Re: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter

[Jenny Holt via Texascavers]

This reminds me of the Sidney Sheldon novel from the 70's called The Other Side 
of Midnight. A women named Catherine was left for dead without a light source 
in a sea cave. It scared the hell out of me & I never forgot it!  Check out 
this book if you love a great drama/mystery/romance novel.
Jenny Holt

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On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:41 PM, Dwight via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:

It's quite interesting since the story seems to have been initially written as 
a piece of fiction.


From: "Louise Power via Texascavers" 
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Cc: "Louise Power" mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com>>
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Dwight,


Sounds like the plot of a Spielberg movie.



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Subject: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter


The Short Story

Experienced Mammoth Cave folks may have heard of Melissa. She was in love with 
her tutor, but he failed to reciprocate her affections.  For her revenge, she 
abandoned him in Mammoth Cave in 1843 without a lamp.  He was never heard of 
again. Visitors and cave guides tell of hearing her voice as she roams the 
passages calling for her lost love.

In some telling of the tale (and it WAS Mammoth Cave, after all) she contracted 
consumption. Her mysterious voice (as heard in the cave) has her doleful 
refrain interrupted by fitful coughing.

If you would like a 2 page PDF file with more details, write to 
dirt...@comcast.net and request a copy.

DirtDoc



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Re: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter

[Dwight via Texascavers]

It's quite interesting since the story seems to have been initially written as 
a piece of fiction. 

- Original Message -

From: "Louise Power via Texascavers"  
To: "texascavers@texascavers.com"  
Cc: "Louise Power"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:38:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter 



Dwight, 




Sounds like the plot of a Spielberg movie. 


From: Texascavers  on behalf of Dwight via 
Texascavers  
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:46 PM 
To: Cave NM; Cave Texas; TAG Net 
Cc: Dwight 
Subject: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter 

The Short Story 

Experienced Mammoth Cave folks may have heard of Melissa. She was in love with 
her tutor, but he failed to reciprocate her affections. For her revenge, she 
abandoned him in Mammoth Cave in 1843 without a lamp. He was never heard of 
again. Visitors and cave guides tell of hearing her voice as she roams the 
passages calling for her lost love. 

In some telling of the tale (and it WAS Mammoth Cave, after all) she contracted 
consumption. Her mysterious voice (as heard in the cave) has her doleful 
refrain interrupted by fitful coughing. 

If you would like a 2 page PDF file with more details, write to 
dirt...@comcast.net and request a copy. 

DirtDoc 



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Re: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter

[Louise Power via Texascavers]

Dwight,


Sounds like the plot of a Spielberg movie.



From: Texascavers  on behalf of Dwight via 
Texascavers 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:46 PM
To: Cave NM; Cave Texas; TAG Net
Cc: Dwight
Subject: [Texascavers] Mammoth Cave Specter


The Short Story

Experienced Mammoth Cave folks may have heard of Melissa. She was in love with 
her tutor, but he failed to reciprocate her affections.  For her revenge, she 
abandoned him in Mammoth Cave in 1843 without a lamp.  He was never heard of 
again. Visitors and cave guides tell of hearing her voice as she roams the 
passages calling for her lost love.

In some telling of the tale (and it WAS Mammoth Cave, after all) she contracted 
consumption. Her mysterious voice (as heard in the cave) has her doleful 
refrain interrupted by fitful coughing.

If you would like a 2 page PDF file with more details, write to 
dirt...@comcast.net and request a copy.

DirtDoc


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Re: [Texascavers] My Sequoia saga

[Dwight via Texascavers]

Good idea, Louise. David: Sell the turkey with a "new" engine and get the Best 
Price you can before something else goes, like the tranny. Then buy some 
replacement 

It's either that or drive it (and your debt) into the ground. 

BUT get a GOOD mechanic to check a replacement out before you commit to a new 
one. Good, really good, caver-mechanics in the Austin area. I saw someone gave 
you names with that excellent advice a while back. 

Good Luck. The world has not ended. 

Dirtdoc 
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Re: [Texascavers] My Sequoia saga

[Louise Power via Texascavers]

You could buy a new or newer vehicle for that.



From: Texascavers  on behalf of David via 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:20 PM
To: CaveTex
Cc: David
Subject: [Texascavers] My Sequoia saga

I guess I am happy or at least relieved today.

The link below is a selfie with my new engine.   The mechanic fired it up and 
let me listen to it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5tr7nj0loxa1pc/LocklearSequoia1.jpg?dl=0
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He said that I could come get it on Thursday, which will be a month from when 
it broke down.

The only part he reused was my serpentine fan-belt.   Meaning I have a new 
radiator, hoses, radiator-cap, engine, water-pump, spark-plugs and thermostat.  
I assume he put in good coolant and oil.

He said the old engine blew a head-gasket out of the right-rear cylinder from 
driving it way too hot.

I do not believe I would have ever knowingly driven an engine hot.  I had Jiffy 
Lube do their routine stuff before the road-trip, and I had paid a mechanic $ 
20 to look over the engine prior to leaving town.

And prior to leaving Schulenberg with CowPoke for Decatur on June 17th, I 
popped the hood and briefly looked at the engine.  It seemed to drive fine to 
Decatur.   It seemed to drive fine the first 20 miles on the way home, back 
towards Houston.  It seems obvious that I drove it too far once I had realized 
there was a problem, but by then all my efforts to fix it in Fort Worth and 
later in Mansfield were expensive and futile.  I can only guess now, that I 
spent $ 1,500 in May and June on the Sequoia.

The current additional estimate is $ 13,000 which I think he threw in a brake 
job while he was waiting on parts to arrive.   That all means I am going to be 
in debt, living above my means, for many years to come.   I am about to own a $ 
23,500 Sequoia that still needs TLC, and with a transmission with 190,000 
miles,  that is probably worth $ 8,000.

I do not think it can get any dumber than that.

Anything related to me going on road-trips from Houston is probably going to be 
even more difficult than it was before.

I should be trying to settle down and learn more about computers and Linux, in 
an effort to slow-down the process of going stir-crazy insane.   However, that 
effort is going about as well as my Sequoia saga.


David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Louise Power via Texascavers]

Bill,


I agree. With all that Park Service has to pay for and for all they do for our 
parks and the fact that the Orange Menace's Congress seems to be cutting back 
the budgets for all the land management agencies, we shouldn't resent paying 
more considering what we get for our money. I've worked for both NPS and BLM 
and believe me they're not easy jobs.


Louise



From: Texascavers  on behalf of Bill 
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I got one in Zion National Park last year. It cost me $10 for a lifetime pass. 
It includes everyone in the vehicle with me. I told the NPS guy it was the best 
deal in the country and an incentive to live a long time.

Bill Steele
cwilliamste...@gmail.com

> On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:37 AM, David via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
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> I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with NPS, 
> and
> do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase in 
> six weeks.
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> I do not have the link in front of me.
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[Texascavers] My Sequoia saga

[David via Texascavers]

I guess I am happy or at least relieved today.

The link below is a selfie with my new engine.   The mechanic fired it up
and let me listen to it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5tr7nj0loxa1pc/LocklearSequoia1.jpg?dl=0

He said that I could come get it on Thursday, which will be a month from
when it broke down.

The only part he reused was my serpentine fan-belt.   Meaning I have a new
radiator, hoses, radiator-cap, engine, water-pump, spark-plugs and
thermostat.  I assume he put in good coolant and oil.

He said the old engine blew a head-gasket out of the right-rear cylinder
from driving it way too hot.

I do not believe I would have ever knowingly driven an engine hot.  I had
Jiffy Lube do their routine stuff before the road-trip, and I had paid a
mechanic $ 20 to look over the engine prior to leaving town.

And prior to leaving Schulenberg with CowPoke for Decatur on June 17th, I
popped the hood and briefly looked at the engine.  It seemed to drive fine
to Decatur.   It seemed to drive fine the first 20 miles on the way home,
back towards Houston.  It seems obvious that I drove it too far once I had
realized there was a problem, but by then all my efforts to fix it in Fort
Worth and later in Mansfield were expensive and futile.  I can only guess
now, that I spent $ 1,500 in May and June on the Sequoia.

The current additional estimate is $ 13,000 which I think he threw in a
brake job while he was waiting on parts to arrive.   That all means I am
going to be in debt, living above my means, for many years to come.   I am
about to own a $ 23,500 Sequoia that still needs TLC, and with a
transmission with 190,000 miles,  that is probably worth $ 8,000.

I do not think it can get any dumber than that.

Anything related to me going on road-trips from Houston is probably going
to be even more difficult than it was before.

I should be trying to settle down and learn more about computers and Linux,
in an effort to slow-down the process of going stir-crazy insane.
However, that effort is going about as well as my Sequoia saga.


David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

We went in March of last year, and rented cold weather gear for it.  We
want to go back and spend a week in that park.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Bill Steele 
wrote:

> Yes, the narrows was crowed with people at its opening. I went farther and
> farther until there was just a trickle of people. I decided to go until
> there wasn't anyone else. Eventually it got real narrow and one young
> couple came the other way. I asked them if anyone was ahead. They said no,
> no one else is up there. I went a couple more bends and turned around. For
> training's sake for caving, I blasted out as fast as I could.
>
> Bill Steele
>
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:43 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
> wrote:
>
> Some parks are $15 for a vehicle, Rocky Mountain National Park comes to
> mind, and I think Lake Powell was the same.  Taking 3 others into Carlsbad
> Caverns saves you quite a bit as well.
>
> Zion is a great park, Bill, did you go up the narrows?
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> I got one in Zion National Park last year. It cost me $10 for a lifetime
>> pass. It includes everyone in the vehicle with me. I told the NPS guy it
>> was the best deal in the country and an incentive to live a long time.
>>
>> Bill Steele
>> cwilliamste...@gmail.com
>>
>> > On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:37 AM, David via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with
>> NPS, and
>> > do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase
>> in six weeks.
>> >
>> > I do not have the link in front of me.
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

Yes, the narrows was crowed with people at its opening. I went farther and 
farther until there was just a trickle of people. I decided to go until there 
wasn't anyone else. Eventually it got real narrow and one young couple came the 
other way. I asked them if anyone was ahead. They said no, no one else is up 
there. I went a couple more bends and turned around. For training's sake for 
caving, I blasted out as fast as I could.

Bill Steele 

> On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:43 AM, Charles Goldsmith  wrote:
> 
> Some parks are $15 for a vehicle, Rocky Mountain National Park comes to mind, 
> and I think Lake Powell was the same.  Taking 3 others into Carlsbad Caverns 
> saves you quite a bit as well.
> 
> Zion is a great park, Bill, did you go up the narrows?
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> I got one in Zion National Park last year. It cost me $10 for a lifetime 
>> pass. It includes everyone in the vehicle with me. I told the NPS guy it was 
>> the best deal in the country and an incentive to live a long time.
>> 
>> Bill Steele
>> cwilliamste...@gmail.com
>> 
>> > On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:37 AM, David via Texascavers 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with 
>> > NPS, and
>> > do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase in 
>> > six weeks.
>> >
>> > I do not have the link in front of me.
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

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Buy online at https://store.usgs.gov/pass/index.html  for $20;  or download the 
pdf form.  You’ll need to have a picture or pdf of something that proves your 
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

Some parks are $15 for a vehicle, Rocky Mountain National Park comes to
mind, and I think Lake Powell was the same.  Taking 3 others into Carlsbad
Caverns saves you quite a bit as well.

Zion is a great park, Bill, did you go up the narrows?

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> I got one in Zion National Park last year. It cost me $10 for a lifetime
> pass. It includes everyone in the vehicle with me. I told the NPS guy it
> was the best deal in the country and an incentive to live a long time.
>
> Bill Steele
> cwilliamste...@gmail.com
>
> > On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:37 AM, David via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with
> NPS, and
> > do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase
> in six weeks.
> >
> > I do not have the link in front of me.
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

I got one in Zion National Park last year. It cost me $10 for a lifetime pass. 
It includes everyone in the vehicle with me. I told the NPS guy it was the best 
deal in the country and an incentive to live a long time.

Bill Steele 
cwilliamste...@gmail.com

> On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:37 AM, David via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with NPS, 
> and
> do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase in 
> six weeks.
> 
> I do not have the link in front of me.
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Re: [Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers]

https://www.nps.gov/planyourvisit/passes.htm#CP_JUMP_5088574

Go down to Senior Pass.  Even at $80, it's still a bargain, but the $10
rate is good until Aug 28th, 2017.  Anyone $62 or older should grab up the
$10 lifetime pass before then.

I've been buying the $80 pass for several years now, which is still a
bargain and pays for itself fairly quickly when you go into as many
national parks as we do.

"Each pass covers entrance fees at national parks and national wildlife
refuges as well as standard amenity fees (day use fees) at national forests
and grasslands, and at lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management,
Bureau of Reclamation and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. A pass covers
entrance, standard amenity fees and day use fees for a driver and all
passengers in a personal vehicle at per vehicle fee areas (or up to four
adults at sites that charge per person). Children age 15 or under are
admitted free."

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:37 AM, David via Texascavers <
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> I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with
> NPS, and
> do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase in
> six weeks.
>
> I do not have the link in front of me.
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[Texascavers] National Park Pass fee to increase

[David via Texascavers]

I am sure you all have heard that if you qualify for a Senior Pass with
NPS, and
do not have one that you should order one ASAP as the fee will increase in
six weeks.

I do not have the link in front of me.
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