Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer
Yes, I have been in contact with Bill for many years. He does live in Boerne. ===Carl (from Moab, Utah) From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:27 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer In the late 1950's when I first became interested in caving, I enjoyed seeing Helmer's clever Texas Caver covers and other art work. I don't have them now but they were priceless. Hey Carl, do you think he could really be living in Boerne? Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:04 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer.That is a name I haven't heard spoke of in caving circles in a while.When I was a newbie, sitting around the campfire in Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend. The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same name.Is this him ? http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is ) Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about Bill Helmer. Right ? David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru
Here are a few new links--news updates, video, and apparently a partial map of the cave--from a Peruvian friend. Google translates as well as I could. http://elcomercio.pe/peru/amazonas/socorristas-espanoles-llegan-rescatar-cecilio-lopez-noticia-1758351 http://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2014/09/21/541ecbb8e2704ef54d8b4577.html http://elcomercio.pe/peru/ancash/equipo-alta-montana-huaraz-llego-cueva-intimachay-noticia-1758397 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmOTPH8JEYM&feature=youtu.be http://espeleoclubandinoperu.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/cueva-intimachay-distrito-de-leymebamba_20.html Ed On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Ed, > > Any further news about this rescue? My Spanish is not so good. (My > English ain't right either.) > > Josh > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers < > texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > >> A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave >> near Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue: >> >> >> http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/ >> >> It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team >> to Peru on Saturday to help: >> >> http://www.fmespeleologia.org/ >> >> Ed >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] accident in Peru
For what it's worth (not a lot), here is what Google makes of the Spanish report from the scene sent this morning by Gustavo Vela. Last Saturday I touched down to -400 m to the doctor Cecilio a Lima firefighter who had never entered a cave. Diagnosis is which may have a broken vertebra. Cecilio okay, calm and in good spirits. It is stable and waiting to do the extraction. On the surface the situation is complicated receive support from the national police, fire and air force but all arrived without food or tents and nobody knows cave, so the aid has been nil. We have almost no food at base camp. We have asked for support Mayor of Chachapoyas but we question who will pay the food we ordered, which is why I ask all brothers cavers Spain to lobby insurance for Cecilio Lopez payer bailout since neither paid tickets 6 tickets rescuers coming from this country. If all goes well tomorrow afternoon begin extraction. in will be effective 16 Spaniards, 4 Frenchmen who came voluntarily, and 4 of the expedition. Goggle often seems to have trouble with Gustavo's Spanish.--Bill Do you really think it is weakness to yield to temptation? There are terrible temptations that require strength and courage to yield to. You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru
I think I was caving with that guy in Mex last month. --Ediver Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers Date: 09/22/2014 12:49 (GMT-06:00) To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru Ed, Any further news about this rescue? My Spanish is not so good. (My English ain't right either.) Josh On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers wrote: A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave near Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue: http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/ It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team to Peru on Saturday to help: http://www.fmespeleologia.org/ Ed ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru
Hey Josh. I got an update from Gustavo, who is on site as part of the expedition. They say that their biggest problem right now is that the local authorities are not willing with provide food without a clear indication of who will pay for it. There was no mention of equipment needs or personnel needs. There was a medical evaluation of the patient and he may have a fractured vertebra. If there are no further delays the maneuvers to get the patient out of the cave should begin tomorrow afternoon. - Fofo. > On 22/09/2014, at 10:49, Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers > wrote: > > Ed, > > Any further news about this rescue? My Spanish is not so good. (My English > ain't right either.) > > Josh > >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers >> wrote: >> A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave near >> Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue: >> >> http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/ >> >> It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team to >> Peru on Saturday to help: >> >> http://www.fmespeleologia.org/ >> >> Ed >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru
Ed, Any further news about this rescue? My Spanish is not so good. (My English ain't right either.) Josh On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave > near Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue: > > > http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/ > > It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team > to Peru on Saturday to help: > > http://www.fmespeleologia.org/ > > Ed > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer
Same Bill Helmer. Bourne is Boerne. His article appears in TEXAS CAVER about 74. Sent from the Samsung Galaxy Rugby Pro, an AT&T LTE smartphone Original message From: via Texascavers Date: 09/22/2014 00:15 (GMT-06:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer Yup, that's the caver Bill Helmer. There's quite a bit written about Bill in 50 Years of Texas Caving. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:04 PM, David via Texascavers wrote: Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer. That is a name I haven't heard spoke of in caving circles in a while. When I was a newbie, sitting around the campfire in Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend. The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same name. Is this him ? http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is ) Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about Bill Helmer. Right ? David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers