Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Charles Loving
You could end the story telling with a laughing contest. The idea of a
farting contest was nixed by my wife. The last one of those I attended was
a real stinker.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:40 PM Charles Loving  wrote:

> Yes, that was him in his more outrageous and liberal days. As luck would
> have it he wore clothes.
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:38 PM  wrote:
>
>> Excuse me...that's Bill Elliott, Living Fossil!
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE
>> SNORTSNIRTSNOORT
>> COFFCOFFHAKHAKHAK
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> William R. (Bill) Elliott
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:
>>
>> Bill Elliot won the laughing contest at Luckenbach.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:12 PM Bill Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just practiced telling my story and timed it: 3:05. First time out and
>>> it was rough. I can do it in three minutes.
>>>
>>> I’m going to emcee the contest. I’ll start off and go first. I won’t
>>> compete for the prize.
>>>
>>> Bill Steele
>>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
>>>
>>> Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short
>>> version of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or
>>> six-hundred bucks an hour.
>>>
>>> Bill Steele
>>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>>
>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute
>>> rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be
>>> told using that time frame.
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
>>>
>>> Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your
>>> chance to have it pay off.
>>>
>>> The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with
>>> your best one at *midnight, Friday, Oct. 19*. Three minutes max, with a
>>> caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up
>>> with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if
>>> you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a free
>>> TCR registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location
>>> information will be available at the TCR registration booth.
>>>
>>> Bill Steele
>>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Charles Loving
Yes, that was him in his more outrageous and liberal days. As luck would
have it he wore clothes.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:38 PM  wrote:

> Excuse me...that's Bill Elliott, Living Fossil!
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE
> SNORTSNIRTSNOORT
> COFFCOFFHAKHAKHAK
>
> Thanks,
>
> William R. (Bill) Elliott
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:
>
> Bill Elliot won the laughing contest at Luckenbach.
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:12 PM Bill Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> I just practiced telling my story and timed it: 3:05. First time out and
>> it was rough. I can do it in three minutes.
>>
>> I’m going to emcee the contest. I’ll start off and go first. I won’t
>> compete for the prize.
>>
>> Bill Steele
>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>>
>> I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
>>
>> Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short
>> version of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or
>> six-hundred bucks an hour.
>>
>> Bill Steele
>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
>>
>> Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute
>> rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be
>> told using that time frame.
>>
>> On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
>>
>> Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your
>> chance to have it pay off.
>>
>> The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with
>> your best one at *midnight, Friday, Oct. 19*. Three minutes max, with a
>> caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up
>> with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if
>> you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a free
>> TCR registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location
>> information will be available at the TCR registration booth.
>>
>> Bill Steele
>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread speodesmus
Excuse me...that's Bill Elliott, Living Fossil!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE
SNORTSNIRTSNOORT
COFFCOFFHAKHAKHAK

Thanks,

William R. (Bill) Elliott
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:04 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:

Bill Elliot won the laughing contest at Luckenbach.

> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:12 PM Bill Steele  wrote:
> I just practiced telling my story and timed it: 3:05. First time out and it 
> was rough. I can do it in three minutes. 
> 
> I’m going to emcee the contest. I’ll start off and go first. I won’t compete 
> for the prize.
> 
> Bill Steele
> speleoste...@aol.com
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> 
>> I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
>>> Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short version 
>>> of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or 
>>> six-hundred bucks an hour.
>>> 
>>> Bill Steele 
>>> speleoste...@aol.com
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
>>> 
 Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute 
 rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be 
 told using that time frame. 
 
> On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
> Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your 
> chance to have it pay off.
> 
> The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with 
> your best one at midnight, Friday, Oct. 19. Three minutes max, with a 
> caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up 
> with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, 
> if you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a 
>   free TCR registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR 
> honchos. Location information will be available at the TCR registration 
> booth.
> 
> Bill Steele 
> speleoste...@aol.com
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Charles Loving
Bill Elliot won the laughing contest at Luckenbach.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:12 PM Bill Steele 
wrote:

> I just practiced telling my story and timed it: 3:05. First time out and
> it was rough. I can do it in three minutes.
>
> I’m going to emcee the contest. I’ll start off and go first. I won’t
> compete for the prize.
>
> Bill Steele
> speleoste...@aol.com
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>
> I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.
>
> Allan
>
> On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
>
> Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short version
> of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or
> six-hundred bucks an hour.
>
> Bill Steele
> speleoste...@aol.com
>
> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
>
> Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute
> rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be
> told using that time frame.
>
> On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
>
> Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your
> chance to have it pay off.
>
> The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with
> your best one at *midnight, Friday, Oct. 19*. Three minutes max, with a
> caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up
> with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if
> you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a free
> TCR registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location
> information will be available at the TCR registration booth.
>
> Bill Steele
> speleoste...@aol.com
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[Texascavers] Testing

2018-10-11 Thread John Schneider
This is just a test, no response needed. 
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Bill Steele
I just practiced telling my story and timed it: 3:05. First time out and it was 
rough. I can do it in three minutes. 

I’m going to emcee the contest. I’ll start off and go first. I won’t compete 
for the prize.

Bill Steele
speleoste...@aol.com

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> 
> I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
>> Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short version 
>> of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or 
>> six-hundred bucks an hour.
>> 
>> Bill Steele 
>> speleoste...@aol.com
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute rule 
>>> is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be told 
>>> using that time frame. 
>>> 
 On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
 Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your 
 chance to have it pay off.
 
 The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with 
 your best one at midnight, Friday, Oct. 19. Three minutes max, with a 
 caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up 
 with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if 
 you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a 
 free TCR registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location 
 information will be available at the TCR registration booth.
 
 Bill Steele 
 speleoste...@aol.com
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Allan Cobb

I've got my story lined up and can tell it in three minutes.

Allan


On 10/11/2018 2:34 PM, Bill Steele wrote:
Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short 
version of your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, 
or six-hundred bucks an hour.


Bill Steele
speleoste...@aol.com 

On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan > wrote:


Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 
minute rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories 
that won't be told using that time frame.


On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s 
your chance to have it pay off.


The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come 
with your best one at *midnight, Friday, Oct. 19*. Three minutes 
max, with a caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. 
Time-left cards held up with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video 
recorded to put on Facebook, if you agree. The storyteller judged 
best by a panel of judges will win a free TCR registration, to be 
refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location information will be 
available at the TCR registration booth.


Bill Steele
speleoste...@aol.com 


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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Bill Steele
Face the challenge, Logan. Practice with a stopwatch. Tell a short version of 
your best story. The prize is $30 for a three minute story, or six-hundred 
bucks an hour.

Bill Steele 
speleoste...@aol.com

> On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Logan  wrote:
> 
> Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute rule 
> is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't be told 
> using that time frame. 
> 
>> On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
>> Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your 
>> chance to have it pay off.
>> 
>> The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with 
>> your best one at midnight, Friday, Oct. 19. Three minutes max, with a caver 
>> whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up with 2 
>> minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if you 
>> agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a free TCR 
>> registration, to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location information 
>> will be available at the TCR registration booth.
>> 
>> Bill Steele 
>> speleoste...@aol.com
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Logan
Excellent Idea! We should have been doing that for years. The 3 minute 
rule is understandable, but there are many memorable stories that won't 
be told using that time frame.


On 10/11/2018 10:54 AM, Bill Steele wrote:
Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s 
your chance to have it pay off.


The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come 
with your best one at *midnight, Friday, Oct. 19*. Three minutes max, 
with a caver whistle blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left 
cards held up with 2 minutes to go and at 1. To be video recorded to 
put on Facebook, if you agree. The storyteller judged best by a panel 
of judges will win a free TCR registration, to be refunded to you by 
the TCR honchos. Location information will be available at the TCR 
registration booth.


Bill Steele
speleoste...@aol.com 


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Re: [Texascavers] Bill Steele Saw The Truth

2018-10-11 Thread Bruce
Not a conspiracy theory, I really have heard people say I’m not a real caver, 
it was just a comment on the in group out group social dynamics typical of all 
special interest groups no matter how small. Nonetheless, I remain confused 
(about a lot of things!). I still don’t know if my posts from Peru made it out 
of cyber perdition to the list at large for I certainly haven’t seen them. 
Perhaps that is due to the method of delivery I have chosen? (Digest I think?) 
I still don’t know why I invariably get a message in return stating that my 
post awaits moderation, perhaps something to do with implicit destination 
whatever that means? It is my usual practice to send the post to myself then 
BCC the list and any other interested friends. Despite my efforts to wean 
myself from the evils of AOL I believe I have used a registered AOL address on 
all submissions. Am I wrong? Did I change my registered address? Por favor, 
someone set me straight!

 

SW

 

From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Charles 
Loving
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:25 PM
To: Cavers Texas 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Steele Saw The Truth

 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:02 PM Katherine Arens mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu> > wrote:

it meant you sent them to the list from your OTHER email . . . not the one 
you’re registered with.  No conspiracy theories, please.

On Oct 10, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Bruce mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com> > wrote:

 

I have heard it said many times, both to my face and otherwise, that “The so 
called Weazel isn’t a ‘real’ caver”. It is true that I generally dislike cold, 
wet, muddy, dark places, have never surveyed an inch, and have an unconquerable 
terror of heights including exposure to anything over 18 inches below where I 
am standing. I prefer not to participate in anything resembling an organized 
trip, much less an official expedition, and I rarely if ever go to grotto 
meetings. In fact, I’m not even a current member of any grotto, especially the 
ones here in Florida that resemble a cross between a boy scout troop and a 
church group.  The fact that during the last 55 years (I started when I was 15 
or so) I have visited many hundreds of pits and thousands of caves around the 
world apparently doesn’t count. As in politics, the only thing that counts is 
whether or not you are a member of ‘MY’ group, otherwise you are an imposter or 
one of ‘them the others’. 

 

SW

 

Ps: While in Peru for the last two months I sent several trip reports to this 
list but have no idea if any of them made it through. All I have ever gotten 
was a notification that “This post awaits moderator approval” or something to 
that effect. The lack of echoes makes me think I have just been shouting in the 
dark to no effect. Am I the new David? Have my posts gone through or have they 
been rejected as coming from someone who isn’t a ‘real’ caver? 

 

From: Texascavers <  
texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> On Behalf Of Logan
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:47 AM
To:   texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Bill Steele Saw The Truth

 

Yep, I think many of us have had that experience. Mention caving and listen to 
a long description of their harrowing adventures at Enchanted Rock, Garner 
State Park, or Gorman Cave back when it was privately owned and open to 
everyone. Amazing how many "undiscovered" caves there are out there with 
"miles' of passage that cavers have never seen. Sure, there are some, but not 
the ones these folks describe. 

On 10/9/2018 1:11 AM, Carl Kunath wrote:

Bill is exactly right.  It’s an inconvenient truth that you are allowed to 
characterize yourself as a caver despite only minimal, sometimes miniscule, 
participation in that activity.  Seen from another viewpoint, those peripheral 
experiences may have been powerful enough to last a lifetime.  I have 
encountered the same things/memories/claims as Bill.  It IS very much an 
individual frame of reference.

 

===Carl Kunath

  carl.kun...@suddenlink.net

 


  _  


 

 

From:   Bill Steele

In my 42 years of living in Texas I have run into two people who said their 
fathers were cavers and when I later met the fathers it turned out they went to 
Bustamante (Grutas del Palmito) once when in college. It comes down to your 
point of reference.

 

Bill Steele 

  speleoste...@aol.com


 

 

 

 


 

 

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[Texascavers] TCR Caver Storytelling Contest

2018-10-11 Thread Bill Steele
Cavers love telling stories. There are countless good ones. Here’s your chance 
to have it pay off.

The DFW Grotto is hosting a Caver Storytelling Contest at TCR. Come with your 
best one at midnight, Friday, Oct. 19. Three minutes max, with a caver whistle 
blast to tell you your time is up. Time-left cards held up with 2 minutes to go 
and at 1. To be video recorded to put on Facebook, if you agree. The 
storyteller judged best by a panel of judges will win a free TCR registration, 
to be refunded to you by the TCR honchos. Location information will be 
available at the TCR registration booth.

Bill Steele 
speleoste...@aol.com
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[Texascavers] Help unloading TCR firewood at Paradise Canyon

2018-10-11 Thread Denise P

I could use 1 to 3 people to help me unload the TCR firewood at Paradise Canyon 
around 1 PM this Sunday OCT 14

Please let me know if you can help @ 
jsschneid...@gvtc.com

Thanks,

John Schneider

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