RE: [Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project Reports

[Marvin and Lisa]

The climb up Big Dome was 8.5 meters. You can see a picture of John on the
climb here:
http://s799.photobucket.com/user/comalcaver/media/Caving/IMG_1134edited.jpg.
html?sort=3
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From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:59 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project Reports


Marvin,

How high was your climb up Big Dome? Too bad it didn't go. :-(

Mark

At 12:10 AM 1/27/2014, Marvin and Lisa wrote:


John, Angela, and I tag-teamed on the climb. John started and then I made it
to the top on the north end, finding no leads. John traversed from the north
end of the dome to the south end and set a bolt just below the narrow
channel on that side. Angela then climbed up and, using an etrier to boost
herself up into the channel, managed to clamber up to a safe stance where
she could look around. Unfortunately, the channel on that side also did not
lead into any passage. We got some good pics of all the climbers and some
good long-exposure shots of the dome with Angela up there lighting up the
ceiling channels.

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[Texascavers] Flashlight related

[David]

Costco store has a 3-pack that equates to $ 6.12 per flashlight.

These are pocket-sized flashlights, but have a high lumen setting of 250,
and one dimmer setting, which I would guess is 60 lumens.  Also, has strobe
setting.

These appear to be rugged and compact enough as your 3rd source of light.

Price includes quality batteries.

The lights are only resistant to moisture and rain, so in a river cave, you
would want to wrap them in something, or gerry-rig them with a sealant.

See Duracell #739422

( Disclaimer:  I am only viewing the product through the packaging )

It would seem there is no reason to carry a bigger flashlight into a cave,
unless you were in an easy cave with mostly walking passage, or were a tour
guide.  For that purpose, Costco offers a 2-pack that equates to $ 10.80
each.  But even that one, is smaller than the flashlights I used to carry
in my cave-pack back in the 20th century.

I am certain there are experienced cavers that do not take a flashlight
with them now, as they either only use 2 sources of light or carry small or
tiny headlamps in their cave-pack.  I think that has been going on for
years.  Feel free to correct me, as I have done zero caving in this new era
of high-tech headlamps.

David Locklear

[Texascavers] Conference Announcement: Integrated Use and Protection of Underground Spaces

[George Veni]

Dear Friends,

The Integrated Use and Protection of Underground Spaces is a conference that 
will focus on the problems of scientific study and exploitation of underground 
spaces, management, tourism, and recreation in karst areas. It will be held in 
the Perm Region of Russia on 26-31 May 2014 at the spectacular Kungur Ice Cave.

For details on the conference, registration, and to submit papers, visit 
http://www.mi-perm.ru/information/conference/icecave (you'll see Russian text, 
but if you scroll down you'll quickly find the conference information in 
English).

Please share this information with anyone you think may be interested.

Thank you,

George


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
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RE: [Texascavers] new e-book on Lechuguilla Cave

[Stefan Creaser]

Looks like this is also available on iBooks (for Apple stuff), search for 
"Elusive Majesty" and it's the only hit.

I intend to download it when I'm at home and I'll bring it to the Posse on 
Wednesday, for those in the UT Grotto who'd like to see what it looks like.

Cheers,
Stefan

-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]

Back in 2011, I did extensive copy-editing of a manuscript called "A Fine Cave: 
The Elusive Splendor of Lechuguilla Cave, A Twenty-Year Odyssey of Discovery," 
by Ron DeLano with Donald Davis. It turned out to be quite a project, as the 
text was about 170,000 words. At the time I envisioned a book something like 
"Deep Secrets," about the same cave, with a few maps for clarity and a token 
number of color photos.
For a while we thought that the NSS might publish the book, but that didn't 
work out. (My editing was not predicated on that assumption. I just figured if 
I didn't do it, nobody would.) The difficulty, if not impossibility, of finding 
a commercial publisher for the book, together with DeLano's reluctance to sign 
over the copyright, has caused him to publish it himself as an e-book, and as a 
trilogy, since DeLano has added, I'm told, 175 illustrations.

The first third of the book is now available as "Elusive Majesty: Part
1 of the Exploration of the World's Most Beautiful Cave." Supposedly all major 
sources of e-books have it. One for sure is Amazon as a Kindle book for $9.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Elusive-Majesty-Exploration-Worlds-Beautiful-ebook/dp/B00I0GP4RA/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1390585419&sr=1-1&keywords=lechuguilla

or just search for Ron DeLano or Elusive Majesty.

So far I have only seen the text. I suppose sooner or later I'll break down and 
buy a version I can view on my computer, although I'm not real interested in 
e-books with rights protection, so that I presumably couldn't even shelve a 
copy on disk. I can say that cavers will find the text a good read, if 
occasionally controversial. And of course it's hardly possible to take a bad 
photograph of Lechuguilla Cave. -- Mixon



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[Texascavers] new e-book on Lechuguilla Cave

[Mixon Bill]

Back in 2011, I did extensive copy-editing of a manuscript called "A  
Fine Cave: The Elusive Splendor of Lechuguilla Cave, A Twenty-Year  
Odyssey of Discovery," by Ron DeLano with Donald Davis. It turned out  
to be quite a project, as the text was about 170,000 words. At the  
time I envisioned a book something like "Deep Secrets," about the same  
cave, with a few maps for clarity and a token number of color photos.  
For a while we thought that the NSS might publish the book, but that  
didn't work out. (My editing was not predicated on that assumption. I  
just figured if I didn't do it, nobody would.) The difficulty, if not  
impossibility, of finding a commercial publisher for the book,  
together with DeLano's reluctance to sign over the copyright, has  
caused him to publish it himself as an e-book, and as a trilogy, since  
DeLano has added, I'm told, 175 illustrations.


The first third of the book is now available as "Elusive Majesty: Part  
1 of the Exploration of the World's Most Beautiful Cave." Supposedly  
all major sources of e-books have it. One for sure is Amazon as a  
Kindle book for $9.99:


http://www.amazon.com/Elusive-Majesty-Exploration-Worlds-Beautiful-ebook/dp/B00I0GP4RA/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1390585419&sr=1-1&keywords=lechuguilla

or just search for Ron DeLano or Elusive Majesty.

So far I have only seen the text. I suppose sooner or later I'll break  
down and buy a version I can view on my computer, although I'm not  
real interested in e-books with rights protection, so that I  
presumably couldn't even shelve a copy on disk. I can say that cavers  
will find the text a good read, if occasionally controversial. And of  
course it's hardly possible to take a bad photograph of Lechuguilla  
Cave. -- Mixon


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Re: [Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project Reports

[Mark Minton]

Marvin,

How high was your climb up Big Dome? Too bad it didn't go. :-(

Mark

At 12:10 AM 1/27/2014, Marvin and Lisa wrote:
John, Angela, and I tag-teamed on the climb. John started and then I 
made it to the top on the north end, finding no leads. John 
traversed from the north end of the dome to the south end and set a 
bolt just below the narrow channel on that side. Angela then climbed 
up and, using an etrier to boost herself up into the channel, 
managed to clamber up to a safe stance where she could look around. 
Unfortunately, the channel on that side also did not lead into any 
passage. We got some good pics of all the climbers and some good 
long-exposure shots of the dome with Angela up there lighting up the 
ceiling channels.


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[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting January 29th

[Andrea Croskrey]

Howdy Texas Cavers!

Join us this week for the UT Grotto meeting and you'll get to enjoy Matt
Turner's tale of how he got started in cave diving and where his training
has taken him, including dives in Mexico and Florida.  Hope to see you
there!

We will now be meeting at 7:45pm in *Burdine 136*. Follow this link to a
map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus:
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html

For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org

Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo  www.saopaulos.net  for
happy hour specials. Attendance by cavers varies but this area is the best
place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting.  Then after the
official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene
for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East.
www.posse-east.com

Cavingly,
Andrea Croskrey
UT Grotto Vice Chair