Re: [Texascavers] Krubera-Veronya
thanks very nice picture s On Jan 11, 2017 10:28 PM, "Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. Those are awesome pictures. > > -Original Message- > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf > Of Sam Young via Texascavers > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:01 AM > To: Texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] Krubera-Veronya > > I am retired from the Mathematics Department at Auburn University. One of > my colleagues, Andras Bezdek, had a Masters Degree student, Gergely Ambrus, > who is a serious Hungarian caver. Ambrus returned to Auburn to give a talk > about his trip to the deepest cave in the world. I have copied, below, the > abstract of the talk and a link to the images. > > ... Sam Young > > Gergely Ambrus ( Professor, Budapest Semesters in Mathematics) Title: > Inverse Everest - Expedition to the deepest cave in the world. > > Abstract: > > In August 2016, a handful of Hungarian cavers descended into the deepest > cave in the world, the Krubera-Voronya cave located in Abkhazia (former > Georgia). Their goal was to make professional photographs of the cave for > the first time in history. During the one-month-long expedition, the > expedition members spent 16 days underground. Their longest trip, leading > to the depth of 6800 ft, took 9 days. The expedition, co-ordinated by > National Geogpraphic Hungary, was led by Gergely Ambrus, a former Auburn > graduate in Mathematics. The deepest point of the cave have been reached > by far less people than the summit of Mount Everest. > > In this talk, Gergely is going to present what a complex task organizing > and leading such an expedition is. Starting months before the summer, the > group had to find sponsors, make travel plans, purchase the necessary > equipment both for caving and for the underground photography. Their > endeavour started already before the expedition > itself: a week before they intended to travel, the Russian army closed > the border checkpoint of Abkhazia, therefore getting to the location was > already complicated. He is going to describe what material and equipment > is needed to withstand the extreme conditions. During their time > underground, all their gear was constantly wet, due to the numerous > cascades in the pitches. The temperature of the cave had been constantly > around 35 F. The explorers carried with them three tackle sacs per person, > weighing about 70 lb. They had to descend sometimes in 500-ft deep > pitches, or in passages completely filled with water. > Several times, the expedition members got into danger due to floods or > worn out equipment and ropes, and they had to solve these issues instantly > on the spot. > > Gergely is going to present a compilation of photographs and videos taken > during the expedition, showing us what this unique underground world looks > like. He will also talk about the scientific aspect of the > expedition: the group has completed several underground biology, geology > and measurement project > > Here are the images - text in Hungarian: > > http://index.hu/nagykep/2016/09/13/inverse_everest_bar/ > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] imaginary caves
I have done years of cave exploration in my dreams. Oftentimes the other cavers in the passage have a familiar voice or a familiar manner or attitude or even a familiar face. There is always something weird like icicles in a tropical cave or a underground river in a desert cave. But there always seem to be some unexplainable hurry to get in or out of the cave. Usually, I will be in Airmans, but it will be called something else. And I later pop up out of another entrance in another dimension of time and space. I do not think these dreams have monsters or sex like the Hollywood cave movies. I always forget the dreams within minutes of waking up. I think in the dream, I always say to myself, "WTF, I have been in this passage before numerous times and there are no large waterfalls in Airman's Cave," or I know this passage is on the left but it is on the right, or this should have been a crawling passage, not a walking passage. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] A new children's book: A Dark, Dark Cave :
Aw man! Call spoilers before you tell us the whole book! > On Jan 12, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > I looked at the link to that book, and it turns out that the kids were just > imagining a cave while playing in a "cave" they made by draping cloth over > furniture in their living room. Still, I guess maybe it's cave-related. > Jerry's e-mail quotes the publisher's blurb.-- Mixon > > Nature is a hanging judge. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] A new children's book: A Dark, Dark Cave :
I looked at the link to that book, and it turns out that the kids were just imagining a cave while playing in a "cave" they made by draping cloth over furniture in their living room. Still, I guess maybe it's cave-related. Jerry's e-mail quotes the publisher's blurb.-- Mixon Nature is a hanging judge. You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Krubera
Sure, Bill, I think I can get it to him. I will send it to my friend Bezdek who will be in contact with Ambus. Sam On 1/11/2017 11:19 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: If anybody can figure out how to get in touch with that Hungarian mathematician Gergely Ambus who took those pix in Krubera, you might suggest he look at article Hydroleveling of Very Deep Caves, with an Example from Voronja (Krubera) Cave. Alexander Degtjarev, Eugene Snetkov, and Alexey Gurjanov AMCS Activities Newsletter 29, 2006, which is pretty mathy in nature, I had to do an whole lot of work to put it in shape to be published, including fixing some errors. I still don't entirely vouch for its content. It is at http://www.mexicancaves.org/nl/29.pdf, pp. 85-92. -- Mixon Nature is a hanging judge. You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] A new children's book: A Dark, Dark Cave :
A Dark, Dark Cave byEric Hoffman, Corey R. Tabor (Illustrations) 3.48 · Rating Details · 130 Ratings · 38Reviews On a cold night, under a pale moon, a brother and sister explore a dark, dark cave. Strange creatures skitter along the walls while bats brush past. A wild howl makes the cave feel just a teensy bit darker. But readers are in for a delightful surprise when a beam of light reveals a softer side of the cave. Told in spare rhyming text alongside stunning illustrations, A Dark, Dark Cave will ignite a young reader's imagination and inspire creative play. This just-spooky-enough story is sure to become a read-aloud favorite. Hardcover, 40 pages PublishedMay 24th 2016 by Viking Books for Young Readers http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26192983-a-dark-dark-cave Jerry Atkinson jerryat...@aol.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
