Re: [Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[George D. Nincehelser]

The radio interview on this page is pretty interesting.

http://kfyo.com/lubbocks-secret-tunnel-mystery-deepens/




On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Bill Bentley  wrote:

> **
> From Jacqui Thomas
>
> Lubbock.
>
>  LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -
>
> KCBD 11 in Lubbock
>
>
> A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.
>
> Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his
> yard collapsed.
>
> "We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system
> and everything sank," Smithwick said.
>
> Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.
>
> He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they
> discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.
>
> Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.
>
> Now the question is, who built it?
>
> Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for
> themselves.
>
> "First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel.
> Nobody knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking
> maybe it's associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at
> an underground tunnel for 100 years."
>
> Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears
> the tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.
>
> He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday
> to figure out if they need take action.
>
> The area has been marked off with caution tape.
>
> We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD
> NewsChannel 11.
> *
> *
>
> Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11
> Lubbock
>
> Jacqui
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>  Probably Bill's private cave.
>
> Sent via C=64 Mobile
>
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery" 
> wrote:
>
>   A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in
> Midland where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they
> found a tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no
> report of this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had
> heard this?
>
> Kerry
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texascavers Digest 7 Sep 2013 04:16:50 -0000 Issue 1838

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texascavers Digest 7 Sep 2013 04:16:50 - Issue 1838

Topics (messages 22595 through 22606):

cave gating help
22595 by: Jim Kennedy

Re: Non Cave related--Concrete arrows - interesting.
22596 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net

Re: TSA Elections
22597 by: ellie.thoene.gmail.com
22598 by: Bill Steele
22599 by: Julia Germany
22600 by: Julia Germany
22602 by: Jim Kennedy

NSS News - September issue
22601 by: David

Caver-robot future related
22603 by: David

Mallory Update, Thursday, Sept.5, 2013
22604 by: Emily McGowan

LNF sinkhole accident link
22605 by: Bill Bentley

Possible sinkhole / tunnel
22606 by: Bill Bentley

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offlist, please.

 

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I ran across  a couple of them when I was working on a seismograph crew in 
southern Wyoming the winter of 1959-60.  None of us knew what they were, but 
our landman figured it out. 



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Texas Cavers, 

I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA 
elections! 

Candidates:

Chairman- Kurt Menking
Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
Secretary -Heather Tucek
Treasurer- Anne Scott

I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you 
need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now. 

Ellie Watson
TSA Nomination Chair 

On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson  wrote:

> Texas Cavers,
> 
> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological 
> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I have 
> volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has agreed to 
> assist on the committee.
> 
> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me. 
> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all 
> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member, and 
> you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA. 
> 
> Officers positions:
> 
> Chairman- OPEN
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- OPEN
> 
> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek 
> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions are 
> OPEN open for 2014. 
> 
> Thank you to all current officers for your service. 
> 
> My goal is to run an electronic ballot near the beginning of October.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Ellie Watson
> TSA Election Committee Chair.
> The Texas Speleological Association is a Regional Association of the National 
> Speleological Society. The purposes of TSA are to promote the study and 
> science of speleology, the protection of caves and the preservation of 
> natural and cultural resources within caves, the education of members and the 
> general public, and communication and coordination of speleological 
> activities in the State of Texas. TSA supports the aims and goals of the 
> National Speleological Society.
> 
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Wow! Best yet! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

> Texas Cavers, 
> 
> I am happy to announce a full slate of candidates for the upcoming TSA 
> elections! 
> 
> Candidates:
> 
> Chairman- Kurt Menking
> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
> Secretary -Heather Tucek
> Treasurer- Anne Scott
> 
> I will be soon be announcing electronic elections to current members. If you 
> need a ballot mailed to you, please let me know now. 
> 
> Ellie Watson
> TSA Nomination Chair 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2013, at 5:04 PM, ellie watson  wrote:
> 
>> Texas Cavers,
>> 
>> I am opening up the floor for nominations for the Texas Speleological 
>> Association(TSA), for the annual election of officers for 2014 year. I have 
>> volunteered to serve as Election Committee Chair and Mark Alman has agreed 
>> to assist on the committee.
>> 
>> You may choose to nominate yourself or recommend quality candidates to me. 
>> Officer nominations may be made by any TSA member. Please have all 
>> nominations to me by Friday, August 23rd, 2013. If you are not a member, and 
>> you want to be involved, you still have time to join TSA. 
>> 
>> Officers positions:
>> 
>> Chairman- OPEN
>> Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore
>> Secretary -Heather Tucek
>> Treasurer- OPEN
>> 
>> Roger Moore volunteerded to run again for Vice-Chairman and Heather Tucek 
>> volunteered to run again for Secretary. Chairman and Treasurer positions are 
>> OPEN open for 2014. 
>> 
>> Thank you to all current officers for your service. 
>> 
>> My

[Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Bill Bentley]

>From Jacqui Thomas

Lubbock.


LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -KCBD 11 in Lubbock




A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

"We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank," Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

"First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years."

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.





Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock


Jacqui




On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:


  Probably Bill's private cave. 

  Sent via C=64 Mobile

  On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:


A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?

Kerry
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[Texascavers] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Bill Bentley]

>From Jacqui Thomas

Lubbock.


LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -KCBD 11 in Lubbock




A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

"We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank," Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

"First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years."

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.





Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock


Jacqui




On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:


  Probably Bill's private cave. 

  Sent via C=64 Mobile

  On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:


A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?

Kerry
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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Bill Bentley]

Had me worried for a few and I went down and checked my private cave is just 
fine... Charles, how did you know?
  - Original Message - 
  From: whoop . 
  To: Charles Goldsmith ; Kerry Lowery 
  Cc: p...@caver.net 
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


  I'm in San Antonio, and saw a brief blurb on our local news.  Heard it was in 
Lubbock.  Said they suspected the tunnel was associated with the Railroad, but 
not yet sure how (or if, for certain).  It looked like the tunnel was partially 
supported by Railroad ties, not sure if that's the only reason for the 
association..?
   
  A quick Google of "Lubbock tunnel" returns several links, I haven't 
investigated further than that.
   
  David O.
   


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  Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


  Probably Bill's private cave. 

  Sent via C=64 Mobile

  On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:


A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?

Kerry
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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Bill Bentley]

Had me worried for a few and I went down and checked my private cave is just 
fine... Charles, how did you know?
  - Original Message - 
  From: whoop . 
  To: Charles Goldsmith ; Kerry Lowery 
  Cc: p...@caver.net 
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


  I'm in San Antonio, and saw a brief blurb on our local news.  Heard it was in 
Lubbock.  Said they suspected the tunnel was associated with the Railroad, but 
not yet sure how (or if, for certain).  It looked like the tunnel was partially 
supported by Railroad ties, not sure if that's the only reason for the 
association..?
   
  A quick Google of "Lubbock tunnel" returns several links, I haven't 
investigated further than that.
   
  David O.
   


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  Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


  Probably Bill's private cave. 

  Sent via C=64 Mobile

  On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:


A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?

Kerry
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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Lubbock.

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -
KCBD 11 in Lubbock



A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

"We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank," Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

"First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years."

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.



Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock

Jacqui


On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> Probably Bill's private cave. 
> 
> Sent via C=64 Mobile
> 
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:
> 
>> A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
>> where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
>> tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
>> this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
>>  
>> Kerry
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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Jacqueline Thomas]

Lubbock.

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) -
KCBD 11 in Lubbock



A mystery tunnel is creating quite a buzz in a north Lubbock neighborhood.

Lee Smithwick discovered it on his property this week, when part of his yard 
collapsed.

"We were watering the yard and we came out and the whole sprinkler system and 
everything sank," Smithwick said.

Smithwick says he thought it was a sinkhole, but then he saw railroad ties.

He alerted fire and police departments and upon further examination, they 
discovered it was a hidden tunnel, braced with railroad ties.

Apparently one broke, causing the collapse.

Now the question is, who built it?

Smithwick says local historians have come out to see the tunnel for themselves.

"First they thought it might be a bunker, but it's definitely a tunnel. Nobody 
knows who built it or why they would build it. They're thinking maybe it's 
associated with the railroad back in 1909, but you're looking at an underground 
tunnel for 100 years."

Smithwick says they've drilled a few holes in the ground, and it appears the 
tunnel runs underneath the road in front of his house.

He says city inspectors have also come out, and they're meeting Thursday to 
figure out if they need take action.

The area has been marked off with caution tape.

We'll continue to follow this story online and on the air at KCBD NewsChannel 
11.



Lubbock man discovers mystery tunnel under his house - KCBD NewsChannel 11 
Lubbock

Jacqui


On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> Probably Bill's private cave. 
> 
> Sent via C=64 Mobile
> 
> On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:
> 
>> A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
>> where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
>> tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
>> this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
>>  
>> Kerry
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[whoop .]

I'm in San Antonio, and saw a brief blurb on our local news.  Heard it was in 
Lubbock.  Said they suspected the tunnel was associated with the Railroad, but 
not yet sure how (or if, for certain).  It looked like the tunnel was partially 
supported by Railroad ties, not sure if that's the only reason for the 
association..?

 

A quick Google of "Lubbock tunnel" returns several links, I haven't 
investigated further than that.

 

David O.
 



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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:38:31 -0500
To: klowe...@suddenlink.net
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Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


Probably Bill's private cave. 

Sent via C=64 Mobile

On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:






A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
 
Kerry

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[whoop .]

I'm in San Antonio, and saw a brief blurb on our local news.  Heard it was in 
Lubbock.  Said they suspected the tunnel was associated with the Railroad, but 
not yet sure how (or if, for certain).  It looked like the tunnel was partially 
supported by Railroad ties, not sure if that's the only reason for the 
association..?

 

A quick Google of "Lubbock tunnel" returns several links, I haven't 
investigated further than that.

 

David O.
 



From: wo...@justfamily.org
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:38:31 -0500
To: klowe...@suddenlink.net
CC: p...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel


Probably Bill's private cave. 

Sent via C=64 Mobile

On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:






A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
 
Kerry

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Re: [PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Charles Goldsmith]

Probably Bill's private cave. 

Sent via C=64 Mobile

On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:

> A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
> where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
> tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
> this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
>  
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[Charles Goldsmith]

Probably Bill's private cave. 

Sent via C=64 Mobile

On Sep 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Kerry Lowery"  wrote:

> A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
> where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a 
> tunnel and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of 
> this on the local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?
>  
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[PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Kerry Lowery]

A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
local stations web sites.  Curious if anyone else had heard this?

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[PBSS] Possible sinkhole / tunnel

[Kerry Lowery]

A fella at work was telling me, he heard on the news, of a house in Midland 
where a sinkhole formed in the back yard.  Upon inspection they found a tunnel 
and were able to follow it about 1/8 of a mile.  I see no report of this on the 
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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Carl Pagano]

Answer is plain and simple. The world is starting to de-dilate. Reference 
Donald Davis's cave dilation theory.
On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Louise Power wrote:

> I just read online that a sinkhole in Oklahoma swallowed a car--all 
> passengers OK. This one was due to a broken waterline. Do I detect a trend 
> going on nationwide?
>  
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:21:38 -0600
> From: skin...@thuntek.net
> To: s...@caver.net
> Subject: Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link
> 
> On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:
> Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
> www.currentargus.com
> A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole 
> near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest 
> on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.
> 
> 
> __
> This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?
> 
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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Carl Pagano]

Answer is plain and simple. The world is starting to de-dilate. Reference 
Donald Davis's cave dilation theory.
On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Louise Power wrote:

> I just read online that a sinkhole in Oklahoma swallowed a car--all 
> passengers OK. This one was due to a broken waterline. Do I detect a trend 
> going on nationwide?
>  
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:21:38 -0600
> From: skin...@thuntek.net
> To: s...@caver.net
> Subject: Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link
> 
> On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:
> Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
> www.currentargus.com
> A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole 
> near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest 
> on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.
> 
> 
> __
> This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?
> 
> Lee
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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Louise Power]

I just read online that a sinkhole in Oklahoma swallowed a car--all passengers 
OK. This one was due to a broken waterline. Do I detect a trend going on 
nationwide?
 



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On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:




Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National 
Forestwww.currentargus.com 
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole near 
Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest on 
Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.

 

__This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it 
may be Pinon Cave?

Lee

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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Louise Power]

I just read online that a sinkhole in Oklahoma swallowed a car--all passengers 
OK. This one was due to a broken waterline. Do I detect a trend going on 
nationwide?
 



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Subject: Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link


On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:




Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National 
Forestwww.currentargus.com 
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole near 
Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest on 
Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.

 

__This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it 
may be Pinon Cave?

Lee

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[Texascavers] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Bill Bentley]

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Subject: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link


Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole near 
Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest on 
Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.





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[Texascavers] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Bill Bentley]

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To: NM Caver List 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:24 AM
Subject: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link


Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a sinkhole near 
Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln National Forest on 
Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.





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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Stephen Fleming]

On 09/06/2013 11:21, Lee H. Skinner wrote:

On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:

*Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest*
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a 
sinkhole near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln 
National Forest on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.




__

This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?


Well, if you assume the reporting is accurate (a stretch these days on 
any news), then it's not Piï¿œon. That drop is barely 20 feet. Plus, the 
upper end of Hay Canyon is around 11 miles NW of Piï¿œon.


Perhaps, Bob Rodgers (cc'd) can provide more info on location.

Stephen


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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Stephen Fleming]

On 09/06/2013 11:21, Lee H. Skinner wrote:

On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:

*Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest*
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a 
sinkhole near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln 
National Forest on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.




__

This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?


Well, if you assume the reporting is accurate (a stretch these days on 
any news), then it's not Piï¿œon. That drop is barely 20 feet. Plus, the 
upper end of Hay Canyon is around 11 miles NW of Piï¿œon.


Perhaps, Bob Rodgers (cc'd) can provide more info on location.

Stephen


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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Lee H. Skinner]

On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:

*Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest*
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a 
sinkhole near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln 
National Forest on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.




__

This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?

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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[Lee H. Skinner]

On 9/6/2013 10:24 AM, Carol Belski wrote:

*Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest*
www.currentargus.com
A 40-year-old Lovington man died while attempting to climb down a 
sinkhole near Forest Road 64 at the top of Hay Canyon in the Lincoln 
National Forest on Thursday night, Sheriff Benny House said.




__

This hole should be checked out.  I wonder if it may be Pinon Cave?

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Re: [SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

[dirtdoc]

Cotton rope??  That true? 

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Cotton rope??  That true? 

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[SWR] LNF sinkhole accident link

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Lovington man falls in sinkhole, dies in Lincoln National Forest
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[Texascavers] Mallory Update, Thursday, Sept.5, 2013

[Emily McGowan]

>From her mother:


Good news,  
Mallory is being discharged from Touchstone, Thursday, September 12--next
week. She is thrilled. She hates being at this place, not because it is bad
or the people are not nice. She just has had enough of living in an
institution-as she says it, she is done. She so wants to be home. They had a
meeting today with the doctors, therapists and her ( I was not allowed at
this meeting). We will have a meeting with them before discharge. She is
progressing well with what they focus on in their therapy. They are
adjusting her therapy so it will be more relevant for what she needs to get
back to work and to drive. So the rest of her progress will be accomplished
with time, rest at our house, family, and then back to Houston for
outpatient care at Tirr where she can be in her apartment. I will learn some
more Houston roads. But actually I was getting comfortable with it as long
as I stayed off the Interstate.

All you parents can appreciate this. I had to go back to the hotel late last
night and I receive a text from Mal-"Text me when you are safe in your
room." That was a first. I am the one who asks that. So today I mention how
funny that was. Her response," Mom, you don't understand. I worry." I looked
at her and said, "You don't think we have worried all these years?" Her
response, "Yes, but now I understand how fast something can happen." If they
only knew when they were teenagers. 
 
I am going to have to do some head adjusting. It's going to be rough for me
to let Mal get back into the real world. I suspect I am now a totally
paranoid person. It will be good to get back home and to our world. This
whole time has just been surreal. You want to just wake up and find it
didn't happen. But it did and as Mal keeps saying,"We're all going to be
fine." And she is right. We are so fortunate. I think back on all the
horrible things the doctors said could happen and they didn't. I truly
believe all the prayers and the fine medical staff brought our Mallory back
to us. I could not have done it without all the support you gave. Even when
there was nothing else I needed, knowing that I could ask for help and you
would have been there in a heartbeat was such a consolation. Steve, Caleb,
and I never felt alone. That was a godsend. I learned a lot about reaching
out to people and hope I am a much better person. Good night. I have to go
get the clothes out of the dryer. This is interesting. Washing clothes in a
hotel! 



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[Texascavers] Mallory Update, Thursday, Sept.5, 2013

[Emily McGowan]

>From her mother:


Good news,  
Mallory is being discharged from Touchstone, Thursday, September 12--next
week. She is thrilled. She hates being at this place, not because it is bad
or the people are not nice. She just has had enough of living in an
institution-as she says it, she is done. She so wants to be home. They had a
meeting today with the doctors, therapists and her ( I was not allowed at
this meeting). We will have a meeting with them before discharge. She is
progressing well with what they focus on in their therapy. They are
adjusting her therapy so it will be more relevant for what she needs to get
back to work and to drive. So the rest of her progress will be accomplished
with time, rest at our house, family, and then back to Houston for
outpatient care at Tirr where she can be in her apartment. I will learn some
more Houston roads. But actually I was getting comfortable with it as long
as I stayed off the Interstate.

All you parents can appreciate this. I had to go back to the hotel late last
night and I receive a text from Mal-"Text me when you are safe in your
room." That was a first. I am the one who asks that. So today I mention how
funny that was. Her response," Mom, you don't understand. I worry." I looked
at her and said, "You don't think we have worried all these years?" Her
response, "Yes, but now I understand how fast something can happen." If they
only knew when they were teenagers. 
 
I am going to have to do some head adjusting. It's going to be rough for me
to let Mal get back into the real world. I suspect I am now a totally
paranoid person. It will be good to get back home and to our world. This
whole time has just been surreal. You want to just wake up and find it
didn't happen. But it did and as Mal keeps saying,"We're all going to be
fine." And she is right. We are so fortunate. I think back on all the
horrible things the doctors said could happen and they didn't. I truly
believe all the prayers and the fine medical staff brought our Mallory back
to us. I could not have done it without all the support you gave. Even when
there was nothing else I needed, knowing that I could ask for help and you
would have been there in a heartbeat was such a consolation. Steve, Caleb,
and I never felt alone. That was a godsend. I learned a lot about reaching
out to people and hope I am a much better person. Good night. I have to go
get the clothes out of the dryer. This is interesting. Washing clothes in a
hotel! 



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