Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report
re:records. back in the mid 70s Randy Waters used to do a lot out at that place /area. Kurt Menking or George Veni might know what records from that era exist Charles Goldsmith wrote: A big thanks to all of the help for the tank haul to the sump in Cascade Caverns on Saturday. James Brown dove the sump, starting at 10:36am and resurfanced approximately 40 minutes later. James extended the cave by 366 feet until he ran out of guideline. Per his report, Start of Sump dive is the smallest at 6 feet wide and 2 feet high. Underwater passage after air bell averages 12 feet wide and 6 feet high. Maximum depth is 31 feet. We'll be going back at the end of January or beginning of February to push this further. Thanks go out to the following people:Tom SimsGerry GeletzkeDavid SerafineLayne HedrickIan RiddingtonBrandon CookAndy ZenkerLyndon TiuPeter Druschke Gerry and Andy also explored Raccoon Ramada cave that is on the property, but did not get a survey yet. We'll be returning to do that as well. The entrance to this is a very tight squeeze and I don't know anyone else that has squeezed into it. I'd be curious if there are any records of this. Charles
Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard?
thanks: I am tired of deleting you have my support on this Charles Goldsmith wrote: Ok, this is enough, people are obviously passionate about these topics, but its not related to caving directly. Take it to the OT list. I do not want to see anymore postings on this subject. ThanksCharles - list administrator On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:37 PM, A. Wertheim werthei...@hotmail.com wrote: If your people didnt provide the demand then maybe it wouldnt be such a problem. Maybe you should just legalize it. Arron From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: caveran...@yahoo.com Cc: Cavetex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Fw: Scary Border Stuff...Why Haven't We Heard? I thought attachments werent allowed on the list.. Charles, are you still asleep or something? with that behind let me just say a couple things: first, read through, it was not Monterrey but Higueras NL second this is not the first gun cache that our armed forces hace seized (this is like the fourth or fifth one and others have been larger) third most if not all of this weapons are gringo made so stop complaining about violence spilling over to your side of the river if it is exactly that side where this weapons are coming from.. yes the bad guys are better armed because yall�s government cant do shit about arms coming into my country. things wouldnt be this way if your country wasnt the major drug consumer in the world, or my country wasnt located right next to it. back to my corner Nico
Re: [Texascavers] Postings of late
on behalf of all the consultants who must monitor cavetex, and especially on behalf of all of us cavers who work professionally with karst in one way or another, thank you so very much.for this last post Charles Goldsmith wrote: As anyone that has been on this mailing list for any length of time, you'll know that the flood of emails come in cycles and that when the stars align as well as the moon is in the right phase, we get a deluge of emails that probably shouldn't be here. As the list owner, I get sent a few comments every now and then, sometimes I take action, sometimes I just ignore unless the issue or statement is repeated, and sometimes it just depends on how the email strikes me that day or my mood. Since I took over in 2006, I've always intended for this list to be self moderated, everyone here is an adult in at least their age, if not their personality, and 99% of the rude comments wouldn't be said to the person's face, or in front of a group of almost 300 like this. If you see a comment on the list that you don't like, please don't respond to all, send a private email to that person only. There have been times that I've done this, and others that I'll reply to all, but I'm mainly doing this to make an example out of a person. Most of you know, many forget, that we have cave/land owners, government employees (of our parks and caves) and some very important people (at least in the caving community) on this list. How you portray yourself on here reflects on us all. You have created a reputation that has helped in some cases, and destroyed us as a community in others. Unfortunately, even through the TSA does not own this list, but has helped it out financially, it is associated with this list in some eyes, and because of this, the TSA has a few black marks against it. Only time will resolve that little problem. Before this email gets to long, this is a simple request, and its pretty much common sense. Stop and think before you hit that send button. Is it relevant to everyone that is a TexasCaver? Would you say it to the persons face in front of everyone at a convention? There are a few people who need to grow up, a few who need to relax, and everyone else needs to hit the delete key, enjoy the entertainment and move on :) If anyone has questions, comments, complaints or gripes, send them to me, off-list please Charles list administrator who is on his soap box today - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Please Become a Digital Online Member
there are a lot of agency and consultign folks who's jobs involve caves insome way and most of them monitor what goes on via cavetex something a lot of caves are not mindful of Charles Goldsmith wrote: Joe, I I'm going speak to one thing here, since I administer and run both (and the same) that you mention here. When I took over CaveTex, Bill handed me the reins, membership list and website. I only updated a few instructions on the site, but left it the same as he had it. Yes, it has a disclaimer on it about it not being the official list for TSA or any other group. I think the majority of the CaveTex membership wants it this way, while TSA members are a large part of the CaveTex members, there are many here who aren't. If the TSA wants its own list for updates, member talk, etc, I'd be happy to set one up, but to be honest, I don't think its necessary. TSA doesn't have anything to hide from non-members. Do I take pride in not having CaveTex as the official TSA voice? No, and it wasn't meant that way I don't think. I'm a proud (and vocal) member of TSA, TCMA, NSS and few other organizations. Charles CaveTex list administrator flunky On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:31 AM, jran...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Mark - *TexasCavers.com and CaveTex before it seemed to take pride in not being affiliated with TSA. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
cavetex and OTtex
Do not listen to Mr Wes. I think you are doing a great job with something that is very difficult. I think that the setting up of the OT tex list was a great move and one of the best win/win solutions that anyone could have come up with. It is so much in keeping with the all inclusive traditions that we have long strived for in Texas caving. I hope that everyone will accept and honor this new arrangement and then maybe we can get back a number of the people who dropped cavetex
CaveTex: dye trace
here is a link to a short but interesting story about a dye tracing study being done in Florida http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050727/LOCAL/207270316/1078/SCENE To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to mailto:majord...@cavetex.net with the following message--unsubscribe cavetex. For help and information go to www.cavetex.net. List administrator: mailto:jswh...@cavetex.net
CaveTex: TCR date
The date for this years Texas Cavers Reunion will be October 14th 15th and 16th. the location will be announced soon. It will be as usual somewhere in Central Texas, probabally near some sort of water. anyone who wishes to help with the many tasks from cooking to running events should contact me or Alan Cobb. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to mailto:majord...@cavetex.net with the following message--unsubscribe cavetex. For help and information go to www.cavetex.net. List administrator: mailto:jswh...@cavetex.net
