 years of cave/karst science, emphasizing the last 50 years, and looks toward future advancements. T59. Assessing Hazards and Groundwater Contamination in Karst GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Yongli Gao Groundwater contamination and hazards such as sinkholes are the two most common environmental concerns in karst lands. This session focuses on advancements in technology and approaches for hazard assessment and contamination investigation in karst areas. T60. Caves as Deep Time Repositories of Geological, Biological, and Anthropological Information GSA Hydrogeology Division; Geochemical Society; GSA Archaeological Geology Division; GSA Geobiology Geomicrobiology Division; GSA Geology and Society Division; GSA Geophysics Division; GSA Mineralogy, Geochemistry, Petrology, and Volcanology Division; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; GSA Sedimentary Geology Division; Mineralogical Society of America; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI); SEPM (Society for Sedimentary Geology) Joshua M. Feinberg, E. Calvin Alexander Jr Caves serve as deep time repositories of scientific information. This session welcomes contributions utilizing cave deposits to create time series of original data that capture information about the evolution of geologic, biologic, and anthropological systems. T61. Karst 2.0: Orogenies and Glaciers and Faulting-Oh My! The Impact of Changing Geologic Conditions on Existing Karst Terrane and the New Tools and Techniques We Have to Study It GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Cory W. Blackeagle Once established, how does karst terrain change in response to subsequent changes in its region's geologic setting? How are those changes from initial conditions recognized? What cutting-edge technologies are being used in karst research today? T62. The Epikarst as a Boundary and Critical Zone GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Benjamin F. Schwartz, Madeline E. Schreiber We welcome work on epikarst, including modeling, field studies, and novel method developments, that advances our understanding of hydrobiogeochemical processes, physical constraints, and environmental controls on epikarst function as a surface-subsurface boundary and critical zone. T123. Geology in the National Parks: Research, Mapping, and Resource Management GSA Geophysics Division; National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) Bruce Heise, Jason P. Kenworthy, Timothy B. Connors This session addresses the role of geoscience in the U.S. National Parks. Presentations are invited on geologic research, geologic mapping, paleontology, coastal geology,
[Texascavers] trip report on J2
The most extensive material I've seen so far on the 2013 J2 expedition is a trip report at http://www.crazycaver.com/content/j2-mexico-2013 -- Mixon Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [SWR] Fwd: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns
Hi All: Its 3 classes, from 1-3pm on Tuesdays, at the Continuing Ed Bldg. on University Ave. Here is a schedule. 1. Class #1, June 11th. Speleogenesis (how the sulfuric acid mechanism for Carlsbad other Guad caves was discovered). 2. Class #2, June 18th. Cave minerals and speleothems - how they form. 3. Class #3, June 25th. NOVA video: Mysterious Life of Caves. Guest speakers: Penny Boston and Diane Northup talking about the microbiology of caves. Hope you can make it. Carol P.S. You must be 50 and over to register for Osher. THANKS LINDA! In a message dated 5/29/2013 8:13:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, lstarr...@gmail.com writes: Albuquerque area cavers who are 50 +, Here's a message from Carol Hill if you are looking to improve your knowledge through UNM Continuing Ed. On a web site Carol listed for Osher, you can see other courses besides Carol's. I checked the web site but did not see her courses listed, but there was one called Geology of Carlsbad Caverns. The cost is a steep $35. I'm not sure if it's one session or 3. You'll have to call the number she lists for information and registration. It's 505-277-0077. The website is www.dce.unm.edu.Click on the Osher link and check it out. Good luck. I will probably call to get the straight poop. They show an annual membership cost of $20. Call the number and decide if it's worth it to ya. Linda Starr -- Forwarded message -- From: _Carolannhill@aol.com_ (mailto:carolannh...@aol.com) List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:32 AM Subject: UNM Continuing Ed/Story of NM: The Geology of Carlsbad Caverns To: _lstarr509@gmail.com_ (mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com) 5/29/13 Hi Linda: I will be teaching a class for UNM Continuing Ed (Osher)/Story of New Mexico on June 11-18-25th, Tuesday,1-3 pm. Pete Lindsley will be video taping it for NCKRI, who want it for their archives. Here is the schedule: June 11th. Speleogenesis of Carlsbad Caverns June 18th. Mineralogy of Carlsbad Caverns. June 25th. NOVA show Mysterious Life of Caves At any rate, I thought that some of the grotto cavers might be interested in attending, and that you could pass the word to them. However, if they are interested, they must be over 50 years old and sign up with Osher (on the web) + pay the class fee (I don't know how much it is, but probably not much). Also, maybe some of the older Ft. Stanton people living in Albuquerque might want to attend? Thanks, Carol ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
