Re: [Texascavers] TPWD sign

2017-07-26 Thread Mary Thiesse via Texascavers 
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You're right David except I have to say I'm not sure who's hiding.
Mary TZ


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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 12:04 PM, David via Texascavers 
 wrote:

I would say that is Wayne Bockleman and Mary Theisse and Nancy Weaver.   The 
helmet in the back looks like Don Broussard But that is just a crazy guess.
On Jul 26, 2017 12:13 PM, "Diana Tomchick via Texascavers" 
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Mark, I recognize you in the photo, but I’m not sure who the other people are, 
so please help us out.
Diana
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On Jul 26, 2017, at 10:46 AM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

Photo attached. As I remember the story, it wasn't "digging" that the Park was 
worried about; it was the fact that we were there at all. We had published a 
trip report and map saying we had crossed under the Park boundary in the QA 
survey, and somehow that got to Park management. Someone got a letter or phone 
call to the effect that we should not be caving under the Park without 
permission. We replied that we were very sorry, and that they would never hear 
of that happening again. Note we didn't say we wouldn't do it, only that they 
wouldn't hear about it. There were several trips beyond that spot, and as far 
as I know, it is still a lead.


Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net

On Sat, 22 Jul, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
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Cc: Diana.Tomchick@ UTSouthwestern.edu​The last time I visited that passage 
(early this year), we weren't looking for the sign, but then it occurred to us 
while eating a post-caving trip dinner that we hadn't seen the sign on our 
trip, so maybe it's no longer there. Somewhere I have a photo of the sign, but 
I don't know exactly where. It would be fun for someone to post a photo of it.

Diana

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Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
Diana.Tomchick@UTSouthwestern. edu
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)From: Texascavers  on 
behalf of Nancy Weaver via Texascavers 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:42 AM
To: TexasCavers
Cc: Nancy Weaver
Subject: [Texascavers] TPWD sign as someone intimately aware of the placing of 
that sign, I know exactly why it was done.  very much in the spirit of thumbing 
one’s nose at fences and ownership..Nancy
If I recall there is (was) a TPWD boundary sign that was placed by cavers in 
one of the side passages in Honey Creek Cave were it goes under the park 
boundary fence. Someone at TPWD had said something to the effect that cavers 
needed to stop "digging" they way they were in that passage under the park as 
that method of "digging" was not approved by TWPD (and that is what propmpted 
the placement of said signage).
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Re: [Texascavers] Truck Decoration-1968 Style

2016-11-14 Thread Mary Thiesse via Texascavers 
Hmmm looks like more than just the truck got painted.
MTZ

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> On Nov 13, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
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> Some stories never die and are worthy of coming around again.
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> Here are a few pictures documenting the painting of T. R. Evans’ truck one 
> evening at the 1968 Springfield NSS convention.
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> ===Carl Kunath
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Re: [Texascavers] It is done- a Honey Creek update.

2016-03-08 Thread Mary Thiesse via Texascavers 
Fantastic job everyone!

Mary TZ

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> On Mar 8, 2016, at 10:21 AM, "A. Wertheim via Texascavers" 
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>  Original message 
> From: "A. Wertheim"  
> Date: 03/07/2016 10:40 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Victoria Sommers  
> Subject: It is done- a Honey Creek update. 
> 
> Well friends, the Honey Creek road repair project is finished.  The road to 
> the shaft entrance has never been better and will probably never be as good 
> again.  Team “Go Big Or Go Home” brought their best game in a road-working 
> tour-de-force and not only repaired Joyce’s damaged road but made it useable 
> for many years to come.  All the stops were pulled out to make this project a 
> success. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Here’s the rundown:
> 
>  
> 
> Volunteers:
> 
> Tim Ramon-Project Leader
> 
> 8!, count-em, 8! of Tim’s employees volunteered to help on a Saturday.
> 
> Kim Freund-Food and 
> drinks for a lot of hungry, dusty men
> 
> Kurt Menking-Equipment 
> operator, planning, organization, landowner relations
> 
> Arron Wertheim-  That’s me.  I got to 
> run some equipment and swing a chainsaw.
> 
> Victoria Sommers-Photo documentation, 
> lunch
> 
> Robert Bissett-  Equipment 
> operator, fundraising, organization
> 
> Gregg “Breaks Thumbs” Williams  Fundraising
> 
>  
> 
> Equipment:
> 
> (Courtesy of Ramon & Sons Demolition, Inc.)
> 
> Case Backhoe
> 
> Case Compact Track Loader
> 
> Takeuchi Compact Track Loader
> 
> 68000lb Kenilworth roll-off truck with a 20 YARD dump box
> 
> 500 gallon Water Buffalo
> 
> Trucks, Trailers
> 
> Replacement drain pipes
> 
> Replacement gate posts donated for future installation
> 
>  
> 
> (Courtesy of  BCI & Bracken Bat Cave)
> 
> 8000lb Tandem Dump Trailer
> 
>  
> 
> Funding:
> 
> Bexar Grotto
> 
> TCMA
> 
> TSA
> 
> Mr. Jerry Atkinson
> 
> Mr. Joe Ranzou
> 
> Mr. Greg Passmore
> 
> Greater Houston Grotto
> 
> TCR
> 
>  
> 
> Project Timeline:
> 
> Saturday and Sunday, March 5 & 6 2016 with good weather. 
> 
>  
> 
> Project Plan and Action:
> 
>  
> 
> The original plan was to rent a couple skidsteers and borrow the dump trailer 
> from Bracken to patch the road.  When Tim volunteered to help out and review 
> the project, it quickly became apparent that almost a mile of damaged road 
> would take a lot more time and effort than a couple Bobcats would be able to 
> handle.  The heavy fall rains had made the road damage more pronounced.  
> Beers would be spilled trying to drive it.  Unacceptable.  Several different 
> repair options were discussed and a final few were selected based on the 
> value of this work and on reasonable fundraising expectations.  It’s a ranch 
> road, not paved access; and while it was damaged during a rainy caving trip, 
> it also had not been properly maintained since it was originally built.  
> Ultimately a backhoe, skidsteer, and bumper-pull dump trailer were decided on 
> with expected costs of up to $1400/1500. 
> 
>  
> 
> When Kurt and I showed up Saturday morning there was A LOT more equipment 
> than expected, men in orange vests, traffic cones, a low-boy trailer, and 
> tons of things going on.  Tim had taken a second look at the project scope 
> and confirmed his initial thoughts that to get the work done in one weekend 
> we needed to go big or go home.  He asked one of his crew to help out on a 
> Saturday and that quickly grew to 8 hard-working men in steel-toe workboots, 
> hardhats, and safety vests doing what they do best. 
> 
>  
> 
> Tim’s guys worked till 5:00 on Saturday and moved enough material to re-pack 
> the whole road.  A 20-yard dump truck can load a ridiculous amount of 
> material.  The box is 23ftx8ftx4.5ft.  Caliche weighs 2430.57 lbs/cubic yard. 
> That is 48611 pounds of material per load  (as an engineer I just had to 
> know.)  A Bobcat has a ½ yard bucket.  The dump trailer can load 4 yards.  
> Anyways, watching the driver gently back that loaded roll-on behemoth between 
> oak trees without so much as a nick to the bark or a snapped twig was 
> amazing.  Joyce had been adamant about protecting her oak trees.  Well, 
> without the 20-yard dump truck and experienced equipment operators this would 
> probably have been a 2 or 3 weekend project with additional rental and 
> transport costs.
> 
>  
> 
> Kurt and Rob ran the Bracken dump trailer loaded to the max until its 
> hydraulics whined in tired complaint.  When the dumper decided to take a dump 
> from being overloaded, we grabbed shovels and unloaded it by hand.  Short 
> loads only after that!  When it had to be lifted by the track loader to dump 
> we knew it was

Re: [Texascavers] Press release re: Caverns of Sonora

2015-10-02 Thread Mary Thiesse via Texascavers 
Thank you Jacqui.

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 10:29 AM, "J. LaRue Thomas via Texascavers" 
>  wrote:
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> The following Press Release was published in the Thursday, September 24th  
> Devil's River News. I haven't seen it anywhere else but it's a pretty big 
> deal. Jacqui 
> 
> Press Release
> 
> 112th DistrictAttorney’s Office
> 
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> On September 14, 2015, aCriminal Bench Trial was held before the Honorable 
> Judge Pedro Gomez, Jr.concerning the two count Indictment against Adam 
> William Garcia-Gallegos fordamaging the Sonora Caverns on May 24, 2014. 
> Garcia-Gallegos was indicted witha two (2) count Indictment on September 9, 
> 2014 by the Sutton County GrandJury. One count alleged that Garcia-Gallegos 
> knowingly removed natural itemsfrom a cave and the other count alleged that 
> he knowingly destroyed, defaced,marred or harmed the surfaces of a cave. 
> Garcia-Gallegos pleaded “guilty” toknowingly removing and “not guilty” to 
> knowingly destroying, defacing, marring,or harming items of a cave.
> 
>  
> 
> Evidence presented duringthe bench trial included a 17 year old eyewitness 
> who observed Garcia-Gallegosbreak a stalagtite [sic] during theirtour. Louise 
> Ingham testified that she asked Garcia-Gallegos to empty hispockets and he 
> pulled five items from his pocket. Testimony from Ingham andBill Sawyer 
> confirmed that four of the items were debris that could have beenfound 
> alongside the trail, but the fifth item was freshly broken from withinthe 
> cave. Sawyer and the eyewitness were able to find the location from whichthe 
> stalagtite [sic] had been broken.Testimony was also presented by Sawyer 
> concerning the process and costs whichwill be necessary for repairs to 
> restore the stalagtite [sic].  
> 
>  
> 
> After hearing theevidence, Judge Gomez found Garcia-Gallegos guilty of both 
> counts and sentencedhim to seven hundred and thirty (730) days in the State 
> Jail Division of theTexas Department of Criminal Justice, suspended for five 
> (5) years on community supervision. Seven hundred and thirty(730) days is the 
> maximum sentence for a state jail felony and five (5) yearsis the maximum for 
> a probated sentence on a state jail felony. Judge Gomez alsoordered 
> Garcia-Gallegos to pay $9,480.00 restitution for the repairs. Therestitution 
> must be paid within thirty-six (36) months to Gerry MayfieldIngham, who is 
> one of the owners of the Sonora Caverns. The Sonora Caverns hasbeen owned by 
> the Mayfield Faamily for five (5) generations.
> 
>  
> 
> During her testimony,Louise Ingham stated, “Our Family opened the Caverns to 
> the public foreducational purposes and to allow people to enjoy the natural 
> beauty of thecaverns.”
> 
>  
> 
> Laurie English, 112thDistrict Attorney, stated, “The Sonora Caverns represent 
> a precious naturalresource that must be protected and preserved for future 
> generations. Theremoval of even the smallest items from the Caverns damages 
> the integrity andbeauty of this natural wonder.”
> 
>  
> 
> The law concerning damageto caves within Texas was modified in 2007 and the 
> penalty was increased from amisdemeanor to a felony after the Sonora Caverns 
> sustained damage to the “Butterfly”which was the premier feature of the 
> Caverns. The Ingham Family and the SuttonCounty Attorney, Dib Waldrip, were 
> instrumental in getting the penalty raisedto a state jail felony. This is the 
> first recorded prosecution in the State ofTexas under this statute.
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