Re: [Texascavers] A mobile-camp-kitchen idea.
Google tells me that Loews is a Canadian hotel chain. And I already have a camp kitchen, so I'm not driving that far north and staying in that hotel just to get another one. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone Mobile email from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2017, at 1:46 PM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > LOEW's Store has a large heavy-duty plastic box on wheels > that has a unique feature. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Digging Question
Track hoe with a grapple (claw-type grabber attachment). Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:08 AM, John Brooks via Texascavers > wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone had experience or techniques for extracting bailing > wire plugs from a sinkhole ? > > We know where the really good leads are on a ranch because the rancher that > previously owned the property threw bailing wire into the really nice > sinkholes to plug the holes up. > We have looped chains through the bailing wire and pulled plugs out of > several sinkholes successfullyand found several new caves. > > The "plugged" sinks are upstream of a very large cave in the recharge area. > > But one of the best sinkhole leads has us mystified. > > The bailing wire is rusted and fragile. And there is significant organic > matter captured in the wire mat. So the previous technique is not working. > > We have several untested ideas. > > But thought someone might have experienced this before. Any ideas ? > > Please contact me offline with responses. > > John Brooks > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Survey class
In case you didn't see it on the UT Grotto Facebook page, this week's survey class is being postponed until next week. Sorry, but I'm working out of state this week. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] looking for tips - caving in Missouri
Contact Jonathan Beard, and tell him Crash sent you. He's in the NSS Members Manual. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2017, at 9:21 AM, jaycc Jordan via Texascavers > wrote: > > > Hello cavers, > > I'm a member of the Greater Houston Grotto and I am visiting family in > Springfield Missouri until this Sunday. > > I know there are tons of caves in this area and the Ozark mountains > > I have my caving gear and I would love to do at least one wild cave while I > am here, I don't mind traveling a bit out of the way either. So, if anyone > has any tips on where I should go or if you want to go caving with me please > let me know. > > Thank you! > > - Jordan > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] WHERE IS VICO?
Right now, Vico is here at Stefan's going-away party. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > I am told that I need to be in touch with Vico > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter
James (and other interested cavers), Bill posted the direct link, but as always, this information and so much more (PDFs of out-of-print issues! Downloadable cave maps!) can be found on the AMCS website. To order, basically PayPal us the money and send your address and we will get it right out. There are other options, like sending a check by mail or buying in person from us in Austin or at events like TCR. Give me a shout and we can work something out. Jim "Crash" Kennedy AMCS Sales cavercr...@gmail.com 512-663-2287 Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:43 AM, JAMES JASEK via Texascavers > wrote: > > How do I place an order for #40 > > Jim >> On Jul 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> There is an article on scanning that room in the new AMCS Activities >> Newsletter 40, and there will be another one in number 41 next year >> (advertisement). 396 meters long, 242 m wide, and 225 m high. Volume 5.9 >> million cubic meters. -- Mixon >> >> Nature is a hanging judge. >> >> You may "reply" to the address this message >> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >> came from, but for long-term use, save: >> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or edi...@mexicancaves.org >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] book review: Twelve Miles from Daylight
They are available from the authors here at the NSS Convention for only $44.95. I bought mine on Mindy. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > "Twelve Miles from Daylight: Fort Stanton Cave and the Snowy River > Discovery." Edited by Pete Lindsley and Lee Skinner. Fort Stanton Cave Study > Project, Placitas, New Mexico. ISBN 978-0-939748-83-9. 9 by 12 inches, > softbound, vi+306 pages+foldout. $54.95. > > For too many years, Fort Stanton Cave has been in the shadow of New Mexico’s > Lechuguilla Cave, the subject of several books, one published in three > languages and one a trilogy of e-books. This new large-format book should go > far to redress that. Since the 1950s, organized cavers have extended the cave > to over thirty-one miles of passage, including the amazing Snowy River > Passage that runs eleven miles north-south and gives the overall line-plot on > a topo map an extent that appears to dwarf famous caves that are in fact > longer. There are color photographs on most pages, including over thirty > full-page ones. Simple maps of parts of the cave clarify the geography. While > there is a lot of other information, the bulk of the text consists of trip > reports by a large number of authors, which should enhance its appeal to > cavers. > > There have been significant delays in exploration caused by a persnickety > owner for such things as environmental assessments, but overall the BLM seems > to have been reasonably accommodating. In the early years, efforts focussed > on long and arduous digs in the old part of the cave that resulted in its > considerable expansion. Things changed dramatically on September 1, 2001, > when a dig led to the discovery of the Snowy River Passage, largely walking > and in places providing plenty of obvious good leads. The passage gets its > name from the layer of white calcite that coats the floor of the stream bed > for its entire length. The passage proved not all that easy to follow. To > avoid soiling the Snowy River, parties had to change from dirty to clean > clothes every time they had been forced to walk on mud banks or breakdown by > some obstruction, and eventually even small, fast parties of young and fit > cavers were making “day trips” over thirty hours long; sometimes they > returned with over a mile of new survey. The project was eventually given > permission to establish a campsite near the far end of exploration, but it > has been used only twice. > > Perhaps the most impressive single accomplishment in the book is the digging > and shoring of a new and safer access shaft to the Snowy River. This is over > forty feet deep, and 222 cavers are credited in an appendix with helping in > the effort. > > The several people credited with checking and proofreading have done a good > job, and the text is clear and mostly free of errors. The layout is garish > and ignores some common standards. The reader will have to dodge the numerous > and often lengthy sidebars in some of the early chapters, but later chapters > are better organized. Don’t ignore the sidebars, though. They contain a lot > of historical information, impressions and reports by many cavers, and > science notes. The most important event in the entire book, the discovery of > the Snowy River Passage, is buried in a sidebar at the end of chapter 6. The > photographs are well selected and well prepared, although I wonder whether > some of the colors are not exaggerated. Appendices include a glossary and an > index that is thorough but lists people by their first names. > > As this is written, based on a final PDF of the book provided by Pete > Lindsley, the cave has been closed by the BLM because of white-nose syndrome, > and anyway travel in the Snowy River passage has been forbidden for the past > couple of years because the steam is flowing and it is feared that the > calcite floor will be too delicate when wet. It is not yet clear how much of > the time the stream flows; this is not the first time that has been seen. The > government also doesn’t want cavers to push beyond its property lines. I kind > of hope they have and are just not talking about it. In any case, we’re sure > to eventually hear a lot more about this spectacular cave. Meanwhile, buy > this book. > --Bill Mixon > > Nature is a hanging judge. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] meat for TCR
Axis, aoudad, and pig is all good. If the new cooks don't want it, I'll take it. Vico and I can butcher and freeze it, and enjoy it cooked in many delicious dishes. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > OK get in touch with Vico. We can work on this. We will have to shoot the > small ones. Mac and I will set up traps next week and bait them. We were > getting one a day for about three months awhile back. what about Aoudads? > They are pretty rank but the small ones are sort of like cabrito. They are a > pest too, destroy crops and such. And of course we could get an Axisi deer. > The vegans will rebel I am sure and the PETA people will freak out but these > three types of critters are bad news. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] 15th Laguna de Sanchez survey expedition
After a long break, we will be returning to the Laguna de Sánchez area in Nuevo León over spring break (11-19 March) to continue surveying the numerous caves there (about 140 at last count). Vertical competence is useful but not totally necessary. Contact me offlist if interested. Details on the area and past trips can be found on the Project page at www.garot.com/LdeS. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Mike Walsh contact?
mikewaus...@austin.rr.com (512) 249-2283 Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > I have received in inquiry from a caver in the eastern US about the Texas > caver who has a place in Aquismón, Mexico. That would be Mike Walsh, but I > have no current contact info for him at all. Presumably the e-mail address > tcc-caves@... no longer works, because the TCC no longer exists. He is not in > the latest NSS list. Can anyone enlighten me via a personal response? -- Mixon > > A chicken is the egg's way of making another egg. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Caver Toyota For Sale]
So who posted that, and how much do they want for it? Crash ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Cave gate help needed
Cavers, I'm looking for someone to help with three cave gates in northern Hays County, starting this Wednesday. I have one paid position for all three gates (up to five days, but should take less), and opportunities for volunteers Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday if you can't commit to the whole time. Contact me offlist if interested. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] email clients
That's funny! Most of mine come from "Marvin Miller!" Crash Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] CaveSim
Cavers, I was talking to Dave Jackson at the NSS Convention a couple of weeks ago, and he was wondering if we wanted CaveSim at TCR again this year. He would love to come again, but I think we had to raise about $1500 last year to cover his expenses. TCR Honcho Don Arburn said it was very popular, but he doesn't have time this year to raise the money. Is anyone out there in caverland willing to take on this responsibility? It's a great addition to TCR. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Road-trip ??
David, I will personally pledge $25 if you realize this is a senseless, foolhardy adventure and just stay home. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers > wrote: > > David, > > I’m willing to pledge $20 to help with your travel expenses to have you > attend the Howdy Party at the NSS Convention. I’ll also buy you a beer at the > party (food and beer are part of registration for the event). I figure it is > worth the money to read you posts related to your travel to Nevada. You know > that gambling and prostitution are legal in Nevada. > > Maybe we should treat this like a Texas Caver crowd source funding and if > other chipped in some bucks, we might be able to help with a significant cost > for your trip. Some folks may be interested in chipping in just to get you > out of Texas for a while LOL. > > Geary > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > David via Texascavers > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 11:25 AM > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] Road-trip ?? > > There is a 4 % chance I am leaving Houston tonight ( Friday ) and driving to > Vegas in my new 2008 Sequoia SUV. > > I am tentatively offering a one-way ride to Vegas as I pass thru Austin or > San Antonio. I have room for 3 people. > > Waiting on my jerk customers to pay me, before I can commit. > > Not planning on making it to Ely unless stars suddenly line up in a divine > miraculous way, meaning 3 supernovas would have to suddenly appear forming a > perfect Equilateral Triangle bright above the western horizon. > > David Locklear > 281-995-8487 ( text-line ) > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Information
Daniel, Check your NSS Members Manual. It's one of the great, often-overlooked benefits of being a member. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Caver via Texascavers > wrote: > > To all > I didn't think of it before I came but I'm in California. I tried to contact > a person via email from a grotto in Fresno. But haven't heard anything back > and it's been about 4 days. I would like to do a little caving while I'm > here. Will be here for another week and a half. Do any of you know of a > contact person around the Fresno area that is a caver? Preferably driving > distance. Or even a list of great hiking day trips. > Any help is appreciated. > Thanks > > Daniel Ramirez > (Formerly DFW grotto) > > P.S. > I should attend one of the Bexar grotto meetings at some point since that's > the closest one to where I live now. 3-4 hr drive. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Inner Space Caverns
It was actually "Laubach." Crash. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sam Young via Texascavers > wrote: > > David Locklear Said: "Inner Space was Laughbach cave when I first went in. > You had to go down a vent pipe of some sort." > > Yes, but before it was Laughbach cave, it was just called "Core Hole Cave". ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Locklear
Finally, something we can all relate to. Jim > In summary, I do not know what the heck I am talking about. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know who posted all this good information. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > > Just to provide a different perspective, only 1 in 5 even know have Zika > related illness when they are exposed. It's not 'spiraling out of control' - > it's new to North America, yes. It's likely one of many illnesses that go > through populations and become part of the infectious tapestry that we all > live in. Is anyone reading alarmist articles about Heartland virus or Lone > Star fever? > > Guillan-Barre syndrome is secondary to number of viruses, it's nothing > specific to Zika. > > Microcephaly is seen in population in general, only about 1 in 100 mothers > infected with Zika are affected. For comparison, about 40k people die in > traffic accidents a year in brazil, 40K in US, 200K in India. Malaria kills 1 > million people a year. > > RK > > See http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/305163.php > Symptoms of Zika virus > > Signs and symptoms of Zika virus are vague and can last for up to a week. > Diagnosis of the virus is typically confirmed with a blood test.1 > Symptoms of Zika virus include:1,2 > Fever > Rash > Joint pain > Conjunctivitis (red eyes) > Muscle pain > Headache > Pain behind the eyes > Vomiting. > According to the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), only 1 in 4 people > infected with Zika virus develop symptoms.5 In contrast, the CDC state the > figure is 1 in 5. > In the past, there have also been reports of patients developing > Guillain-Barré syndrome following a Zika virus infection. Guillain-Barré > syndrome is a rare but serious autoimmune disorder that affects the central > nervous system.6 > Infection with the Zika virus is rarely severe enough to warrant > hospitalization, and it is rarer still for an individual to die as a result.6 > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Rocksprings
I live for these tales! More, please! Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2016, at 1:54 PM, via Texascavers > wrote: > > The Wandering Weazel is dismayed that there have been no reports on this list > of the fine time had by all in Rocksprings. I, for one, much enjoyed meeting > old friends and exploring the Edwards plateau. My only complaint was a lack > of snakes at Kickapoo Cavern where I enjoyed a few days of rest and hiking. > The wildflowers were in full bloom everywhere. > > At present I am in the delightful town of Muzquiz, Coahuila. Who would have > thunk there would be enormous cypress trees in the desert? In search of > authenticity as always, last night I found a cantina of extraordinary > funktitude. In addition to the usual Sicaros and drunken cowboys, the decor > included various deer, cow, and horse skulls, sombreros, guns, whips, lassos, > rusted spurs, and a life sized Martian dressed like a vacquero and sprouting > an enormous erection. I doubled over in laughter then turned around to > discover that other giant penises were protruding from beneath the bar at > waist height. The bartender could wiggle them at will. That was when I headed > for the door. And you thought all the gay cowboys were in Dallas? Later on at > a different establishment I broke the heart of an antiquated lady of the > night who wept as I fled into the night. So far so good. The adventure > continues! > > Sleazeweazel > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Best padlocks for cave gates
Travis, Having been involved with dozens (maybe hundreds) of cave gates around the country, I recommend brass Best locks. And stay away from any rubberized locks, they aren't any better and usually cost more. Lubricate with powdered graphite only, no oil or WD40 or such. And change out the locks periodically, especially in wet, muddy, or dusty situations. Despite what what Mixon espouses, cave resources are definitely worth protecting, and arguably more valuable than my house and possessions. Those can be replaced. That's why the old NSS "Cave Gating" book and it's "weak link" philosophy of gating are obsolete. For a more up-to-date approach, check out the cave gate chapter in NSS' "Cave Conservation and Restoration" book. All this, of course, assumes a well-designed and constructed gate. A poor gate can have entirely the opposite effect, and cause more problems than it solves. All it takes is one jerk to ruin things forever. The Butterfly at Caverns of Sonora is a prime example. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:58 AM, Travis Scott via Texascavers > wrote: > > Folks, > > I have recently been struggling with the padlocks on cave gates that have > become corroded and basically unusable. Even brand new padlocks that were > placed on the gate and left for a few years are becoming unusable. These > gates are designed with an arm hole which allows you to reach the padlock > hanging on the inside of a solid gate. Once the padlock is removed, a lever > is moved and the gate opens. The problem is that the padlocks sit in the wet > warm environment (sometimes years at a time) collecting dust, dirt and > corrosion as air moves past due to the cave breathing. Several locks have > recently taken over an hour to open whilst in the most uncomfortable > positions, meanwhile with the fear that the key might break off in the lock > or the lock will never open, etc.. > > I am wondering if anyone has had the experience or research to whittle down > the best types of locks that can handle this environment and still continue > to function properly. I have researched corrosion aspects of different > tumblers (no real conclusion on which is best). Other cavers have told me > that the locks with the rubber housing around the entire lock, including the > key hole, are no better than a normal Masterlock for example. We have tried > both the most expensive locks and the cheaper ones, but none seem to hold up. > > Does anyone have any experience with this or have any light they can shed? > > Thank you so very much!!! > > > Travis Scott > tra...@oztotl.com > 979.450.0103 (cell) ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] school kids at TSA Spring Convention
Cool, thanks! Keep trying! Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Crash > I talked to the schools and let them know. I don't know if there was any > excitement. These are really back water schools. A teacher friend says these > two schools are really very dumb. Sorry but I tried. Will keep after it. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Rolling Oaks Cave Preserve workday
Posted for Ellie Falgout: We're having another volunteer work day at Rolling Oaks Cave Preserve in Bexar County (northwest San Antonio) on Saturday, May 28th at 10am. The main purposes are to clean up the grounds (trash and branches) and to continue the dig at Niche Cave, which is full of old farm trash and sediment that is washing in. We need people, buckets, & shovels. Bring your own drinks and snacks for the work. TCMA will provide bottled water, bananas and light lunch. The cave preserve is located at 224 Laurel Ridge Lane, San Antonio, TX 78253. All visitors to the Preserve will be asked to sign a liability waiver. Meet at 10:00 am. Bring your own cave gear if you wish to enter any of the four Preserve caves after the dig. I can be reached at 509-899-0007 or ellie.tho...@gmail.com in case any one gets lost, or if you would like coordinate more details. No need to RSVP if you are attending, just show up! Trip will be canceled in the event of rain. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Spring Convention registration now open!
The 2016 TSA Spring Convention website is now live, and you can register now for price cheaper than the past two years. If you procrastinate and register on site, it will be substantially more. Go to http://convention.cavetexas.org/ now, don't delay! Webmaster Quast and Treasurer Peña deserve tons of credit for pulling this all together. Jim Kennedy TSA Vice-Chair and 2016 Convention coordinator Mobile email from my iPhone___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Shiner donation
Looking for a volunteer to stop by Shiner on their way to Rocksprings on 22 April to pick up their donations. You know of which I am speaking. Contact me offlist if interested and able. Jim Kennedy TSA Vice Chair 512-663-2287 cavercr...@gmail.com p.s. I'm I'm Mexico until the 24th, but I have intermittent internet access. Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] It is done- a Honey Creek update.
I would love to see this written up in The TEXAS CAVER! Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:21 AM, A. Wertheim wrote: > > > > Original message > From: "A. Wertheim" > Date: 03/07/2016 10:40 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Victoria Sommers > Subject: It is done- a Honey Creek update. > > Well friends, the Honey Creek road repair project is finished. The road to > the shaft entrance has never been better and will probably never be as good > again. Team “Go Big Or Go Home” brought their best game in a road-working > tour-de-force and not only repaired Joyce’s damaged road but made it useable > for many years to come. All the stops were pulled out to make this project a > success. > > > > > > Here’s the rundown: > > > > Volunteers: > > Tim Ramon-Project Leader > > 8!, count-em, 8! of Tim’s employees volunteered to help on a Saturday. > > Kim Freund-Food and > drinks for a lot of hungry, dusty men > > Kurt Menking-Equipment > operator, planning, organization, landowner relations > > Arron Wertheim- That’s me. I got to > run some equipment and swing a chainsaw. > > Victoria Sommers-Photo documentation, > lunch > > Robert Bissett- Equipment > operator, fundraising, organization > > Gregg “Breaks Thumbs” Williams Fundraising > > > > Equipment: > > (Courtesy of Ramon & Sons Demolition, Inc.) > > Case Backhoe > > Case Compact Track Loader > > Takeuchi Compact Track Loader > > 68000lb Kenilworth roll-off truck with a 20 YARD dump box > > 500 gallon Water Buffalo > > Trucks, Trailers > > Replacement drain pipes > > Replacement gate posts donated for future installation > > > > (Courtesy of BCI & Bracken Bat Cave) > > 8000lb Tandem Dump Trailer > > > > Funding: > > Bexar Grotto > > TCMA > > TSA > > Mr. Jerry Atkinson > > Mr. Joe Ranzou > > Mr. Greg Passmore > > Greater Houston Grotto > > TCR > > > > Project Timeline: > > Saturday and Sunday, March 5 & 6 2016 with good weather. > > > > Project Plan and Action: > > > > The original plan was to rent a couple skidsteers and borrow the dump trailer > from Bracken to patch the road. When Tim volunteered to help out and review > the project, it quickly became apparent that almost a mile of damaged road > would take a lot more time and effort than a couple Bobcats would be able to > handle. The heavy fall rains had made the road damage more pronounced. > Beers would be spilled trying to drive it. Unacceptable. Several different > repair options were discussed and a final few were selected based on the > value of this work and on reasonable fundraising expectations. It’s a ranch > road, not paved access; and while it was damaged during a rainy caving trip, > it also had not been properly maintained since it was originally built. > Ultimately a backhoe, skidsteer, and bumper-pull dump trailer were decided on > with expected costs of up to $1400/1500. > > > > When Kurt and I showed up Saturday morning there was A LOT more equipment > than expected, men in orange vests, traffic cones, a low-boy trailer, and > tons of things going on. Tim had taken a second look at the project scope > and confirmed his initial thoughts that to get the work done in one weekend > we needed to go big or go home. He asked one of his crew to help out on a > Saturday and that quickly grew to 8 hard-working men in steel-toe workboots, > hardhats, and safety vests doing what they do best. > > > > Tim’s guys worked till 5:00 on Saturday and moved enough material to re-pack > the whole road. A 20-yard dump truck can load a ridiculous amount of > material. The box is 23ftx8ftx4.5ft. Caliche weighs 2430.57 lbs/cubic yard. > That is 48611 pounds of material per load (as an engineer I just had to > know.) A Bobcat has a ½ yard bucket. The dump trailer can load 4 yards. > Anyways, watching the driver gently back that loaded roll-on behemoth between > oak trees without so much as a nick to the bark or a snapped twig was > amazing. Joyce had been adamant about protecting her oak trees. Well, > without the 20-yard dump truck and experienced equipment operators this would > probably have been a 2 or 3 weekend project with additional rental and > transport costs. > > > > Kurt and Rob ran the Bracken dump trailer loaded to the max until its > hydraulics whined in tired complaint. When the dumper decided to take a dump > from being overloaded, we grabbed shovels and unloaded it by hand. Short > loads only after that! When it had to be lifted by the track loader to dump > we knew it was finished. > > > > Tim ran his track loader at redline all day
Re: [Texascavers] Spring TSA meeting
Folks, please belay any previous announcements about the TSA Spring Convention. They are premature. We do not yet have confirmation on the dates or the site yet. But if all goes as planned, it will be the dates and site mentioned. Believe me, after the first of the year you will be inundated with my big media blitz promoting said event. Jim "Crash" Kennedy TSA Vice-Chair Elect and TSA Spring Convention Coordinator Mobile email from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers > wrote: > > > Has a date for the spring TSA meeting been set yet. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Party next Saturday
Sure, we all know by now that the Austin caver Hallowen party is at Drew Thompson's house tomorrow evening. But don't forget that the all-cavers-invited Batty Baby Shower is at our house the following Saturday, starting around 2 in the afternoon. Potluck. We'll likely have a keg, but other contributions welcome. Pray for good weather, although we'll put up a big white canopy just in case. Call if you need directions or more info. And no, we won't know the baby's sex until it arrives in mid-January. Jim Kennedy Yaz Avila 512-663-2287 Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] historic posting
If you are on Facebook, another good place is the Texas Speleological Survey page. You can even start your own photo album there. Jim Kennedy TSS office manager Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 14, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers > wrote: > > Sure, why not. Be interesting to see what you have. > > Jerry. > jerryat...@aol.com > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 14, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Greg Passmore via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> I have bunch of historic caving articles, photos, etc. Is this list an >> appropriate place to post these or should we start up a texas caving history >> list? >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Punkin Cave Photo
Dave Bunnell. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > Anybody know who took that very nice but uncredited photo of Punkin Cave that > is in the September NSS News? -- Mixon > > True bravery is shown by performing without witnesses what one might be > capable of doing before all the world. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bat Research Associate Position Announcement
Sounds like it should pay twice what it does. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:43 PM, via Texascavers > wrote: > > Sounds like a good job for crash > > Galen Falgout > >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Bat Research Associate Position Announcement >> >> Position Title: Research Associate, Bat Ecology and WNS >> >> Hiring Unit: Texas A&M Institute of Renewable Natural Resources >> >> Job Type: Full-Time >> >> Salary: $36,000, State of Texas benefits, TRS retirement >> >> Pay Basis: Salaried, monthly >> >> Location: Various Statewide >> >> Major/Essential Duties: In close coordination with Principal Investigators, >> implement a field study on the distribution, abundance, and roost use of >> bats across Texas with emphasis on the northern and north-eastern portions >> of the state adjacent to Oklahoma. The study goal is to obtain data prior to >> the arrival of White Nose Syndrome (WNS) in the study areas. Responsible for >> coordinating activities with state and federal agencies, as well as private >> organizations; hiring and training field crew; managing budgets; collecting >> and processing data; data analyses and report preparation; working closely >> with private landowners. >> >> Occasional Duties: Actively communicate research results in peer-reviewed >> journals; make presentations at various public and scientific meetings. >> Perform other project-related duties as necessary. >> >> Required Education: MS in wildlife science, biology/zoology, ecology, or >> closely related fields. Individuals holding a Ph.D. are also encouraged to >> apply. Possibility exists for MS degree holding individual to obtain Ph.D. >> as part of the project. >> >> Required Experience: Direct, independent field experience with bats >> including capture and handling using standard techniques. Also required is >> experience in hiring and managing field crews, working with government >> agencies and private organizations, handling data sets, performing >> statistical analyses, and preparing reports. >> >> Preferred Experience: Previous involvement with bat studies of WNS. Working >> knowledge of GIS systems such as ArcGIS. >> >> Required licenses: Valid and current drivers license. >> >> Special Knowledge: Protocols involving WNS for handling bats. >> >> To apply: The following material must be contained in a single pdf file that >> is titled with your last and first name (e.g., Smith, Mary): Cover letter >> that is responsive to the position requirements; Resume; List of references >> with current email and phone number; and university transcripts (unofficial >> scan requested). Please email to Dr. Michael Morrison at >> mlmorri...@tamu.edu. The position start date is negotiable but applicants >> must be able to start by early November; earlier starting dates are >> encouraged. The position will remain open until filled, and applications >> will be reviewed as they are received. Please direct any questions to Dr. >> Morison’s email address. >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] used sheet metal roofing up for grabs
Me, please! At least some of it. I'm siding the garage. I can get it tomorrow. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > I have ~1500 sq ft of used sheet-metal roofing for whoever wants it. It is in > galvanized sheets 14 by 3 feet, not rusty. Could be used for privacy fence, > shed or barn walls, or even roofing if screw holes plugged or reused. Could > be hauled on my trailer to destination in Austin area. Contact me off list > (address below). -- Mixon > > True bravery is shown by performing without witnesses what one might be > capable of doing before all the world. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] PSA, houses available in south Austin caver neighborhood
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Re: [Texascavers] GHG Minutes from April 21, 2015
Thanks for the excellent minutes, Holly. But I am only the auctioneer, not MC. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:31 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers > wrote: > > The GHG Minutes from April 21, 2015 are attached. > > Holly Weinstock > GHG Secretary > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Charlie Loving
Which Ron? It always helps to sign your full name. CaveTex does not always tell you who sent the email. Jim Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers > wrote: > > Please send contact information as my computer crashed and I am trying to > rebuild. > > Ron > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] off topic: Pi day
We ate freshly-butchered pig. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers > wrote: > > Guess I'm a nerd, we celebrated today by eating Pie :) > >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Amen Stef! >> >> Celebrating Pi day is for nerds! >> >> Back to work >> >> El mar 13, 2015 11:58 PM, "Stefan Creaser via Texascavers" >> escribió: >> >>> Well with this dodgy calendar you have... >>> >>> As far as i can tell it's 14.3.15: >>> >>> -Stefan >>> >>> From: Texascavers [texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Logan >>> McNatt via Texascavers [texascavers@texascavers.com] >>> Sent: 13 March 2015 22:55 >>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] off topic: Pi day >>> >>> Thanks for the alert, Bill. I will try to remember to celebrate the >>> exact moments, but the party won't last long. >>> >>> On 3/13/2015 6:57 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: >>> > Tomorrow will be the pi moments of the century, 3/14/15 at 9:26:53 a.m. >>> > or p.m. Who's having a p.m. party to celebrate? -- Mixon >>> > >>> > (Actually >>> > 9:26:53.58979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628\ >>> > 6208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359\ >>> > 4081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659\ >>> > 3344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339\ >>> > 3607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892\ >>> > 5903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094330572703657595919530921\ >>> > 8611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301\ >>> > 19491... My computer finds 10,000,000 digits of pi in 52 seconds.) >>> > >>> > Dum vivimus, vivamus! >>> > >>> > You may "reply" to the address this message >>> > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >>> > came from, but for long-term use, save: >>> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >>> > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are >>> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended >>> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the >>> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the >>> information in any medium. Thank you. >>> >>> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >>> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590 >>> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >>> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782 >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Ezell's Cave gate finished!
Actually, after a 12 1/2 hour day, we didn't totally finish. We are heading back next Sunday for a few hours to complete the job. Great crew today. Everybody busted ass. But we had some delays from weather and some equipment issues, so we didn't make our deadline. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers > wrote: > > Just called Ron Ralph. They are still at Ezell's Cave, loading up the trucks. > They finished the Ezell's Cave gate! They were supposed to start at 8 a.m > (DST), so they've had a very long hard day, in the rain. > > Details to come later from Ron and/or Jim Kennedy, I'm sure. > > Congratulations are due to everyone involved! > > Logan McNatt > lmcn...@austin.rr.com > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bat Cave, Florida
I have been to Alachua Bat Cave, and was also appalled by the disastrous "management" actions that Sleaze so eloquently described. In fact, I use this site in my lectures as an example of what not to do. But Mixon is a little mistaken, as the cave is now owned by a junior college, not the "government." And it's their lawyers that made it so. But we can't point the finger at non-cavers mismanaging caves when our own nearby NSS-owned Warrens Cave has one of the most atrocious "gates" that I have ever seen. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > Another example of why I always say never let a cave fall into the hands of a > government agency. -- Mixon ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: High School Field Trip to Deep Cave
The first step would be to clear it with the Preserve Manager. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:19 PM, texascavers via Texascavers > wrote: > > Anyone able to help these folks out? > > Thanks, > > Mark A. > > > Sent on a Virgin Mobile Samsung Galaxy S® III > > > Original message > From: Mark Childre > Date:02/10/2015 8:53 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: youthcav...@cavetexas.org > Cc: Geary Schindel , Don Arburn , Ben Thorp , Sonia Roach > Subject: High School Field Trip to Deep Cave > > My name is Mark Childre and some may know me. I’m planning a field trip with > three teenage high school students from Laredo. We plan to visit Deep Cave > over Spring Break. > > > > Our plans are to enter the cave on March 8. Right now, I'm the only caver in > the bunch. Two of the three have been in Robber Baron and did quite well. I > was hoping that someone might volunteer to help. If I get hurt in the cave > for some reason, I would need someone who could get us out --- and, hey, > there's the helectite room -ou!!! > > > > I have three: > > Nathan Thorp 16 yrs old > Jose Cardenas 17 yrs old > Terry Roach 17 yrs old > I'll have all the paperwork giving permission and the medical releases, > similar to what I had when we visited Robber Baron. > > > > I've advertised on but haven't had any > response yet. > > > -- > Mark Childre > Geology Instructor > Department of Natural Sciences and Kinesiology > Laredo Community College > West End Washington Street > Laredo, TX 78040 > > markchil...@gmail.com > mark.chil...@laredo.edu > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] NSS Board of Governors Meeting on March 7 in San Antonio
Don't forget that March 8 is also the Ezells Cave gating project. NSS Directors are also invited to attend and assist. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > > Folks, > > Here is the an outline of activities for the NSS Board of Governors Weekend. > The NSS Board Meeting will be held on March 7th, starting at 9 pm at Edwards > Aquifer Authority at 900 E. Quincy Street, San Antonio, Texas. The Edwards > Aquifer Authority is located on the north side of downtown near the > intersection of I-35 and I-10 and 281. > > Friday Social (March 6) will be at Kurt and Kitty Menking’s House starting > around 6 pm. This is a pot luck hosted by the Grotto. If you’re not a BOG > member, we ask that you please bring a dish. There will be drinks and food > available. The address is 8255 Bindseil Ln, San Antonio. You can reach Kurt > or Kitty at 210-325-5598. Look for blue address sign for 8255 and Aggie > maroon fence and gate. Driveway is a dirt road and the house is 1,000 feet > from Bindseil Lane. (Talk to Kitty about possible special roof excursions). > > Saturday BOG meeting (March 7) starts at 9 am. The Edwards Aquifer Authority > is located near I-35 and 281 on the north side of downtown. The address is > 900 E. Quincy Street. Park in the front of the building (Parking off Quincy). > The front of the building will be open. My cell phone is 210.326.1576. The > grotto will be providing breakfast food, drinks, and lunch for the board. The > expected agenda for the first half of the meeting will be open and the second > half of the meeting will most likely be a closed session as the NSS Board of > Governors is voting on the NSS awards to be presented at the NSS Convention. > > Saturday Social (March 7) – There will be a Saturday night social starting > around 7:30 pm at Geary and Sue Schindel’s house located at 11310 Whisper > Dawn, San Antonio Texas. The phone number for the house is 210.479.2151. This > is a pot luck social with mostly finger food and some other eats. Please also > bring a dish. Some drinks will be provided but if you have a preference, > please bring your own. (Stay off the roof). > > Monday Bexar Grotto Meeting (March 9) (7 pm on March 9th at Chester’s > Hamburgers located at 281 north and Mecca Drive). The program will be NSS > President Wm Shewsbury talking about the NSS. Meeting are open with dinner > and drinks on your own. > > Special Excursions. > > Please let me know if you are interested in any of the following: > > Friday Wine Tour of the Texas Hill Country (March 6) > Arranged by Sue Schindel at 210-313-9976 cell or gschin...@mindspring.com > This will leave around 1:30 pm from San Antonio and will visit one or two > wineries. Depending upon the number of people interested, we may arrange > special transportation. We will be back in time for the party. > > Sunday Wine Tour of the Texas Hill Country (March 8) > Arranged by Sue Schindel at 210-313-9976 cell or gschin...@mindspring.com > This will leave around 10 am and will visit two or three wineries. Depending > upon the number of people interested, we may arrange special transportation. > We will need to know your travel schedule but assume that you will be eating > lunch in the Texas Hill Country and will be back before dinner time. You may > be expected to help with transportation costs and wine and food will be on > your own. > > Sunday Caving (Gregg Williams) (March 8) > We can arrange trips to a couple of caves in the area including Robber Baron > Cave in San Antonio (1 mile long maze cave), Spring Creek Cave (multi-mile > long wet suit cave), or a tour of some of the nearby Commercial Caves such as > Cave without a Name, Cascade Caverns, or Natural Bridge Caverns, or possible > visit to Bracken Bat Cave. Please let us know if you’re interested in a > caving trip and we can arrange something according to your interests and > skills. > > Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. > > Geary Schindel > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Bexar Grotto" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bexargrotto+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Punkin Survey
There is a Punkin Cave survey trip planned for the last weekend in February (returning home March 1). Contact me offlist for details or to sign up. Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver volume and issue numbers :
Amen, sister! Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Feb 1, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Jerry via Texascavers > wrote: > > Posted for Mimi Jasek: > > To All Current and Future Editors and Proofreaders of the Texas Caver: > > We really do have one of the finest caving magazines in the United States, > but I would like to try to make you aware of something that needs to be put > back on the Contents Page to make it complete, and to correct an error that > is being perpetuated. In the past this information has been either there or > on the combined Publication Data/Contents Page. There is plenty of room to > add a text box above the word Contents with this information, or if it > belongs on the Publication Data page, put it there. I would suggest checking > with Logan McNatt as to correct placement. > > The Texas Caver > January - March, 2015 > Volume 61, Issue 1 > > I put this in the format that would be for the first issue of 2015. In many > past issues, also, rather than Vol and Issue being put on the cover, it was > simply the months involved. > > Correction that needs to be fixed: The Volume number is for a whole year! > DO NOT increase this number with the isssue number increasement! Please see > the wonderful spread sheet provided by Jerry Atkinson in his 11/13/14 post > about the Texas Caver Publication List. If you have never worked on a > magazine before, and have never paid attention to this, then this mistake can > be understandable. But if we are still sending out issues to libraries and > other important cave owner entities, this information matters. For all who > may still get their hard copies bound into yearly volumes, this also matters. > In 2014, the TC went from Vol 60 all the way to Vol 63, yet the whole year > is Volume 60. > > To many who see this post, this request will seem frivolous and totally > unimportant. But as someone who worked on the TC for untold years alongside > James Jasek to edit, type, proofread, correct, print, collate, address and > mail for any number of editors, besides working in a bookbinding company, > this information really matters. Design is completely individual as to the > editor of any magazine, but critical publication data is not, and is one of > those things - like proper page numbers for the articles within - that should > be carried forward from issue to issue for proper continuity. > > Sincerely, and with the best of nerdy, proofreading intentions, > > Mimi Jasek > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] AMCS need filing cabinet
I have them in my garage right now if you want to pick them up before the meeting tonight. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > The 5400 cataloged items in the Associations for Mexican Cave Studies paper > archives > > http://www.mexicancaves.org/library/archives.html > > have filled up three four-drawer file cabinets. I'd appreciate leads on one > or two more used file cabinets, preferably free. -- Mixon > > A fast runner gives a slower one a head start. The faster one can never catch > up, because he first has to pass the place the slower one has just left. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Alcalde Article
That version is certainly better. But there is still that nonsense about the "Underground Texas Grotto," which is a fictitious entity. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2015, at 3:33 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers > wrote: > > Here's the editor's most recent email to me: > > Dear Heather, > > I have made the changes you noted, and I have added a prominent note up top > regarding the salamanders. Allow me to please apologize for the mistakes in > this article, and let me thank you for bringing them to our attention. We > have brought these inaccuracies to the reporter's attention, and he will be > getting a stern talking-to about checking his facts carefully. We take this > very seriously, and I regret that we let these errors make it through our > process. > > Would you be so good as to check my changes to make sure we are fully in the > clear? http://alcalde.texasexes.org/2014/12/notes-from-the-underground/ > > Thank you again for reaching out to me. I hope this corrects the mistakes and > avoids any kind of complication for you professionally. If there is any way I > can be helpful to you in the future, please let me know. > > Apologetically yours, > > > > >> On 18 January 2015 at 22:17, Heather Tucek wrote: >> The Editor-in-Chief wrote back to me saying how upset he was to hear about >> thus, and that he will be fixing it first thing in the morning. >> >> >> -Tucek >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 18, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> I wouldn't agree with that at all. They may get the dumbest thing you said >>> so why say dumb things. Dumb things are what we like to see on TV or read >>> about. Dumb is good. I love dumb movies and dumb stories. I thrive on dumb. >>> People forget everything minutes later so it doesn't matter much unless you >>> are running for emperor of aome such ad for gettng it right I always got it >>> right. >>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, AC via Texascavers wrote: Heather, Don't worry about it. The rules for dealing with the media are: 1. They never get it right. 2. If they quote you, they always pick the stupidest thing you say (or didn't say). 3. Most people forget the article as soon as they read it. Allan Sent from my iPhone with fat thumbs > On Jan 18, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers > wrote: > > Wow. So glad I took him caving. I mean, how else could I widely spread > how ignorant I am about caves. Barton Springs salamanders in Whirlpool > Cave? As if! Never did I even mention endangered anything! > > That's the last time I take a reporter caving. Like I need any help > putting black marks on my name. Sheesh! > > > > -Tucek > > > > > >> On Jan 17, 2015, at 5:47 PM, Sam Young via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> This article appeared in the UT Alumni magazine, Alcalde. ... Sam >> >> http://tinyurl.com/qx6mt8b >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie Loving >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Go find out! > -Heather Tuček > UT Grotto, DFW Grotto > TSA Secretary & Membership Chair > NSS 59660 > (512) 773-1348 > trog...@cavechat.org > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Precipicio
Nancy, No one said Bustamante is not available for cavers. And Precipicio was never part of our plan this year. Someday soon, though. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Nancy Weaver via Texascavers > wrote: > > my favorite cave in northern Mexico. a glorious wild beauty, tricky and so > worthwhile to get to. spending the night in the upper level is worth the > effort of hauling bivouac gear. and the lower section is one of the > loveliest, most decorated caves I know of. > > maybe its a blessing that bustamonte is not available for thanksgiving cagers. > > Nancy > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Climbing device museum
The Texas Speleological Survey also has a modest museum of historic Texas and Mexico caving artifacts (artifacts from cavers, NOT from caves). Among our prizes are Michel Sifre's gear from his Beyond Time experiment in Midnight Cave. We always welcome more items from Texas caving history. Jim Kennedy TSS Office Manager cavercr...@gmail.com Mobile email from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, via Texascavers > wrote: > > Pete: > > I decided that the best place for my historic pieces of equipment is with > Garry Storrick. Until the NSS has an adequate museum, I think Gary is the > best repository. I am sure that, ultimately, they will go to the society. > > Dwight > > This is his entry (along with images) of my old climbing cam: (I cannot seem > to make his URL work this evening, although I have been there numerous times) > > Infernal Machine > Ascender built by Dwight Deal > > http://storrick.cnc.net/VerticalDevicesPage/Ascender/LeverCamPages/T1LeverCam235.html > > The Infernal Machine is an important piece in the history of climbing cams > that ultimately led to the Gibbs Ascender. The first significant step was > when Robert Henshaw and David Morehouse developed the first widely-publicized > type-a lever cam ascender in 1965 (the "Iowa Cams"), and simultaneously > introduce a very awkward ropewalker system. Dwight Deal soon modified the > design, but used his "Infernal Machine" in a more traditional Jumar-type > climbing system. The Infernal Machine that Dwight gave me differs from his > published design (Baltimore Grotto News, VIII, 7, pp 168-173, reprinted in > the 1965 Speleo Digest) by having only two choices for the cam pivot, not > three. His initial design had a hole closer to the cam face (which would give > it a very large cam angle), but Dwight found that the ascender would slip > down the main line when using that hole. On the other hand, using the distant > hole (with its very small cam angle) provided so much gripping force that the > Infernal Machine would jam. Dwight's 1965 experiments (on 9 mm. nylon) showed > that the hole locations were quite critical: moving them as little as 1.5 mm. > parallel to the cam face would change the performance noticeably. This would > change the cam angle, and with a smooth cam, the cam angle is critical. > > Incidentally, "SANDY R" stamped on this ascender is Sandy Renstrom, later > Dwight's wife. > > > From: "Lindsley, Pete" > To: "Jerry" > Cc: "Kunath, Carl" , "McNatt, Logan" > , "2 - Dwight on COMCAST" > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:37:26 PM > Subject: Re: Tom Warden's early efforts to create a new ascending device : > > I had completely forgotten about this device. I don't recall ever seeing one, > and I don't recall if this was ever published. But it's a gem when you look > back on this from today's viewpoint. > > I recall making some cams just after Dwight made some based, I think on a PA > design, and each iteration actually worked better than the previous version. > These cams ultimately became the Gibbs design. Is there a caver museum for > this old equipment? I have several old devices that we tried building back in > the 60s. > > - Pete > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Free Firewood
Gill has a large quantity of seasoned split firewood available to any taker. It's generally short lengths, perfect for backyard firepits, chimineas, and saunas. Must pick up at Gill's. Contact him for details. This has been a public service announcement. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue
That's only during Spring Convention. Sorry, Fritz. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers > wrote: > > Jim, > Is there actually going to be an auction at TCR this year such as is held at > the convention? > Fritz Holt > fritz...@gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Not polite to ask him about his dental problems. >> >> Mobile email from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jill >>> >>> How did the cave trip go. I saw your pictures on facebook but we need a >>> short trip repot. >>> >>> Also, how is the plaque coming along. >>> >>> Geary >>> >>> Sent from Surface Pro >>> >>> From: Texas Cavers >>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 5:24 PM >>> To: Texas Cavers >>> >>> The Texas Caver online issue is up. >>> >>> And now there is also an eBook version! However since neither I or the >>> TSA webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to >>> downloading a digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability >>> for feedback. >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> jill orr >>> 210.399.6762 >>> jillorr.businesscatalyst.com >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver issue
Not polite to ask him about his dental problems. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers > wrote: > > Jill > > How did the cave trip go. I saw your pictures on facebook but we need a short > trip repot. > > Also, how is the plaque coming along. > > Geary > > Sent from Surface Pro > > From: Texas Cavers > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 5:24 PM > To: Texas Cavers > > The Texas Caver online issue is up. > > And now there is also an eBook version! However since neither I or the TSA > webmaster own a Nook or tablet, and I haven’t gotten around to downloading a > digital book ap, I’m depending on readers with the capability for feedback. > Thanks! > > > jill orr > 210.399.6762 > jillorr.businesscatalyst.com > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TCR
Charlie, OTR is where it has always been, in West Virginia. However TCR, the Texas Cavers Reunion, is this weekend, Thursday through Sunday. There have been numerous announcements on CaveTex and Facebook to let you know that this year it is at the Guadalupe River RV Park and Campground in Spring Branch on Highway 281. And the food is excellent. Jim "Crash" Kennedy Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Finally figured out where it is. My Spring Branch is near Houston. What > exactly is the schedule? Is it a Friday affair or a Saturday affair? I have > given up camping and don't have a camper or any of that falderal. I have > missed the past four or five OTRs and wanted to attend but may miss out > again. Maybe I will come by for a visit on Friday. > > Charlie Loving ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
Sheryl, It's not a simple problem with an easy solution. There has been a whole lot of research regarding bats and wind turbines. An excellent source of information is www.batsandwind.org Jim Kennedy, the bat guy cavercr...@gmail.com Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers > wrote: > > I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that > consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are > and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts > discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would > like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the > turbines. > > Sheryl Rieck ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bats, Trees and Turbines
Yes Stef. Really. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:21 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > "Hundreds and thousands"? Really? > > -Stefan ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Ropes for TCR
G'afternoon, cavers! Highline ropes will once again be at TCR, as promised. I'm currently taking orders for 11mm, 10mm, and 9mm ropes up to 1200 feet in length. Payment will be due upon pickup at TCR. 10 and 11 are 50 cents per foot and 9 is 40 cents. Contact me offlist in the next week or so in order for me to ensure your rope will arrive on time. Thanks ! Jim Kennedy cavercr...@gmail.com 512-663-2287 Mobile email from my iPhone ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Mertens Ranch dig trip
Saturday is fine! I'll and details within a day or so. Mobile email from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2014, at 10:02 AM, "Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers" > wrote: > > Jim, > > I’d like to come out on Saturday, but can’t make it Sunday. > > Kurt > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Crash Kennedy via Texascavers > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:55 PM > To: CaveTex > Subject: [Texascavers] Mertens Ranch dig trip > > If anyone is not going on the Deep Cave survey trip this coming weekend and > would like to join us on a very promising dig adjacent to Guadalupe River > State Park (and projected to intersect a very long and famous water cave), > contact me offlist. We still have a couple of open spots. Details will be > sent upon confirmation of participants. Breakthrough is imminent! > > Crash > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TCR is almost here!!!
Super HEROES and super villains! Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > The theme this year is"Super Villains" so keep up with the event page > for costume ideas. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Border militia confronts bat researchers
Yes. - Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Anybody know anyone involved in this? >> Border militia confronts bat researchers >> >> Posted: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:26 am >> By Jonathan Clark >> Nogales International >> >> A group of heavily armed militiamen confronted a team of scientists who had >> been studying bats in a cave near Sonoita last week, apparently mistaking >> them for illegal border-crossers or drug-smugglers. >> >> No one was hurt during the late-night encounter in the Gardner Canyon area, >> but the incident highlights the potential for trouble when citizens take up >> arms in hopes of defending the U.S.-Mexico border. >> >> U.S. Customs and Border Protection “does not endorse or support any private >> group or organization to take border security matters into their own hands >> as it could have disastrous personal and public safety consequences” the >> agency said in a statement. >> >> The confrontation near Sonoita began at approximately 11 p.m. on Aug. 23, >> according to a report given by one of the scientists to a Santa Cruz County >> Sheriff’s deputy. The team of three researchers had been counting bats in >> Onyx Cave, and as they began walking back to their campsite near Gardner >> Canyon Road, they were flashed with a spotlight by a group of men. >> >> The men reportedly began shouting at the scientists in Spanish, and >> identified themselves as a militia group protecting the U.S.-Mexico border. >> The scientists identified themselves and continued to walk to their campsite >> “while seeking cover,” according to the deputy’s report. >> >> When they arrived at their campsite, they were again approached by the >> militiamen, who pulled up on an ATV while carrying a shotgun and wearing >> camouflage clothing. This time the militiamen were apologetic, but the >> reporting scientist told the deputy he still cursed them out and let them >> know how they had made him and his colleagues feel. >> >> The researchers said they weren’t directly threatened by the militiamen and >> did not see any weapons pointed at them. Still, the reporting person >> described the encounter as “aggressive” and said he was concerned for the >> safety of other people who were camping in the area. He said he saw three >> militia members, but suspected there were more. >> >> The report was made the afternoon after the encounter, and the deputy took >> no additional action on the matter. “Border Patrol had already dealt with >> the situation,” said Sheriff’s Lt. Raoul Rodriguez. >> >> Border Patrol agents from the Sonoita Station had arrived at the scientists’ >> campsite during the incident after having been contacted by the militia >> group. An agent contacted later by the investigating deputy reportedly >> described the militiamen as “heavily armed,” even more so than the agent. >> >> Neither the Border Patrol nor Sheriff’s Office could provide details about >> the militiamen, other than that they claimed to be from Colorado. >> >> In a brief statement from the Border Patrol’s Tucson Sector, the agency said >> it received a phone call from a member of a militia group reporting >> suspicious activity near Sonoita at about 10 p.m. on Aug. 23. >> >> “Sonoita station agents responded and encountered a small group of >> biologists studying bats,” it said. >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [anonimity]
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Re: [Texascavers] bat bridges
The whole idea of making highways compatible with wildlife is pretty new. The Europeans and Canadians are way ahead of in those areas. I have seen a couple of presentations indicating really high success rates when done right. Of course, there is a monetary cost to protecting wildlife. Doing good doesn't come cheaply. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Josh Rubinstein wrote: > > Nice articles Crash. > > From the BBC post it is hard to visualize what these "bridges" will look > like. Any ideas? > > Has this or something similar been tried before? How effective is it? > > Josh ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] GPS recommendation?
A sexton is an officer of a church, congregation, or synagogue charged with the maintenance of its buildings and/or the surrounding graveyard. In smaller places of worship, this office is often combined with that of verger. In larger buildings, such as cathedrals, a team of sextons may be employed. A sextant is an instrument used to measure the angle between any two visible objects. Its primary use is to determine the angle between a celestial object and the horizon which is known as the object's altitude. [Wikipedia] Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Get a compas and a sexton so you won't have to be beholding to magic in the > sky. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
