Re: [Texascavers] Unsubscribe: Maybe, But come to the 2015 Convention!

[Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers]

I'm going to just say that by all means come to the 2015 Convention at CWAN so 
that you can hear the marvelous series of speakers lined up by Mallory and 
support the TCMA through its auction and enjoy all the other aspects of caver 
fellowship.  Whatever flaws emerge (and they always do) will be outweighed by 
seeing and hearing top notch cave presentations in the ample "presentation 
passage."


Roger Moore
Vice Chair



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From: Bill Bentley via Texascavers 
To: CaveTex 
Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2015 10:13 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Unsubscribe


 
I'm not sure how asking someone if they're going to a TSA convention is 
stirring up trouble, sorry didn't mean to cause any.
  
On Apr 10, 2015 10:07 AM, "Nancy Weaver via Texascavers" <  
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:  
  
I agree.  that is beyond tacky to intentionally stir up trouble for someone and 
lie.  ditto on unsubscribe   
 Nancy   
 On Apr 10, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Gary McDaniel via Texascavers <   
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:   

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 > Sent from my iPhone.   
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 >> On Apr 10, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers <   
 >> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:   
 >>   
 >> The mailing list wasn't built until 2003 IIRC from Bill telling me   
 >> about it, I think it was just a timestamp goofed up on someone's mail   
 >> client.   
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 >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers   
 >> <   texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:   
 >>> That email was from 1999? Look at the date.   
 >>>   
 >>> Sheryl Rieck   
 >>>sheryl.ri...@gmail.com   
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 >>> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just 
 >>> might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones   
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  On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers <   
  texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:   
    
  Anything without water or electricity makes it much more unpleasant for 
  the cooks to make dinner, David, if that's what you mean by 
  remote/primitive.   
    
  -Stefan   
     
  From: Texascavers [   texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
  Fritz Holt via Texascavers [   texascavers@texascavers.com]   
  Sent: 09 April 2015 23:38   
  To:texascavers@texascavers.com   
  Cc: June Levy; Jenny Holt; Mandy; David Locklear   
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention   
    
  The Pecos may be a bit far for the majority of cavers who are more 
  centralized. The best I have experienced in the last ten years was held 
  at Fort Clark. That venue had everything a caver could want. No better 
  water or facilities anywhere. I didn't mind the drive from Houston but am 
  now closer in Dripping Springs.   
  My daughters and I will not be going to this month's convention but I do 
  have some cool items to donate to the auction if I can get them to 
  someone who is going. I would buy someone dinner if they would come to 
  Dripping to pick up the auction items.   
  Fritz Holt   
 fritz...@gmail.com   
 713-818-2496   
    
  Sent from my iPhone   
    
  On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers <   
  texascavers@texascavers.com> 
  wrote:   
    
  Are you going?   
    
    
  On 11/18/1999 3:29 PM, David Locklear wrote:   
    
  There was some preliminary discussion this week at   
  the Houston Grotto meeting about hosting the TSA   
  spring convention.   
    
  Can someone tell me how many people usually show up for   
  this event?   
    
  In recent years, this event has been held in the Hill Country.   
  What would people think about a more remote, primitive location   
  in West Texas.Like somewhere on the Pecos River.For   
  example, the campground at Pandale, Texas.   
    
  Please send comments directly to me:   
    
  David Locklear  lockl...@pdq.net>>> lockl...@pdq.net>   
    
  This is just a fact-finding mission and does not represent any   
  official announcement.   
    
  Sincerely,   
  David   
    
    
    
    
    
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Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention

[via Texascavers]

Bill, usually about a eighty to a hundred fifty folks attend the Convention. 
Rocksprings sounds like a pretty good idea.

Jerry.

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On Apr 10, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
 wrote:

> The town of Rocksprings has told me that they would like to have a TSA in 
> their town and they have a fair grounds across from the school that we could 
> use for camping and use the school for programs.
> 
>  
> 
> I still have contacts there. It’s a small town with a  couple of hotels and a 
> restaurant or two and would love to have us.
> 
>  
> 
> They probably could also arrange a visit to look at the Devils Sinkhole.
> 
>  
> 
> Having said that, I would be happy to make the introductions but I’m NOT 
> going to host or organize the event. I already am over committed and probably 
> should be committed.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Geary
> 
>  
> 
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Fritz Holt via Texascavers
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 11:39 PM
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Cc: June Levy; Jenny Holt; Mandy; David Locklear
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention
> 
>  
> 
> The Pecos may be a bit far for the majority of cavers who are more 
> centralized. The best I have experienced in the last ten years was held at 
> Fort Clark. That venue had everything a caver could want. No better water or 
> facilities anywhere. I didn't mind the drive from Houston but am now closer 
> in Dripping Springs. 
> 
> My daughters and I will not be going to this month's convention but I do have 
> some cool items to donate to the auction if I can get them to someone who is 
> going. I would buy someone dinner if they would come to Dripping to pick up 
> the auction items. 
> 
> Fritz Holt
> 
> fritz...@gmail.com
> 
> 713-818-2496
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you going?
> 
> 
> On 11/18/1999 3:29 PM, David Locklear wrote:
> 
> There was some preliminary discussion this week at
> the Houston Grotto meeting about hosting the TSA
> spring convention.
>  
> Can someone tell me how many people usually show up for
> this event?
>  
> In recent years, this event has been held in the Hill Country.
> What would people think about a more remote, primitive location
> in West Texas.Like somewhere on the Pecos River.For
> example, the campground at Pandale, Texas.
>  
> Please send comments directly to me:
>  
> David Locklear   lockl...@pdq.net
>  
> This is just a fact-finding mission and does not represent any
> official announcement.
>  
> Sincerely,
> David
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> -- 
> Bill Bentley
> ca...@caver.net
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Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention: News for 2016

[Mallory via Texascavers]

Rog, 

The conventions the last 2 years, and likely the convention this year, have 
been fun and well attended and there's no issue with that location for this 
year whatsoever. Props to you for doing what you can given your many time 
constraints. 

I find it amusing and ironic that there have been so many emails regarding the 
potential sites for 2016 and hypothetical changes when this years convention 
has yet to happen (and few want to discuss that!) and we certainly haven't had 
this many people email us offering us to help with the 2015 convention.  I was 
kinda wondering about attendance bc I haven't heard much chatter about it until 
recently...

Given this sudden storm of interest I'm excited to see all these new faces step 
up and get involvedthere will be another open position in 2016 because this 
is my last year as Speaker Coordinator also. 

Mallory

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> On Apr 10, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Roger Moore (cavera...@aol.com) via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is certainly going to be an opportunity for a decision on a new site 
> for 2016. I found searching for suitable locations too cumbersome from a 
> Houston base, despite offers to assist in the process. So I have stayed with 
> CWAN as a know entity for all three of my terms. But I've found that sale of 
> my company, combined with continued employment with my company as President 
> has changed my role in many ways that have diminished my control of my time 
> during the work day, which is when I previously got a lot of TSA business 
> accomplished as Vice Chair and previously working with Mallory on speaker 
> scheduling.
> 
> So I will definitely not be a candidate for Vice Chair in 2016. People need 
> to start thinking about stepping up for this office in the next term now.
> 
> Roger G. Moore
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
> To: CaveTex 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2015 10:48 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] CaveTex: TSA Spring convention
> 
> TSA Spring Convention planning is always the responsibility of the Vice 
> Chair, currently Roger Moore.  Run for office, nominate someone else, or at 
> the very least vote for officers if you want change.  In general, the 
> membership is pretty apathetic about things like that. 
> 
> Crash 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>  wrote: 
>> I too have heard from Rocksprings, they'd love us to have s convention 
>> there, it would be an awesome chance to speak with locals. I mentioned this 
>> before (as has Geary), but the TSA made other plans. CWAN IS a great venue, 
>> no question, but we are missing a good chance to find leads out there.
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention

[Geary Schindel via Texascavers]

Well, I plan on attending part of the TSA Spring Convention but some folks 
(Thanks Jenny and Zach) planned their wedding for Saturday afternoon. So I’ll 
have to bug out at some point (but I may come back depending on which group has 
the better open bar). I did asked them to move their wedding date but they said 
it was the only date their venue was open – yes, it wasn’t very accommodating 
of them – LOL.

Anyway, a BIG THANKS to Roger and Mallory for all the hard work they put into 
the event over the years. I’m sure it will be a great event.

Geary
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[Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference car-pooling and Call for GSA Karst Abstracts

[George Veni via Texascavers]

Dear Friends,

I have one small and one large announcement. The small announcement is that if 
you would like to car-pool to Rochester, Minnesota, USA for The Sinkhole 
Conference on 5-9 October 2015, there is now a tool at 
www.sinkholeconference.com to connecter 
people looking for riders with those needing a ride. Just go to the website and 
click on "Car-Pooling" in the menu bar.

The large announcement is that it is that time of year to announce the call for 
papers for the Geological Society of America (GSA) Convention. This year it 
will be held in Baltimore, Maryland, USA, on 1-4 November. A record nine karst 
sessions are offered this year, showcasing the diversity and importance of 
karst research.

Registration for GSA opens in June. General information on the conference can 
be found at
http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2015/home.

The abstract deadline is 11 August. Information on how to submit abstracts and 
the full list of sessions is available at
http://community.geosociety.org/gsa2015/science-careers/sessions

Field trip Information is not yet posted but I believe there will be at least 
one karst trip. Look for it and maybe others in June when registration opens.

Last year, GSA created the Karst Division, and the new Division's officers have 
been busy making its inaugural year special by recruiting many sessions and 
other activities. I hope you will be able to attend GSA this year and present 
at one or more of these sessions.

Please feel free to share this message with anyone who may be interested.

George
-

I'm happy to announce that NCKRI is co-organizing these two GSA sessions:

T118. Extreme Karst: Exploring the Limits of Karstification on Earth and 
throughout the Solar System

Karl Leon Mitchell, George Veni
GSA Karst Division; GSA Planetary Geology Division; National Cave and Karst 
Research Institute; GSA Quaternary Geology and Geomorphology Division



Karst processes and landscapes result from dissolution under radically 
different environments, chemistries, and timescales. This session 
quantitatively and theoretically compares different karst development in 
extreme or unusual circumstances, on Earth and other worlds.


The recent discovery of karst, or karst-like landscapes, on Saturn's moon Titan 
highlights a need for a greater understanding of karst as a fundamental 
geological process. Karst results primarily from geological dissolution 
processes. However, mass transport resulting from solvent flow, suffosion and 
collapse are also critical to the resultant features, such as caves and 
landscapes.  Although karst systems archetypically form as a result of action 
of water on limestone, they may in fact be formed in almost any water-soluble 
rock, from carbonates and sulphates to salts and even silicates.  Furthermore, 
processes involving solution of grain boundaries rather than bulk dissolution, 
such as is often seen in sandstone, are also now commonly referred to as 
karstic.

The interpretation of karst landscapes on Titan, an icy world in which liquid 
alkanes such as methane and ethane interact with solid organics at ~90 K, 
brings the possibility of comparative studies of karstic systems with radically 
different chemistries and environmental constraints.  As has been found with 
other geological disciplines, there is considerable value in studying processes 
in extremes, as these allow our understanding and models to be tested in novel 
ways.  It is timely, therefore, to expose planetary scientists to terrestrial 
karst scientists, and vice-versa, in order to foster an open exchange of ideas.


This session aims to draw terrestrial and planetary scientists together to 
discuss common themes that span karst science.  Papers will be accepted 
involving field, theoretical and laboratory studies of karstic systems with 
unusual chemistries, environments, or timescales.  We would like to 
particularly encourage contributions that have the potential to benefit the 
development of karst studies within a comparative planetological context.


For more information, contact George Veni 
(gv...@nckri.org).



T122. Remote Sensing and Geophysical Imaging in Karst

Lewis Land, Daniel H. Doctor
GSA Karst Division; GSA Environmental and Engineering Geology Division; GSA 
Geophysics Division; GSA Hydrogeology Division; National Cave and Karst 
Research Institute; Karst Waters Institute; GSA Geoinformatics Division



Geophysics and remote sensing tools are frequently used for investigations of 
karst phenomena. We welcome papers that address the use of remote sensing and 
geophysical imaging in karst regions, including both airborne and ground-based 
methods.

Geophysical and remote sensing methods are becoming increasingly common for 
investigations of karst. Techniques such as electromagnetics, electrical 
resistivity, InSAR, LiDAR, microgravity, ground penetrating radar, seismic 
ref