[Texascavers] FW: Join Us for Salt, Smoke, and Sketchy Slopes: 11 Miles of Survey in Grand Canyon Caves

[Geary Schindel]

Another NSS webinar post.

Cavers,
Have you ever wondered about the cave in the Grand Canyon?? This webinar will 
take you over the rim of the Grand Canyon and show you the details on the 
latest expedition into the amazing caves of the Grand Canyon.


Please forward this email to your email list of people that might be interested.


Cave safely,
Debbie Spoons
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Salt, Smoke, and Sketchy Slopes: 11 Miles of Survey in Grand Canyon Caves 
Presenter: Beth Cortright
Join us for a webinar on Oct 02, 2018 at 8:00 PM CDT.Which is: 9PM EDT/ 7PM MDT/
6PM PDT. Please check your time zone for the correct starting time.
Register now!


In the Grand Canyon National Park, expedition teams have surveyed over 11 miles 
of new cave passage in the past 2 years.

A new cave with large passages and impressive calcite, gypsum, epsomite, and 
mirabilite formations, called Gryffindor Cave, was discovered in 2016. The 
following year, surveyors mapped a connection between Gryffindor Cave and 
Double Bopper Cave, which was already the longest and deepest cave in Arizona.

Expeditions in fall 2017 mapped 5.7 miles of new survey in this system and 
brought the length of Double Bopper Cave to 36.7 miles.
Several accomplished cave photographers were present on these expeditions, 
providing spectacular photographic documentation of the passages, formations, 
and antics of the cavers involved.

This presentation was given in the US Exploration session during the 2018 NSS 
Convention in Helena, Montana. Join us for another look at recent discoveries 
in the newly descovered caves in Grand Canyon National Park.

Presenter: Beth Cortright has been caving for about 11 years. She began 
exploring underground while attending college and primarily caved in south 
central Kentucky, where she learned to survey. During this time, Beth also got 
involved with a group surveying caves in collaboration with archaeologists at 
Maya sites in the Yucatan, Mexico. Through her adventures with the caving group 
in Kentucky and Mexico, Beth was invited on a weeklong expedition into 
Lechuguilla Cave in Carlsbad Caverns National Park in 2011. Beth has since 
returned to Lechuguilla many times, and to many other New Mexico caves as well, 
for more day trips and expeditions. Beth also participates in expeditions to 
Montana’s Bob Marshall Wilderness and Grand Canyon National Park.

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Re: [Texascavers] Glenn Canyon: The Place No One Knew:

[Charles Loving]

Man is always doing his best, either to change the environment or save it.
The planet it evolving as well and what we are doing is pushing it ahead at
a greater speed.We can predict the outcome as long as things are somewhat
constant but given a mega eruption, hit from space, a earth quake on the
coast and there is no telling. Gia holds the joker in the deck.

I have always been at odds with the dam builders. The Chinese destroyed a
whole systme with their mega project a decade ago. Too many people in the
hive will be our undoing. The rise of the Condo Canyon world is to me
disgusting. You can buy a postage stamp with a view of Town Lake and Zilker
Park for 200K. Why does that sound so apauling to me? I guess my mind can't
conceive mega story warrens to store people.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:48 PM Carl Kunath 
wrote:

> The loss of Glenn Canyon is tragic in the extreme.
>
> We can never get it back but may profit from hindsight.  Eliot Porter’s
> book may cause you to reach for a Kleenex.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Place-No-One-Knew-Colorado/dp/0879059710
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
> --
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dwight Deal
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:38 PM
> To: lskinner ; Linda Starr ; Cave NM ; Cave Texas
> Subject: [Texascavers] The Place No One Knew:
>
> Thanks Lee.
>
> I read that.  I was in college (1955) when all that was going on.  Just
> starting to run rivers and cave and listened to a live concert by the
> Weavers with Pete Seager in Troy, NY, who made a pitch against the Glenn
> Canyon Dam. An innovative (at the time) movie of Glenn Canyon had also been
> made using color slides that were panned and zoomed in and out of on 16mm
> film.
>
> I never thought it should have been built in the first place. I am not
> sure how many, if any, caves it flooded.
>
> It will never completely "revert".  But it's a step n the right direction.
>
> Dwight
>
>
>
>
> > On September 19, 2018 at 7:01 PM lskinner  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Linda, Dwight,
> >
> > I'm unable to reply to the list with this id (my computer is in the
> > shop)
> > I recommend Eliot Porter's book The Place No One Knew: Glen Canyon on
> > the Colorado. How many decades to revert to its original pristine
> > condition including disappearance of lake water lines?
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
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