Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-22 Thread Carl Kunath via Texascavers
Yes, I have been in contact with Bill for many years.
He does live in Boerne.

===Carl (from Moab, Utah)

From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:27 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

In the late 1950's when I first became interested in caving, I enjoyed seeing 
Helmer's clever Texas Caver covers and other art work. I don't have them now 
but they were priceless. Hey Carl, do you think he could really be living in 
Boerne?
Fritz Holt
fritz...@gmail.com


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On Sep 21, 2014, at 10:04 PM, David via Texascavers 
 wrote:


  Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer.That is a name I haven't heard spoke of 
in

  caving circles in a while.When I was a newbie, sitting around the 
campfire in
  Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend.

  The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same
  name.Is this him ?

  http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm


  http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html


  If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is )



  Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about
  Bill Helmer.   Right ?

  David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread Ed Goff via Texascavers
Here are a few new links--news updates, video, and apparently a partial map
of the cave--from a Peruvian friend. Google translates as well as I could.

http://elcomercio.pe/peru/amazonas/socorristas-espanoles-llegan-rescatar-cecilio-lopez-noticia-1758351
http://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2014/09/21/541ecbb8e2704ef54d8b4577.html
http://elcomercio.pe/peru/ancash/equipo-alta-montana-huaraz-llego-cueva-intimachay-noticia-1758397
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmOTPH8JEYM&feature=youtu.be
http://espeleoclubandinoperu.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/cueva-intimachay-distrito-de-leymebamba_20.html

Ed

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Ed,
>
> Any further news about this rescue?  My Spanish is not so good.  (My
> English ain't right either.)
>
> Josh
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave
>> near Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue:
>>
>>
>> http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/
>>
>> It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team
>> to Peru on Saturday to help:
>>
>> http://www.fmespeleologia.org/
>>
>> Ed
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[Texascavers] accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
For what it's worth (not a lot), here is what Google makes of the  
Spanish report from the scene sent this morning by Gustavo Vela.



Last Saturday I touched down to -400 m to the doctor Cecilio a
Lima firefighter who had never entered a cave. Diagnosis is
which may have a broken vertebra.

Cecilio okay, calm and in good spirits. It is stable and waiting
to do the extraction. On the surface the situation is complicated
receive support from the national police, fire and air force but
all arrived without food or tents and nobody knows cave, so the
aid has been nil.

We have almost no food at base camp. We have asked for support
Mayor of Chachapoyas but we question who will pay the
food we ordered, which is why I ask all brothers
cavers Spain to lobby insurance for Cecilio Lopez
payer bailout since neither paid tickets
6 tickets rescuers coming from this country.

If all goes well tomorrow afternoon begin extraction. in
will be effective 16 Spaniards, 4 Frenchmen who came
voluntarily, and 4 of the expedition.


Goggle often seems to have trouble with Gustavo's Spanish.--Bill

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Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread gille via Texascavers
I think I was caving with that guy in Mex last month. 
--Ediver


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 Original message 
From: Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers  
Date: 09/22/2014  12:49  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Cavers Texas  
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru 
 
Ed,

Any further news about this rescue?  My Spanish is not so good.  (My English 
ain't right either.)

Josh

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers 
 wrote:
A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave near 
Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue:

http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/

It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team to 
Peru on Saturday to help:

http://www.fmespeleologia.org/

Ed

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Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread Fofo via Texascavers
Hey Josh. 

I got an update from Gustavo, who is on site as part of the expedition. 

They say that their biggest problem right now is that the local authorities are 
not willing with provide food without a clear indication of who will pay for 
it. 

There was no mention of equipment needs or personnel needs. 

There was a medical evaluation of the patient and he may have a fractured 
vertebra. 

If there are no further delays the maneuvers to get the patient out of the cave 
should begin tomorrow afternoon. 

- Fofo. 



> On 22/09/2014, at 10:49, Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ed,
> 
> Any further news about this rescue?  My Spanish is not so good.  (My English 
> ain't right either.)
> 
> Josh
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave near 
>> Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue:
>> 
>> http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/
>> 
>> It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team to 
>> Peru on Saturday to help:
>> 
>> http://www.fmespeleologia.org/
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Caving accident in Peru

2014-09-22 Thread Josh Rubinstein via Texascavers
Ed,

Any further news about this rescue?  My Spanish is not so good.  (My
English ain't right either.)

Josh

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Ed Goff via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> A Spanish caver from Madrid apparently was injured yesterday in a cave
> near Leymebamba in northern Peru and is awaiting rescue:
>
>
> http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2242504/0/espeleologo-madrileno/atrapado-cueva/peru/
>
> It looks like the Federación Madrileña de Espeleología is sending a team
> to Peru on Saturday to help:
>
> http://www.fmespeleologia.org/
>
> Ed
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer

2014-09-22 Thread gille via Texascavers
Same Bill Helmer. Bourne is Boerne. His article appears in TEXAS CAVER about 
74. 


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 Original message 
From: via Texascavers  
Date: 09/22/2014  00:15  (GMT-06:00) 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Helmer 
 
Yup, that's the caver Bill Helmer. There's quite a bit written about Bill in 50 
Years of Texas Caving.

Jerry.

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On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:04 PM, David via Texascavers 
 wrote:

Joe Pearce mentioned Bill Helmer.    That is a name I haven't heard spoke of in
caving circles in a while.    When I was a newbie, sitting around the campfire 
in
Carta Valley, or somewhere out west, cavers spoke of him like a legend.

The 2 links below are related and mention someone with the same
name.    Is this him ?

http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id59.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/mo/crimeinc/page3.html

If so, the article says he lives in Bourne, Texas ( where ever that is )



Somebody could write a nice article for the Texas Caver about
Bill Helmer.   Right ?

David Locklear
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