[Texascavers] Kenny McGee

2022-06-03 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Anyone heard anything about Kenny? How he is doing?

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Re: [Texascavers] Groundhog Day

2022-02-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck
This cracked me up!

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> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:35 PM, Lee H. Skinner  wrote:
> 
> Every February 2 -- the halfway point between the winter solstice and
> spring equinox -- a bleary-eyed groundhog is hoisted from its burrow
> into the daylight in towns across the United States and Canada. If its
> human handler proclaims that the rodent sees its shadow (as Punxsutawney
> Phil did this year), then six more weeks of winter await; if it doesn't,
> spring will come early -- or so the tradition goes.
> 
> But we don't need this groundhog's communicated advice!  At 7:25 am on
> February 2 in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania, determine whether or not it is
> cloudy or clear. If the sun is shining, then we'll have an early Spring.
> If clouds obscure the sun, we'll have six more weeks of Winter.
> 
> We have therefore eliminated one link in the chain of events that
> previously determined this prediction. We have also eliminated the false
> positive in case Phil is too sleepy to notice his shadow (he may be
> looking in the wrong direction), or even a false negative if someone is
> trying to get a better observation by shining a bright light upon the
> creature on a dark cloudy morning where he might see his shadow from the
> artificial light source.
> 
> Lee Skinner, not a meteorologist nor an animal behaviorist
> 
> 
> (Not off topic, as Phil's burrow might be considered to be a cave by small 
> cavers)
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Calendar 2022

2021-10-11 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I consider it to be “abroad”. 

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> On Oct 11, 2021, at 4:02 PM, John Brooks  
> wrote:
> 
> Is Oklahoma considered “abroad” ? 
> 
> Asking for a friend.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Bennett Lee  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Texas Cavers Calendar 2022 is here and available online! For those of you 
>> who can't make it TCR because you're too busy caving outside of the great 
>> state of Texas, you can buy your copy online at
>> https://bennettlee.com/product/texas-cavers-calendar-2022/
>> Amazing set of photographs of Texas cavers shot in Texas caves by Texas 
>> photographers. And there are still just a few 2018 calendars online, too, in 
>> case you haven't snagged one of those yet.
>>  
>> All proceeds benefit the TCMA. Makes great Christmas and White Elephant 
>> gifts, so buy several and help support cave conservation!
>>  
>> --Bennett
>>  
>> P.S.—Rumor is the theme for the next calendar will be “Texas cavers abroad,” 
>> featuring Texas cavers in non-Texas caves. Trip to Cheve? Snap a couple of 
>> NSFW photos. Huautla? Nudies. TAG? Try not to get rope burn. Muzquiz…you 
>> guys are already doing it, just submit some photos.
>>  
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Re: [Texascavers] test

2021-04-25 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Did I pass?

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 11:32 PM, Mark  wrote:
> 
> 
> test
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Re: [Texascavers] 11 am bill update

2019-03-14 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Excellent news!

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> On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> They pulled the breathing tube, he’s breathing on his own.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] 8 am tuesday bill russell update

2019-03-12 Thread Sheryl Rieck
My thoughts are with you. 

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> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> He’s still with us.  A little more conscious;  still not off vent because the 
> dialysis last night bothered his heart a bit -  they’re not able to taper the 
> meds off yet.  He’s fighting to stay; still not clear where we’re going.   
> 
> katie
> 
> Katherine Arens
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Re: [Texascavers] Greg Mosier

2019-02-05 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thank you!!

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> On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:26 PM, JG Mosier  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sheryl, I almost missed this email. I can count what is in the trailer 
> and let you know.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 12:09 PM Sheryl Rieck  wrote:
>> Greg,
>> 
>> I need to speak to you about T-shirt’s. I need an inventory of why we have 
>> for TCMA shirts. Can you email me at sheryl.ri...@gmail.com, please?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sheryl Rieck
>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>> 
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[Texascavers] Greg Mosier

2019-02-03 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Greg,

I need to speak to you about T-shirt’s. I need an inventory of why we have for 
TCMA shirts. Can you email me at sheryl.ri...@gmail.com, please?

Thanks,



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[Texascavers] Tom Rogers email addy

2018-10-21 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Tom, please email me at sheryl.ri...@gmail.com. 

Thanks,

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Re: [Texascavers] UTG attains 501(c)(3) status !

2018-09-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Justin et al,

Congratulations. That is quite a process to get through!

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> On Sep 29, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> HOORAY FOR JUSTIN AND MIMI!!!
> THank you for helping UTG join the new world order . . . 
> katie
>> On Sep 29, 2018, at 3:36 PM, Justin Shaw  wrote:
>> 
>> Good afternoon,
>> 
>> It is my pleasure to announce that the IRS has granted 501(c)(3) tax exempt 
>> status to the Underground Texas Grotto. 
>> 
>> This is our key to securing a new permanent meeting location, which our 
>> Location Committee Chair, Mimi Alexander, has been hard at work on since our 
>> search began. Several wonderful potential accommodations have been located 
>> which require tax-exempt status.
>> 
>> Once we’re in our new digs, I’ll give a talk about the process, and the 
>> minor changes required to meet NSS and IRS requirements. 
>> 
>> Justin Shaw
>> Underground Texas Grotto, Incorporation Committee Chair 
>> 
>> 
>> 512-593-2283
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Re: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question

2018-09-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thank you. 

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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> EMail  they answer email
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Sheryl Rieck  wrote:
>> 
>> Katherine, I had taken your advice and called right away but I just had no 
>> luck. It’s alright. I’ll survive. And sorry for being snarky. 
>> 
>> Sheryl Rieck
>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
>> find you get what you need" Rolling Stones
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:53 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
>> 
>>> there are a grand total of four cabins.  This is not a huge issue
>>>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Sheryl Rieck  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. I have given up. I finally just rented an RV. I thought the 
>>>> organizers would assist but apparently not. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sheryl Rieck
>>>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just 
>>>> might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Joe Ranzau  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In years past they did not offer me a discount but I believe they waived 
>>>>> the deposit.  The cabin prices for the last two years have been too rich 
>>>>> for my blood...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joe
>>>>> 210.289.6839
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:06 AM Denise P  wrote:
>>>>>> Please contact the PC folks and let them know it is for the TCR event. 
>>>>>> I'm thinking no discount but it doesn't hurt to ask.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Denise 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Original message 
>>>>>> From: Sheryl Rieck 
>>>>>> Date: 8/29/18 1:00 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>>>> To: TexasCavers 
>>>>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do we get a discount on cabins for this event? Or is it the regular 
>>>>>> rates? Or do I need to talk to the PC folks?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sheryl Rieck
>>>>>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> P.S. If you are coming to TCR, please send pics so I can pick who throws 
>>>>>> me out. Males preferred.
>>>>>> 
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>>> University of Texas at Austin
>>> Office:  Burdine 320
>>> Austin, TX  78712-1802
>>>   -. .-
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>>> 

Re: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question

2018-09-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Katherine, I had taken your advice and called right away but I just had no 
luck. It’s alright. I’ll survive. And sorry for being snarky. 

Sheryl Rieck
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"You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need" Rolling Stones

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:53 AM, Katherine Arens  wrote:
> 
> there are a grand total of four cabins.  This is not a huge issue
>> On Sep 16, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Sheryl Rieck  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I have given up. I finally just rented an RV. I thought the 
>> organizers would assist but apparently not. 
>> 
>> Sheryl Rieck
>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
>> find you get what you need" Rolling Stones
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Joe Ranzau  wrote:
>> 
>>> In years past they did not offer me a discount but I believe they waived 
>>> the deposit.  The cabin prices for the last two years have been too rich 
>>> for my blood...
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 210.289.6839
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:06 AM Denise P  wrote:
>>>> Please contact the PC folks and let them know it is for the TCR event. I'm 
>>>> thinking no discount but it doesn't hurt to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Denise 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Sheryl Rieck 
>>>> Date: 8/29/18 1:00 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>>> To: TexasCavers 
>>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question
>>>> 
>>>> Do we get a discount on cabins for this event? Or is it the regular rates? 
>>>> Or do I need to talk to the PC folks?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sheryl Rieck
>>>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. If you are coming to TCR, please send pics so I can pick who throws 
>>>> me out. Males preferred.
>>>> 
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> 
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> ar...@austin.utexas.edu
>   Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies
> FAX (512) 471-4025
> 2505 University Ave, C3300 
> Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
> University of Texas at Austin
> Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-1802
>   -. .-
>  _..-'()`-.._
>  ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
>   ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
> ./'..|'.|| |\`` '`" '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
>   ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
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> '.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
> '.||| | |/'   ``\||`` ''||/''   `\| | |||.`
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Re: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question

2018-09-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thanks. I have given up. I finally just rented an RV. I thought the organizers 
would assist but apparently not. 

Sheryl Rieck
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"You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need" Rolling Stones

> On Sep 14, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Joe Ranzau  wrote:
> 
> In years past they did not offer me a discount but I believe they waived the 
> deposit.  The cabin prices for the last two years have been too rich for my 
> blood...
> 
> Joe
> 210.289.6839
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:06 AM Denise P  wrote:
>> Please contact the PC folks and let them know it is for the TCR event. I'm 
>> thinking no discount but it doesn't hurt to ask.
>> 
>> Denise 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Sheryl Rieck 
>> Date: 8/29/18 1:00 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: TexasCavers 
>> Subject: [Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question
>> 
>> Do we get a discount on cabins for this event? Or is it the regular rates? 
>> Or do I need to talk to the PC folks?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sheryl Rieck
>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>> 
>> P.S. If you are coming to TCR, please send pics so I can pick who throws me 
>> out. Males preferred.
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Re: [Texascavers] Bill's tale

2018-09-01 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Holy cow I’m glad you are alright!!

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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration volunteers!

2018-08-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Water, electricity, wear and tear. And you get to see me. Surely that is
worth paying for.


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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:03 AM Katherine Arens 
wrote:

> Charlie, Parking, space, beer, and ability to swim or float.
> k
>
> On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:59 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:
>
> If you don't camp and you don't eat and are there to see old friends what
> exactly are you paying for? I pay of the Texas Caver and am still waiting
> for a copy. But I don't mind. And I have been designated a moocher and jerk.
>
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[Texascavers] Paradise Canyon Cabins question

2018-08-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Do we get a discount on cabins for this event? Or is it the regular rates?
Or do I need to talk to the PC folks?

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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration history

2018-08-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I agree with Gill agreeing with Alan and Linda. Additionally, I have quite 
often given extra money at registration when I could to help offset for some 
who can’t afford it. 

I’m looking forward to TCR. I missed it last year because I was one of the 
exceptionally broke and couldn’t make it. It messes up my whole year when I 
miss because it’s the only time I can truly relax and be among people I 
thoroughly enjoy. 

If I don’t wear my wrist band, can I pick who throws me out? 

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> On Aug 29, 2018, at 9:03 AM, grub...@centurytel.net wrote:
> 
> During the time I ran TCR and when I helped Gil while he was running it I do 
> not remember a single instance of  anyone being "thrown out" of the TCR, 
> ever.  There were a number of cooks and cooks helpers who got comped in 
> because they were workers on the event.  They spent their time doing those 
> things that make TCR run and not "hanging out"  There were other prominent 
> individuals who contributed in vast and underappreciated ways.  We showed our 
> gratitude to them in other ways. TCR always broke even so it was never about 
> money.  If we had folks who for what ever reason didnt "register"  it wasnt 
> really a big issue.  We had plenty to do without worrying about that.  We 
> tried to have as few rules as possible.
> 
> William Russell once remarked that one of the beautiful things about TCR was 
> that it is the closest thing to a real working anarchy you can have.  It more 
> or less runs itself.  People know what needs to be done and do it.  Cavers 
> are good about seeing something that needs doing and they do it with very 
> little compunction.  Just  a little guidance is all.  Gil was better at that 
> than I was.  His advice was "keep you hand lightly on the wheel"  let it run 
> itself.  This generally works fairly well.   We tried very hard to keep the 
> event light hearted and fun.  I have nothing but great compliments for the 
> folks who have organized the event for the last few years because they have 
> continued to come up with new things like the parade that embellish that 
> tradition.
> 
> I dont think that I can ever fully explain what TCR means to me.  I get to 
> see friends I have known more than 45 years.  Some I see that once or twice a 
> year.  some I havent seen in decades.I get to see caver kids I watched 
> grow up raising their own kids.  Couple years ago one of those "kids" said "I 
> bet you remember me when I was that little"  I did.  Caving is a team based 
> adventure sport that thrives on camaraderie.  TCR is a celebration of those 
> friendships and the richness of the many years of memories. 
> 
> The cavers I grew up with were also very "non-status" oriented.  That is hard 
> to explain and I dont see it as strong these days but nobody tried to set up 
> rules and make others follow them.  Of course there was basic safety and 
> competence.  You had to get voted in by the grotto member to be a "regular" 
> member.  but then you could, check out ropes, lead trips ect
> 
> Last year at TCR there was someone who was stalking around the cam being a 
> "wristband nazi" who appointed them to that I dont know.  They werent having 
> a good time, unless hassling folks was their fun. I also know that 
> Registration wasnt open a large part of the time.  I know folks who had a 
> difficult time finding somebody to give their money to.  If people are 
> willing to work at registration I say let them decide if they want to be 
> there late Friday night /Sat morning, ect.  If this is a issue then the 
> organizers ( god rest their souls) should recruit a larger group to do this.  
> It is one of the most onerous tasks of the event and anyone willing to spend 
> their time on it deserves some slack.
> 
> TCR doesnt really run itself,  there are hundreds of tasks that have to be 
> done.  A lot of it happens before the event,  the hidden part of the iceberg. 
>  Everyone has ways the help out, some visible, some hidden.  We have created 
> a unique cavers event  word of which has spread all over the country.  Let us 
> continue to strive to make it the most enjoyable fall weekend you can ever 
> have
> Andy G Grubbs i
> 
> 
> From: "Nancy Weaver" 
> To: "texascavers" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:03:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Registration volunteers!
> 
> boy how times change.  I loved the really old days of lets throw a party, 
> pitch in where you can with money or help.  thanks to the thoughtful previous 
> registrars wh

Re: [Texascavers] Phuket Hospital

2018-07-08 Thread Sheryl Rieck
David,

I have to agree with Joe. I’ve always defended you on here but your email has 
reached spam level quantities. I appreciate your efforts to keep everyone 
informed but I don’t think we need every news article and video of this event 
posted here. 

Thanks,

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> On Jul 8, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Joe Ranzau  wrote:
> 
> David -
> 
> Respectfully, as someone that encourages your participation on this 
> list-serve, it's time to tap the breaks on the volume of your postings.  By 
> my rough count, you're at 49 unique subject lines (excluding replies) in the 
> past 14 days.  There's certainly no limit, we know Charles doesn't want to be 
> in the moderator business, I'm just asking as a virtual friend.  Even caver's 
> have to escort our drunk friends to their tents from the campfire on 
> occasion...
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Joe
> 210.289.6839
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 2:56 AM David  wrote:
>> I am not making this up.
>> 
>> The boys will be taken to Phuket Hospital.
>> 
>> I know that is immature.Just being silly.
>> 
>> I did learn from all my research that in that part of
>> the world young women compete in rollerblading in
>> various styles of free-dancing - one called Freestyle
>> Slalom and another called the PowerSlide.
>> 
>> I guess I need to get out more.
>> 
>> All I really learned in the past 2 weeks, was that Thai
>> girls do not sing pretty when covered in wet frogs and big
>> snakes
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM_xlmwqaOM
>> 
>> D.L.
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Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Fundraiser

2018-06-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
That’s fantastic! Good job. 

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> On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Denise P  wrote:
> 
> The Save the Caves TCMA Fundraiser this weekend was a blast and a rousing 
> success! Right at $3000 was raised for cave management and preservation. Much 
> thanks to Lindsey Adamoski for spearheading the event and her family for 
> donating the use of the venue Buffalo Billiards and getting us great deals on 
> beer and food!  And the many volunteers who made it happen including the 
> fabulous Gary Frankin Band! They rocked the house! And as usual Susan Souby 
> and Whole Earth for donating gift certificates and door prizes.
> 
> Congrats to the winners of the raffle: Greg Mossier won the guided tour of 
> Amazing Maze Caves and David Ochel won the TCMA lifetime membership.
> 
> And thanks for all you folks who participated and support TCMA in so many 
> ways!
> 
> Cheers,
> Denise Prendergast
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Re: [Texascavers] TexasCavers listserve

2018-05-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thanks, Charles. You do a great job with the list and it is a lot of work. I 
like your take on things. I hope you save this email for our next round of hate 
and discontent. 

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> On May 2, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
> 
> This list has always been self moderated, at least in the 13 years I've run 
> it, and probably before then, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
> 
> If someone gets out of line, send them a PRIVATE message.  If a few people 
> did that every time someone did get out of line, it would likely solve the 
> problem.
> 
> We are up to 388 members on the list, there is no way in hell that everyone 
> is going to get along, and while it would be nice that everyone acted like an 
> adult, there is little chance that is going to happen as well.
> 
> Cavers are a stubborn bunch for the most part, it takes that stubbornish 
> attitude to keep digging in a cave that you feel a slight bit of air in, or 
> hope that it's about to expand and go another 10 feet or 100 miles.
> 
> Here is a little fact, 1 out of 10 people who say that they are going to 
> quit, actually do.  Most just start lurking or stop reading it, but do not 
> actually quit the mailing list.  I know, because I get an email every time 
> someone quits, and to join, I have to approve (to prevent spam bots).
> 
> We get about 10 - 20 requests a day to join the list from spam bots, most of 
> them are obvious and I delete.  Occasionally someone has an email address 
> that is iffy and I have to email them to see if a human responds.
> 
> We also get a couple of hundred emails a day of spammers just trying to send 
> junk mail to the list, these are blocked since they are not members, and 
> since I get notifications on this, I have to filter through and delete.  
> There is about .1% one of these emails are legit, a caver forgets and sends 
> an email to the list serve from another of their email addresses.  Sometimes 
> I catch these and allow it to go through, most of the time I don't, but I do 
> try.
> 
> Please keep in mind, everyone has an opinion, no one opinion is right, and 
> while you don't agree with your fellow caver about their opinion, it's their 
> right to say it.  You do NOT have to listen to it, and in this context, 
> that's what the delete is for.  It's also your right to quit the list, or 
> just setup a rule in your email to delete an email if it comes from a 
> particular person.
> 
> In my mind, moderation is akin to censorship, and yes, that's a very loose 
> interpretation, but it's not something I'm willing to do, as long as everyone 
> is civil.  We have 4 simple rules : http://texascavers.com/rules.html  Civil 
> discourse is the key here.  Unless it gets unruly, I'm not going to do 
> anything but eat my popcorn and watch.  I've only had to remove 1 person in 
> 13 years.
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 10:10 AM Carl Kunath <carl.kun...@suddenlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> I'll echo these recent comments about Don Arburn.  His service to the Texas 
>> caving community has been exceptional.  Thanks Don!
>> 
>> On another subject:
>> The deterioration of the TexasCavers listserve is quite amazing.  The fact 
>> that it is not moderated has been seen by a small number of users as an 
>> opportunity to subvert it to a personal blog by a few who have lost sight of 
>> the stated purpose (or choose to ignore) and feel that "anything goes."  It 
>> is ironic that this condition drives away the very people it was meant to 
>> serve.  Cavers are a tolerant group but individuals do have their patience 
>> limits.  With increasing frequency we see "goodbye, I've had enough" 
>> postings from longtime supporters of Texas caving.
>> 
>> A previous attempt to create an "off topic" group was a failure because the 
>> abusers of the main list failed to acquire a large enough readership to 
>> satisfy their needs for attention.  Subtle (and not so subtle) requests to 
>> "take it off-line and/or use personal messages"  have been ignored.
>> 
>> Because Texas cavers have no reliable newsletter, if TexasCavers listserve 
>> fails to serve its purpose, what are we to do?  I don't have a good answer. 
>> I can't blame Charles Goldsmith for wisely choosing not to moderate the 
>> list.  Who would like that job?  Perhaps we need an "ON-TOPIC" listserve 
>> with  a "three strikes and you're out" policy.
>> 
>> I'm hanging in there but it's req

Re: [Texascavers] For the record

2018-04-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck

To your point, this forum is for like-minded individuals to discuss caving. It 
is not an open form for political, religious or any other discussions that 
reach far outside caving. I don’t suppose the moderator can step in and stop 
off topic posts such as these where the caving community is being subjected to 
criticism because they wish to discuss caving on a caving forum?  

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> On Apr 2, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> Your a gluten for punishment.
> You keep on posting whatever you feel you need to on this site. 
> I expect you have as much right as the next caver to be heard.
> The CG refer to me as a troll. I submit to you a troll then must be defined 
> thusly. 
> An opposing or different view point substantiated with evidence proving to be 
> as/or more valid than that of the haters. Who in return resort to name 
> calling when out of intelligent commentary.
> The troll (or intelligent adversary) has no problem resorting to name calling 
> and sometimes resorts to pre-emptive strikes. This cuts down on the length of 
> the discussion and allows said troll to retire to his slumber under the email 
> bridge awaiting the next attack on superfluous drivel deemed important by the 
> holier than thou. 
> It has become a badge of honor to confound said holies and befuddle their 
> minds. If only they would open them a little they might find some viewpoints 
> with value. 
> At any rate David they don't care for either one of us very much. Take heart 
> in this quote from a book I read as a child"The cure for 50 enemies is a 
> single friend".
> I'm glad to see that you don't measure yourself by the acceptance of others. 
> Nor do I. After all it is only a different perspective from which we view 
> this quagmire we call society and I value knowing the point of view of those 
> that think differently than I. It is important to know who you deal with.
> Funny thing, I don't have much trouble getting along with those who have 
> taken a moment to get to know me. I dare say the same goes with your 
> idiosyncrasies and folks who take the time to see through those batcrazy eyes 
> of yours. Sometimes your observations border on brilliance, but to those who 
> discount you as simply annoying, it is a loss they suffer. I find a 
> sensitive, caring somewhat confused man who reaches out for like minded folks 
> on a medium intended.for that specific purpose.
> Carry on McDuff.
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 11:37 PM David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From David Locklear
>> 
>> There is an interesting cave story in the news.   The link below is a map of 
>> the cave in the story.
>> 
>> https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/central-london-caves-04.jpg
>> 
>> But I am not saying more.
>> 
>> Back before I officially retired, I was advised by the CG ( Cavetex Gestapos 
>> ) to stop posting stuff that anybody can Google ( like Carlsbad elevator 
>> stories )
>> 
>> 
>> Last week,
>> 
>> having some spare time due to yet another unexpected work furlough, I raked 
>> diligently through the haystack of the internet looking for a needle - some 
>> story that would spark some speleo-thought.
>> 
>> I found absolutely nothing whatsoever that was noteworthy.
>> 
>> And that is when I stumbled on to the story of The Shroud.  I made a 
>> faithful effort to keep it as cave related as possible.
>> 
>> Anyways,
>> 
>> National Geographic has already proven the Shroud is a hoax.   They made a 
>> sculpture of what the guy in the Shroud most likely looked would have looked 
>> like and it wasn't even close to the image in the Shroud ( which more 
>> closely resembles Professor Dumbledore ).   It is not my fault the Shroud 
>> story coincides with other stuff.  I was surprised to learn how many people 
>> have never heard of the Shroud or what its significance would be it it were 
>> not a hoax.   I mean, if you walked into a cave and found a shroud, wouldn't 
>> you take it home and out it in a box for safekeeping ?
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Houston question

2017-08-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I know his neighborhood was evacuated yesterday. I had heard he was in hotel 
with his wife and daughter but that was a few days ago. 

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> On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:06 AM, Jon Cradit via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> He has been uncharacteristically quite.  
> I hope it's only due to no internet connections.
> 
> Jon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 7:15 AM
> To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Cc: Jacqueline Thomas <jlrtho...@verizon.net>
> Subject: [Texascavers] Houston question
> 
> Has anyone heard anything of David Locklear? Everyone else on this list seems 
> to be accounted for. Jacqui
> 
> 
> J. LaRue Thomas
> jlrtho...@verizon.net
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion

2017-02-08 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
It's the same tired song and dance every year. I have noticed a trend of the 
complainers being the people who are the least involved. Every friggin' year. I 
like Paradise Canyon but I go to TCR to see and visit with Cavers. 

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> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon?
> 
> Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept TCR 
> there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting more 
> expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are 
> currently paying with as many amenities, showers, river, electricity, 
> bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, porto-potties, nice green manicured camping, 
> Lodges with baths and A/C. What are you griping about, we haven’t seen you 
> there in some time anyway. Besides weren’t you happy there was LODGING with 
> A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it.
> 
>> The OTR used to be fun when it moved around.
> 
> Well, this isn’t OTR.
> 
>> Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly boring 
>> after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other cooked 
>> at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it is stuck, 
>> dead in the water.
> 
> Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over to 
> you. Just say the word and it’s all yours.
> 
>> OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer  people  who 
>> were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and there 
>> were about 35  or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but cook, but 
>> enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the cob from 
>> the valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod, chicken, 
>> turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad, salad salad, 
>> black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a million 
>> brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we once had 
>> quail, and the people gobbled it up. 
> 
> Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the 
> perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead 
> and purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head 
> cook. HEY EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW HEAD COOK! WOOO!!
> 
>> All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition 
>> has died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but the 
>> old cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins. 
> 
> Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been named 
> that for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed out on 
> some fine cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP and 
> VOLUNTEERED. Stefan and Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an awesome 
> and thankless job for everybody. But of course your stepping up will easily 
> surpass their cooking, no? We look forward to it!
> 
>> Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I 
>> haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I pay 
>> for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize to 
>> those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the 
>> wool food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built fires 
>> and got after it.
> 
> Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for the 
> next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home.
> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> Paradise Canyon
>>> October 12-15, 2017
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Safety Check 2

2017-01-05 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
David, that is horrifying. The EMT's would have known if she was in a deep 
sleep, I think. Take her to her regular physician. 

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> On Jan 5, 2017, at 5:14 AM, David via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> From David Locklear
> 
> Doctor claims I over-reacted and that our daughter was in a deep sleep.
> 
> They claim I should not have done CPR ?
> 
> It turns out while I was doing that my wife was driving to the fire-station 
> banging on the door and I have never once seen that fire-station used before.
> 
> They are sending her home now after we sign all the papers.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2016-10-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I think constructive criticism is acceptable. However, it does not have to be 
harsh. I have offered to do proofreading and I am happy to help if I can. 

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> On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Carl, A nice critique of the state of The Texas Caver. I don't have an 
> opinion but do enjoy reading it when it is published. Fritz Holt
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Texas Caver
>>  
>> So here we go again with the Texas Caver.  Every few years we are seeking a 
>> new editor or at least discussing options that might disburse the rowdy 
>> crowds that are assembling at the gates with torches and pitchforks. 
>>  
>> What is gong on here?  Why is it that every few years there is a Texas Caver 
>> crisis and a less than graceful transition to a new editor?
>>  
>> There is lots of talk about the Texas Caver.  From the outset, there seems 
>> to have been some confusion regarding the difference between good journalism 
>> and nice graphic arts. Unfortunately, neither has been regularly in 
>> evidence.  Maybe I've missed it, but I can't recall anyone praising the 
>> Caver for high quality journalism or the reliability of production.  The 
>> editor has a few passionate defenders who are willing to do battle with any 
>> and all detractors, but the current editorial has now acknowledged what has 
>> been evident for several years.
>>  
>> The coming transition is an opportunity to learn from previous mistakes. 
>> Texas cavers appreciate good grammar, proper spelling, and nice graphics 
>> but, failing that, are willing to forgive a lot if the Caver shows signs of 
>> having been carefully crafted with attention to detail:  nice photographs 
>> properly captioned and credited; articles well laid out with all elements 
>> present; no space used as a personal blog; and perhaps most importantly, 
>> timely production.
>>  
>> I was handed a copy of the most recent Texas Caver at the TSA meeting Sunday 
>> morning, October 16.  When I looked at the cover, my first thought was 
>> "huh?"   I rotated the page through 360 degrees as I searched in vain for a 
>> person or anything for scale.  Despairing, I then looked inside for the 
>> caption information.  I didn't find much.  The picture credits Peter Bosted 
>> and apparently depicts a scene from the Big Island, Hawaii.  I infer that it 
>> pictures something within a cave and is not merely a hand sample from a flea 
>> market or mineral show.  As usual, there is no proper  caption information.  
>> A closer look at the cover reveals "haul" to be misspelled and a Government 
>> Canyon report proffered as being from "2105."  Those errors are egregious 
>> and, sadly, are but a preview of others to come.
>>  
>> In the present issue (the word "current" can't properly be applied since it 
>> is about six months late),  pages 4 and 5 are mostly filled with 
>> pictures—none with caption information—and the top photo on page 4 suffers 
>> from a lack of pixel information by at least one order of magnitude.  Where 
>> is the graphic arts expertise we are often reminded of?  If a photo is 
>> essential and a small file is the  best available, then please reduce the 
>> printed size.  At the top of page 5 there is a full half page devoted to two 
>> guys stirring a large pot of food. What about the "hero" shot at the top of 
>> page 6?  Neither photo is captioned or credited.  It's a poor use of space 
>> that TSA's  hard copy subscribers are paying for.  In fact, there is a lot 
>> of "white space" in every issue.  I am reminded of some prior issues with 
>> long personal "blogs" that should never have appeared in the Caver.  
>> Furthermore, we are subjected to the new English word, "givin."   Page 8  
>> treats us to another low resolution photo with no credit or caption.  Page 9 
>> credits the photographer  but tells us nothing else.  More of the same on 
>> pages 10-11.  Sadly, this trend continues throughout the remainder of the 
>> issue with a few other photos offering no information  whatsoever.  This has 
>> been a problem for many years.  The Editor seems unable to grasp the notion 
>> that a picture without caption information looses a major portion of i

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2016-10-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
These folks are volunteers. You should appreciate volunteers for the effort 
they put into whatever task they own. They certainly aren't doing it for the 
admiration. Otherwise, pay someone. Or do it yourself. 

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> On Oct 26, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> As a trained and educated artist, recent volunteer Texas Cavers Reunion cat 
> herder, and past Texas Caver Editor (a particularly thankless job) I have 
> always found plenty of folks to endlessly criticize or complain, it's an 
> integral part of the job and one learns to recognize the difference between 
> "criticism" & "opinion". However, novices (volunteers who stepped up to do a 
> job when no one else would) aren't usually trained or skilled or ready to 
> deal with criticism. It can be counterproductive.
> 
> At TCR typically I ask critics to step up and help solve whatever they think 
> isn't happening to their expectation. One of two things happens; they step up 
> and do something -or- they shut up and do nothing. In my experience the vast 
> majority of complainers choose the latter.
> 
> At TCR, lots of people voice ideas about how it -should- be done, and I get 
> tons of criticism of how "it got done wrong", or how "it should be done in 
> the future" or how "it was done better in the past". Plenty of suggestions, 
> oodles of constructive ideas. But when it come time for those same volunteers 
> to step up and stand behind their suggestions and help - very very few ever 
> follow through. Ever. They usually disappear with the words "how about 
> helping out then?" The ones that actually see the job done are the ones who 
> want it done and do it. 
> 
> Criticism can be constructive, such as when someone expects it or asks for 
> it. Or the critic is willing to step in and help firsthand, which is usually 
> welcomed. Especially useful are wisdom and experience. Otherwise it's just 
> opinion.
> 
> When someone is struggling on the side of a busy highway trying to change a 
> flat tire, it's real easy to drive past and shout out the window "lift with 
> your knees!"
> 
> --Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --Don
> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Texas Caver
>>  
>> So here we go again with the Texas Caver.  Every few years we are seeking a 
>> new editor or at least discussing options that might disburse the rowdy 
>> crowds that are assembling at the gates with torches and pitchforks. 
>>  
>> What is gong on here?  Why is it that every few years there is a Texas Caver 
>> crisis and a less than graceful transition to a new editor?
>>  
>> There is lots of talk about the Texas Caver.  From the outset, there seems 
>> to have been some confusion regarding the difference between good journalism 
>> and nice graphic arts. Unfortunately, neither has been regularly in 
>> evidence.  Maybe I've missed it, but I can't recall anyone praising the 
>> Caver for high quality journalism or the reliability of production.  The 
>> editor has a few passionate defenders who are willing to do battle with any 
>> and all detractors, but the current editorial has now acknowledged what has 
>> been evident for several years.
>>  
>> The coming transition is an opportunity to learn from previous mistakes. 
>> Texas cavers appreciate good grammar, proper spelling, and nice graphics 
>> but, failing that, are willing to forgive a lot if the Caver shows signs of 
>> having been carefully crafted with attention to detail:  nice photographs 
>> properly captioned and credited; articles well laid out with all elements 
>> present; no space used as a personal blog; and perhaps most importantly, 
>> timely production.
>>  
>> I was handed a copy of the most recent Texas Caver at the TSA meeting Sunday 
>> morning, October 16.  When I looked at the cover, my first thought was 
>> "huh?"   I rotated the page through 360 degrees as I searched in vain for a 
>> person or anything for scale.  Despairing, I then looked inside for the 
>> caption information.  I didn't find much.  The picture credits Peter Bosted 
>> and apparently depicts a scene from the Big Island, Hawaii.  I infer that it 
>> pictures something within a cave and is not merely a hand sample from a flea 
>> market or mineral show.  As usual, there is no proper  caption information.  
>> A closer 

Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2016

2016-10-18 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Ditto!

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> On Oct 18, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Denise P via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> I'd just like to say, wow, what a great time! Beautiful site and beautiful 
> people. 292 folks registered. Thanks to everyone who volunteered, especially 
> our fearless leader Don Arburn! Already looking forward to next year's event!
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]

2016-09-13 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Dessie,

Will Rupley is picking it up, but THANK YOU for offering. 

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Dessie Pierce via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> I think I can bring the Shiner! I just have to make sure I can borrow my 
> brother's truck. 
> 
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>> On 2016-09-13 05:02, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, dishes and I'll put you down as Survey. I think David Ochle historically 
>> did it, but I have not heard from him.
>> 
>> 
>> --Don
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don,
>>> 
>>> I can help wash dishes or help organize the survey comp.
>>> 
>>> Marvin
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Don Arburn via Texascavers
>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:41 PM
>>> To: TSA Cavers List <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR]
>>> 
>>> One Month Left!!
>>> 
>>> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:
>>> 
>>> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!)
>>> 
>>> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.
>>> 
>>> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this 
>>> again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB?
>>> 
>>> •Ropes Organizers
>>> 
>>> •Survey Squad organizers
>>> 
>>> •SpeleOlympic organizers
>>> 
>>> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers
>>> 
>>> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together.
>>> 
>>> •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee)
>>> 
>>> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me
>>> 
>>> --Chief Cat Herder
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Re: [Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]

2016-08-10 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
You are welcome. I'll bring my own dish washing items except the pans to wash 
them in. 

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Done! Thanks!
> 
> 
> --Don
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I can take on the dish washing again for the Saturday night feed.
>> 
>> Sheryl Rieck
>> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
>> find you get what you need" Rolling Stones
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Volunteers are what makes TCR happen. And this is a call for them. TCR 
>>> needs confirmations for the following:
>>> •Dish washers
>>> •Firewood gatherers (to be done at PC)
>>> •Door Prize Vixens
>>> •TP Patrol 
>>> •Registration Nation
>>> •Shiner Retrievers
>>> •Recyclers
>>> •Ropes Popes (climbing)
>>> •Survey Squad
>>> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers
>>> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence)
>>> •Minion(s)
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]

2016-08-10 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I can take on the dish washing again for the Saturday night feed.

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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Volunteers are what makes TCR happen. And this is a call for them. TCR needs 
> confirmations for the following:
> •Dish washers
> •Firewood gatherers (to be done at PC)
> •Door Prize Vixens
> •TP Patrol 
> •Registration Nation
> •Shiner Retrievers
> •Recyclers
> •Ropes Popes (climbing)
> •Survey Squad
> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers
> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence)
> •Minion(s)
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] finalized Program for this weekend

2016-04-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
If you just decline the app download and/or signup, you can select Direct 
Download from the top menu bar. Then you just need an acrobat reader. Unless it 
is the pdf file type you object to?

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> On Apr 19, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Caver via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any other type that we can view the program? I don't want to 
> download an app that I will never use again and have no desire to. 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Daniel Ramirez
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Program is back from the printers.  Thanks to the 2016 NSS Convention 
>> for buying adspace and allowing us to print in color.  Preview the PDF 
>> version at 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbqsne2renz0js3/2016%20TSA%20Convention%20program%20v2.pdf?dl=0.
>> 
>> NOTE TO PRESENTERS: make sure that you have ALL of your talk on your laptop 
>> or flash drive. Do not assume that you will have internet access at the 
>> fairgrounds. You will not be able to go online to show any Google Earth 
>> images or YouTube videos when you are there. Download everything in advance, 
>> and make sure it works before you arrive.
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!

2016-04-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Let me know when to send money. Thanks, Ellie. 

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> On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Cavers,
> 
> 2 more weeks until I place another order of the Honey Creek Cave T shirts 
> designed by Don Arburn. If anyone is interested, let me know size and 
> quantity. I will take your order now and follow up with payment details at 
> the end of the month. 
> 
> Pricing:
> $21.23 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 12 shirts
> $13.08 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 24 shirts
> Personalization is easy! $5.00 per Name and $3.00 per Number
> Please let me know if you would like a shirt, size and quantity. I will keep 
> your info and follow up with you on final price and payment details on May 1, 
> 2016.
> 
> I will need payment through paypal before I make the order on May 1, 2016. If 
> you want me to ship your shirt to you, I will also need $ for shipping. I 
> will give you a total quote before I place the order and you can accept and 
> pay me or decline.
> 
> T shirt type: Gildan Heavy Cotton Basic T-Shirt | Color - Purple
> Print Type: Screenprinting
> Photo of shirt at https://goo.gl/photos/Z46r9oM6BPSCXvTL7
> 
> Cavingly,
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!

2016-04-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I have a signature setup for my email that appends my name, email address and 
quote each time I respond to or create an email. I doubt many email clients do 
not have this feature. It keeps me from having to remember. 

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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, so PLEASE, everyone sign your names to your posts!
> 
> Jim Kennedy
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> Denise, this has been in effect for over a year, damned anti-spam 
>> mechanisms.  Some email clients will show a from name, some will not.
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Denise P via Texascavers 
>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>> Is this a new thing where one cannot tell who write an email to the list 
>>> serve? Might be good to  start signing our names to pour posts.
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!

2016-04-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I'll send her my SS# and bank account info. 

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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:32 AM, ryan monjaras via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Ellie Falgot? She's a Nigerian princess, totally ligit. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+.
> 
> 
> ---- Original message 
> From: Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Date: 4/2/2016 9:29 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for 
> Sale!
> 
> Who are you? I hate to send money to people I don't know. 
> 
> Sheryl Rieck
> sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
> 
> "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
> find you get what you need" Rolling Stones
> 
> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am willing to place another order of Honey Creek Cave T shirts if anyone 
>> is interested. I will accept payment through the end of the month and place 
>> the order on May 1, 2016.
>> 
>> Pricing:
>> $21.23 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 12 shirts
>> $13.08 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 24 shirts
>> Personalization is easy! $5.00 per Name and $3.00 per Number
>> Please let me know if you would like a shirt, size and quantity. I will keep 
>> your info and follow up with you on final price and payment details on May 
>> 1, 2016.
>> 
>> I will need payment through paypal before I make the order on May 1, 2016. 
>> If you want me to ship your shirt to you, I will also need $ for shipping. I 
>> will give you a total quote before I place the order and you can accept and 
>> pay me or decline.
>> 
>> T shirt type: Gildan Heavy Cotton Basic T-Shirt | Color - Purple
>> Print Type: Screenprinting
>> Photo of shirt at https://goo.gl/photos/Z46r9oM6BPSCXvTL7
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Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!

2016-04-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Who are you? I hate to send money to people I don't know. 

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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> I am willing to place another order of Honey Creek Cave T shirts if anyone is 
> interested. I will accept payment through the end of the month and place the 
> order on May 1, 2016.
> 
> Pricing:
> $21.23 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 12 shirts
> $13.08 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 24 shirts
> Personalization is easy! $5.00 per Name and $3.00 per Number
> Please let me know if you would like a shirt, size and quantity. I will keep 
> your info and follow up with you on final price and payment details on May 1, 
> 2016.
> 
> I will need payment through paypal before I make the order on May 1, 2016. If 
> you want me to ship your shirt to you, I will also need $ for shipping. I 
> will give you a total quote before I place the order and you can accept and 
> pay me or decline.
> 
> T shirt type: Gildan Heavy Cotton Basic T-Shirt | Color - Purple
> Print Type: Screenprinting
> Photo of shirt at https://goo.gl/photos/Z46r9oM6BPSCXvTL7
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Re: [Texascavers] Caver seeks pre-TCR San Antonio lodging

2015-10-05 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I look forward to seeing you at TCR, Frank. Want to wash some dishes? :-)

I hate to be Debbie downer but I won't miss the chopper. I live in Houston and 
I listen to them flying over my house every day, several times a day starting 
at 6am.

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> On Oct 5, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Frank Binney via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks San Antonio cavers! I’m now covered for Wednesday night. 
> Stefan—Sorry I can’t chop stuff in Austin, but will help you and the other 
> cooks with prep on site.
> Nico—Chopper pilot doesn’t like the look of the canyon and various 
> hard-to-see-from-the-air power lines at PC, so probably no quick hop over to 
> the Salt Lick for BBQ lunch this year. 
> Looking forward to seeing everyone at Paradise Canyon!
> Frank
> 
> From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> on behalf of Texas 
> Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Reply-To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Date: Monday, October 5, 2015 at 6:55 AM
> To: Texas Cavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caver seeks pre-TCR San Antonio lodging
> 
> 
> No chopper ride this year Frank?
> 
> Nico
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2015, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> Come to Austin and chop stuff for the w/e food. We have beds too…
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -Stefan
>> 
>> (Chief cook… someone else has claimed bottle washer)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Frank Binney via Texascavers
>> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 6:43 PM
>> To: Texas Cavers
>> Subject: [Texascavers] Caver seeks pre-TCR San Antonio lodging
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Anybody on the west side of San Antonio have some sleeping bag floor space 
>> for a visiting caver the night of Wednesday Oct 14th? I’m flying in from 
>> Hottubistan (Northern California) that afternoon, renting a car, and 
>> planning on driving over to Paradise Canyon on Thursday. Would love to 
>> stay/visit with a local caver(s) Wednesday night instead of the sterile 
>> Motel 6 option.
>> 
>> Your expatriate Texan friend,
>> 
>> Frank
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Frank Binney
>> 
>> Frank Binney & Associates
>> 
>> Interpretive Planning and Media Development
>> 
>> P.O. Box 258
>> 
>> Woodacre, CA 94973
>> 
>> 415.488.1200 Voice
>> 
>> 415.488.1500 Fax
>> 
>> 415.999.0556 Mobile
>> 
>> fr...@frankbinney.com
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[Texascavers] Off-topic Running boards for sale

2015-10-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
These running boards came off my '94 Toyota 4Runner. I'm getting rid of them. 
They are in Houston. Let me know if you are interested. Email or text are best. 
Email is below. Text to 281-682-6313. Dog feet not included. 




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Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: Jim McLane photo

2015-09-23 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
His article about a one way trip to Mars was published all over the place and 
much discussed. 

Jim was an incredibly interesting person. He was the first Houston caver I met. 
He rode with me to my first TCR and it was the greatest road trip as Jim 
regaled me with tales of his adventures caving. I'm going to miss him a lot. 

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> On Sep 23, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> As you may recall, Jim was a scientist with NASA for a number of years and an 
> interesting fellow. As all have said, his presence will be missed. 
> Fritz Holt
> fritz...@gmail.com
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: Jerry via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> Date: September 23, 2015 at 3:22:09 AM CDT
>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Jim McLane photo
>> Reply-To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> Here's another photo of Jim in more recent years. I believe it was taken in 
>> 2006. Not sure by whom.
>> 
>> Jerry.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carl Kunath via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> To: TexasCavers <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 10:19 pm
>> Subject: [Texascavers] Jim McLane photo
>> 
>> Like all of you, I was shocked to receive the news of Jim’s passing.
>> He was an irrepressible adventurer with a extraordinary intellect.
>> We will certainly miss his presence in the caving community.
>>  
>> I don’t have too many photos of Jim but I especially like this one 
>> (photographer unknown) taken
>> in his younger days on a visit to Gruta de Carrizal in November 1964.
>>  
>> We are diminished.
>>  
>> ===Carl Kunath
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Re: [Texascavers] Sad news

2015-09-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
His father died a two or three years ago. 

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> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers 
> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
> 
> Or… Are we perhaps referring to the father of James McLane III, also a NASA 
> engineer but not the caver? 
> 
> 
> Jacqui Thomas
> jlrtho...@verizon.net
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 5:51 PM, Jacqueline Thomas via Texascavers wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I am so very sad to hear that--we email occasionally and I always look 
>> forward to seeing him at caving events. I no idea…  Jacqui
>> 
>> 
>> Jacqui Thomas
>> jlrtho...@verizon.net
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers wrote:
>>> 
>>> Texas cavers,
>>> 
>>> I just learned that Houston caver Jim McLane has passed away. 
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] used sheet metal roofing up for grab

2015-08-29 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Look at all you guys playing so nicely together. 

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 On Aug 29, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I could use 15-20 sheets and will have some 6ft chunks leftover. I can help 
 load a trailer. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:46 AM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com 
 wrote:
 
 I think there may be enough to for all of our needs. I need 14 sheets, Crash 
 needs like 12, mike wants 10, and Andy wants 450 square feet however much 
 that is and ill take the rest to finish out my privacy fence 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Thanks, Diana!

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 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Sheryl,
 
 I will drop by during the food prep and cooking time before dinner and help 
 with dish washing.
 
 Diana
 
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 (214) 645-6383 (phone)
 (214) 645-6353 (fax)
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
 find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Ha.. in other words, on demand!
 
 In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it would 
 be helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin Bearers just 
 bring the tp?
 
 Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. No one 
 should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as needed.
 
 Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd  the 
 Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers early.
 
 And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and respected 
 Loo Crew really does...
 
 The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.
 
 I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year and 
 assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I could 
 help with one of these too?
 
 Cheers,
 Karen
 
 Maybe you could.
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf 
 Of Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my shift be?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Done! Thanks! Questions?
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote:
 
 I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
 Holly Weinstock
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 O.K. troglodytes  troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs 
 help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently 
 slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free 
 fun.
 However, TCR needs some volunteers.
 
 Charmin Bearers
 Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
 Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
 Recycle Gatherers
 Slideshow Nerds
 Speleolympics Officials
 Signmaker
 
 Please give me a shout if you think you can help!
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 

Sheryl Rieck
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You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
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 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Ha.. in other words, on demand!
 
 In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it would be 
 helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin Bearers just bring 
 the tp?
 
 Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. No one 
 should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as needed.
 
 Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd  the Speleolympics 
 Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers early.
 
 And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and respected Loo 
 Crew really does...
 
 The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.
 
 I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year and 
 assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I could 
 help with one of these too?
 
 Cheers,
 Karen
 
 Maybe you could.
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my shift be?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
  texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Done! Thanks! Questions?
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote:
 
  I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
  Holly Weinstock
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
  texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  O.K. troglodytes  troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs 
  help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently 
  slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free 
  fun.
  However, TCR needs some volunteers.
 
  Charmin Bearers
  Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
  Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
  Recycle Gatherers
  Slideshow Nerds
  Speleolympics Officials
  Signmaker
 
  Please give me a shout if you think you can help!
  Thanks!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Oops. Hit send prematurely. 

Don said I could be the boss!

But, I understand and will make sure they get done after dinner. I don't like 
crusty dishes. 

Sheryl Rieck
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You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey! You aren't the boss! Don told me I could b
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
 find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Diana, Sheryl,
 
 The optimum time for dishwashing is actually *after* dinner. Cooking pots, 
 etc. are emptied into the serving vessels as late as possible, and then 
 serving vessels are emptied by hungry cavers. *That* is when there is lots 
 of washing up to be done.
 
 It is best done that evening, before it has caked on overnight. In the 
 morning we really just want to pack up dry gear and go home, not wash the 
 dishes and wait for them to dry.
 
 Cheers,
 Stefan
 
 Ps. That is not to say that we don't need people to wash stuff while we 
 prepare; just that the bulk of it is after dinner.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 Thanks, Diana!
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
 find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Sheryl,
 
 I will drop by during the food prep and cooking time before dinner and help 
 with dish washing.
 
 Diana
 
 **
 Diana R. Tomchick
 Professor
 Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas
 Southwestern Medical Center
 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
 Rm. ND10.214A
 Dallas, TX 75390-8816
 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 (214) 645-6383 (phone)
 (214) 645-6353 (fax)
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just
 might find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Ha.. in other words, on demand!
 
 In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it 
 would be helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin 
 Bearers just bring the tp?
 
 Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. No 
 one should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as 
 needed.
 
 Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd  the 
 Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers 
 early.
 
 And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and respected 
 Loo Crew really does...
 
 The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.
 
 I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year 
 and assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I 
 could help with one of these too?
 
 Cheers,
 Karen
 
 Maybe you could.
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On
 Behalf Of Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my shift be?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Done! Thanks! Questions?
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote:
 
 I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
 Holly Weinstock
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 O.K. troglodytes  troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs 
 help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently 
 slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free 
 fun.
 However, TCR needs some volunteers.
 
 Charmin Bearers
 Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
 Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
 Recycle Gatherers
 Slideshow Nerds
 Speleolympics Officials
 Signmaker

Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Hey! You aren't the boss! Don told me I could b

Sheryl Rieck
sheryl.ri...@gmail.com

You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Diana, Sheryl,
 
 The optimum time for dishwashing is actually *after* dinner. Cooking pots, 
 etc. are emptied into the serving vessels as late as possible, and then 
 serving vessels are emptied by hungry cavers. *That* is when there is lots of 
 washing up to be done.
 
 It is best done that evening, before it has caked on overnight. In the 
 morning we really just want to pack up dry gear and go home, not wash the 
 dishes and wait for them to dry.
 
 Cheers,
 Stefan
 
 Ps. That is not to say that we don't need people to wash stuff while we 
 prepare; just that the bulk of it is after dinner.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
 Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:25 AM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 Thanks, Diana!
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
 find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Sheryl,
 
 I will drop by during the food prep and cooking time before dinner and help 
 with dish washing.
 
 Diana
 
 **
 Diana R. Tomchick
 Professor
 Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas
 Southwestern Medical Center
 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
 Rm. ND10.214A
 Dallas, TX 75390-8816
 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
 (214) 645-6383 (phone)
 (214) 645-6353 (fax)
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 
 
 Sheryl Rieck
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
 You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just
 might find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
 On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Ha.. in other words, on demand!
 
 In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it would 
 be helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin Bearers just 
 bring the tp?
 
 Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. No 
 one should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as 
 needed.
 
 Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd  the 
 Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers 
 early.
 
 And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and respected 
 Loo Crew really does...
 
 The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.
 
 I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year and 
 assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I could 
 help with one of these too?
 
 Cheers,
 Karen
 
 Maybe you could.
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On
 Behalf Of Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
 I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my shift be?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Done! Thanks! Questions?
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote:
 
 I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
 Holly Weinstock
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 O.K. troglodytes  troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs 
 help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently 
 slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free 
 fun.
 However, TCR needs some volunteers.
 
 Charmin Bearers
 Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
 Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
 Recycle Gatherers
 Slideshow Nerds
 Speleolympics Officials
 Signmaker
 
 Please give me a shout if you think you can help!
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]

2015-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Gotcha down. Thanks!

Sheryl Rieck
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Yes, Dish Minion for me.



  On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Sheryl,
 
  I will drop by during the food prep and cooking time before dinner and
 help with dish washing.
 
  Diana
 
  **
  Diana R. Tomchick
  Professor
  Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
  University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
  5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
  Rm. ND10.214A
  Dallas, TX 75390-8816
  diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
  (214) 645-6383 (phone)
  (214) 645-6353 (fax)
 
  On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Don had promised me dish washing minions. Come be my minion! 
 
  Sheryl Rieck
  sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 
  You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just
 might find you get what you need Rolling Stones
 
  On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Ha.. in other words, on demand!
 
  In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it
 would be helpful to describe a little of what they do?  Do Charmin Bearers
 just bring the tp?
 
  Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed.
 No one should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as
 needed.
 
  Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd  the
 Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers early.
 
  And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and
 respected Loo Crew really does...
 
  The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean.
 
  I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year
 and assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I
 could help with one of these too?
 
  Cheers,
  Karen
 
  Maybe you could.
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
  Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On
 Behalf Of Holly Weinstock via Texascavers
  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
 
  I guess basically - What will I be doing?  And when will my shift be?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  Done! Thanks! Questions?
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote:
 
  I can be a Recycle Gatherer.
  Holly Weinstock
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
  O.K. troglodytes  troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it
 needs help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently
 slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free fun.
  However, TCR needs some volunteers.
 
  Charmin Bearers
  Paradise Canyon Loo Crew
  Scrubby Dish Washer Crews
  Recycle Gatherers
  Slideshow Nerds
  Speleolympics Officials
  Signmaker
 
  Please give me a shout if you think you can help!
  Thanks!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden

2015-03-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I'm sorry for your loss.

Sheryl Rieck
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Kurt L. Menking via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

  Scott Harden, and active Caver, Geologist, Biologist, Mountain climber,
 and a friend passed away last week.  He was a graduate from UT and a very
 active caver in the 70-80’s.  He spent a few years caving in the Austin
 area, made numerous trips to Mexico, then moved back to San Antonio, and
 was actively caving there for many years.



 He spent many years caring for his ailing parent in the 90’s and up until
 his mom died in 2011.  His health had been declining over the past few
 years.  He constantly emailed his friends with humorous, goofy, and
 insulting emails numerous times each day, and when those emails stopped,
 and he wouldn’t answer his phone several of us were concerned.  One of his
 friends went to his house, and after he didn’t get a response, he called
 the police who eventually discovered Scott dead inside.



 I am planning to host a memorial / celebration of his life at my house
 Saturday April 18th starting at 6:30pm.  Anyone interested please RSVP so
 we’ll know how to contact you with more details as we get closer.



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Re: [Texascavers] Remembering Mr. Spock

2015-02-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
That's a really nice story. 

Sheryl Rieck
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find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Feb 27, 2015, at 2:23 PM, via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com 
 wrote:
 
 When the movie, Star Trek-the Motion Picture was filmed, I as working 
 for Boss Films, a special effects studio in Los Angeles. There were two days 
 of fliming close-ups of Mr. Spock, one scene where he had bright lights 
 flashing at this face. I had been asked if I had any large flashbulbs they 
 could use for the shoot, and I did. It was the remenants of flashbulbs and a 
 reflector I had dragged through some of the caves in Cuetzalan, Mexico while 
 doing some cave photography. There was a worry that some of the bulbs could 
 be cracked, in which case they would explode when fired, but luckily, none of 
 them did during the several takes it took to film it. I worked in the 
 darkroon and there was a sliding door leading to the front office and a 
 hallway. As I opened the door one day, I was startled to find Lenard Nimoy 
 leaning against the wall smoking a cigarette; he was in costume with his 
 pointy ears, and all I could think of saying was, Hi, I understand you are 
 from Boston. How lame, but still a notable recollection.
 
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR 2015 Survey

2015-01-07 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I like Paradise Canyon.  Water would be nice, but I don't spend any time
boating or fishing so it is not a deal killer for me. My two cents worth.

Sheryl Rieck
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 Ok, Cavers, I'm starting to think about this upcoming TCR, locations and
 dates. Paradise Canyon called me yesterday, and asked me to ask around and
 spread the word that if we have any need for a meeting site, he'd be happy
 to help. We all like PC, but they still have no water. It's not a deal
 killer. It's an option for TSA, TCMA and TCR.
 How do y'all feel about this site?

 Next is the date. There have been several traditional weekends and many
 suggestions etc. I've penciled in the weekend of October 15-18 as a target
 date.
 How do y'all feel about that?


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Re: [Texascavers] Unbecoming conduct

2014-12-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I'm not a male/boy caver and I am telling you that your attack on David was 
unjustified, inappropriate and about the nastiest thing I have ever seen. There 
are people on this listserv I do not like and I would never treat them in such 
a harsh manner. I certainly would not go on a public forum with such a foul 
mouthed and hateful diatribe. 

Sheryl Rieck
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You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Yes, all coming from male/boy cavers- ha like that means anything. 
 What a truly pathetic world u boys live in!
 So glad he/they aren't in the real world. Boy, u sure mixed that one up and u 
 obvious are NO judge of character!
 
 On Dec 22, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I really like Bockbeer and will defend him, and I know for a fact he is as 
 goofy as they come but more power to goofy. Character is wonderful and if 
 the anals don't like it well they can all move to San Angelo and live next 
 door to Mr Koonuth.
 
 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Jerry via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Hear, hear !  The world's a more interesting place with characters like 
 Locklear (=Bockbeer).
  
 Jerry Atkinson.
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Loving via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com
 Sent: Mon, Dec 22, 2014 4:49 pm
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Unbecoming conduct
 
 I have broken bread with Bockbeer and chased him around Acuna as he looked 
 for a store that didn't exist while my other caver pal was shucking a 
 dentist which was a real hoot. Bockbeer got lost but we found him and we 
 all had a great time. Don't pick on one of the most entertaining caver type 
 we have on the list.
 
 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Julie Jenkins via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 Who the hell decided that one?
 You ALL know from years of dealing with and all of u bitching about 
 locklear that I said nothing hundreds of u haven't wanted to say out loud 
 for years!
 I'm not gonna start down the caver list of those I've heard say much the 
 same as I.
 Sadly 'the boys' have never had the balls to call dwn another male!  Is 
 there no male out there who is honest enough to call it like u see it w a 
 male caver? Oh, but ever so ballsy to call my conduct unbecoming - yet, 
 what I write was quite truthful.
 U boys just need to man up.
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Re: [Texascavers] Mike Anderson

2014-11-14 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I am sorry for your loss. 

Sheryl Rieck
sheryl.ri...@gmail.com

You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Nov 14, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Butch Fralia via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 It's with great sadness that I announce the passing yesterday morning of good 
 friend and caving buddy Mike Anderson in a vehicle accident near Hamilton 
 Texas. Mike is survived by his Wife Julie, daughter Meta Huzarevich, son Evan 
 Anderson, brother J. J Bruce Anderson and sister-in-law Donna Anderson.
 
 Mike will be remembered by many Texas cavers for the volunteer time and 
 effort he put in getting the '94 NSS convention in Brackettville up and 
 running. He was a past chairman of The Maverick Grotto in Fort Worth and put 
 in a lot of time at the Colorado Bend Project. .
 
 Rest in Peace and happy trails. Michael.
 
  
  
 Butch Fralia
 3412 Walton Ave.
 Fort Worth, TX 76133-2230
 bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
 (Home) 817 346-2039
 (Cell) 817 229-7693
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same

2014-10-01 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that 
consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are and 
I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts 
discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would 
like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the 
turbines. 

Sheryl Rieck
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You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 This has been a big problem for birds for years, especially large groups of 
 migrating birds.
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same

2014-10-01 Thread Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers
Thanks, Jim. I was sure there had to be research going on for solutions. I'll 
take a look.  I am also sure it is not a simple solution. I just hope a viable 
one is identified. 

Thanks,

Sheryl Rieck
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You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might 
find you get what you need Rolling Stones

 On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 Sheryl,
 
 It's not a simple problem with an easy solution. There has been a whole lot 
 of research regarding bats and wind turbines. An excellent source of 
 information is www.batsandwind.org
 
 Jim Kennedy, the bat guy
 cavercr...@gmail.com
 
 Mobile email from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
 
 I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that 
 consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are 
 and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts 
 discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I 
 would like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers 
 from the turbines. 
 
 Sheryl Rieck
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[Texascavers] George

2014-04-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Checking to see if George has been added to the lists. 

Sheryl

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Re: [Texascavers] Mystery cave

2014-02-23 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Mr. Goldsmith,

I would like to thank you and commend you for always administering this 
listserv with fairness of mind.  You are an adept peace keeper and nonsense 
stopper including when it is my nonsense.  

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

 On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
 
 That's ridiculous, this list traffic has gone way down compared to previous 
 years.  We are also at our highest point in membership, 414 members 
 currently.  
 
 When I took over the list in 2008 or so, we had just barely over 300 members.
 
 It always seems that when someone sees a post that they don't agree with or 
 don't like, they want to complain about the number of posts or that it's not 
 appropriate.  As most people state, you have a delete key, or use a 
 filter/rule on your email client to sort the email.
 
 These last few days of posts have been directly related to caving.  I don't 
 know what else people are looking for in a mailing list that covers such a 
 large geographic area.
 
 Pete, if you know someone specifically that quit and was complaining about 
 the posts, I'd be interested in chatting with them, please forward this email 
 to them.
 
 Thanks
 Charles
 list administrator and lurker
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM, pstrickla...@austin.rr.com wrote:
All I know is that half the Austin cavers have gotten off Cavetex because 
 of too many posts!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Fw: Never go to Mexico- Kurt Caselli killed in Baja 1000

2013-11-17 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I agree it is no reason to never go to Mexico. Things like this happen even
here.  It is horrible.

Sheryl


Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am not allergic and you don't get much whiter-skinned than I. I also
 have never heard of any particular ethnic group immunity. The pink goop
 helps, calamine lotion. You should avoid spreading by not scratching and
 then touching other parts of your body. It mostly has to run its course
 unless you go to the doctor.

 Sheryl

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 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from
 personal experience?

 Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
 water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

 Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
 white-skinned people are the most allergic ?

 David Locklear





Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the
other treatments.

Sheryl

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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:

 A related product is Tecnu http://www.teclabsinc.com/**
 products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnuhttp://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu
 **, also commonly available at pharmacies.  These products wash away the
 oily residue that causes the rash .  They work best when used as soon as
 possible after exposure, but can help even the next day or two.  Calamine
 (pink stuff), on the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and
 antiseptic.  It reduces itching, but doesn't really cure the problem
 (treats the symptoms, not the disease).  (I'm also not affected by poison
 ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.)

 Mark


 At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

 I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump
 on me, always have been.  The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it
 is http://www.walgreens.com/**store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-**
 wash/ID=prod6113607-producthttp://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product

 Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named
 brand.  I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results.  it's
 expensive, but worth every cent.

 Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me.
  There was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local
 pharmacist, drop it into a pint of water and spread the resulting
 concoction on me, but I swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I
 don't know the name either.

 If you can, try the above link

 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from
 personal experience?

 Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ?

 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot
 water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable.

 Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that
 white-skinned people are the most allergic ?

 David Locklear


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 Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org

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Re: [Texascavers] Ladder-falling 101

2013-10-10 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Glad there was no serious damage. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

 On Oct 10, 2013, at 8:36 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't know if it was jealousy or envy, but I felt the urge to join my 
 ladder falling friends tonight.
 
 As hard as I tried, I could not get hospitalized.
 
 I did in style though, and would have scored a ten, had the judges been there.
 
 It is probably my imagination, but in that micro-second that I was airborne, 
 my brain had time to say to itself, you got to be frickin kidding me.
 
 The moral to the story is, 
 There is really a reason not to stand on that top step.
 
 And,
 
 for once I can say, my fat posterior came in handy, as it took the brunt of 
 the fall.
 
 David Locklear


Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: SHARING THE LOAD

2013-09-30 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Good grief! That sounds awful. Wishing you a speedy recovery. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

 On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: imoca...@comcast.net
 Date: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM
 Subject: Re: SHARING THE LOAD
 To: Charles Goldsmith ad...@caves.org
 
 50 years of some pretty hard-core caving without incident, but I climb a10-ft 
 ladder to scrub mildew off the siding and give myself a major f'up. Bad break 
 of the R femur w/ 4 displaced pieces, requiring a 10 SS rod down thru the 
 marrow  an offset screw to reattach the ball. Virtually no use of the leg 
 now, but it's coming back slowly.  Rehab complicated by having also broken 3 
 bones in my R wrist, now immobilised and not weight-bearing.  All that was 
 done by intanglement in the ladder, before I ever hit the deck. Then there's 
 the full-body bruising and scraping associated with the fall.  I'm one sore 
 puppy! Looks like I'll be discharged to PT today, likely for 2+ weeks.
 
 
 Alex Sproul
 NSS 8086RL/FE
 Webmaster
 


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Update, Tuesday, Sept.3, 2013

2013-09-04 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Such wonderful news. Can you find out the name of the hotel? Maybe it is a 
chain I have some points with. 

Sheryl

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On Sep 4, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 From her mother:
 
 
 Mallory moved from TIRR Rehab Hospital to Touchstone Neurorecovery Center in
 Conroe Texas on Friday. It is located at 9297 Wahrenberger Rd. Conroe, TX
 77304. It is out in the country on a 26 acre lot. The place has different
 houses for the people at different levels of brain damage. Mallory is
 currently in Churchill but will probably be moved to Cornerstone to have
 more independent living. They will make them plan their own meals and plan
 the ingredients needed. This ought to be a first for Mal. 
 
 The place was beautiful and will be again but they are doing construction
 now, so a lot of the pretty places are torn up. We like it though since it
 is more like home. We (Steve, Caleb and I) walked out of the building the
 other day and heard bugs. It hit me that I hadn't heard that roar of bugs at
 nighttime in 7 weeks. Apparently, Houston has no bugs. It also smelled like
 camping because the place has a lot of pine trees. 
 
 The ride out there is great, no real traffic. I am staying a hotel that
 gives a discount for Touchstone. It is too far to commute from Mallory's
 apartment. When we leave here, we can bring Mal home to Avoyelles Parish for
 a couple of weeks before she needs to see her neurologist in Houston. We are
 going to love that. If she is OK this week, I am going to go home during the
 week next week to get everything clean and ready for her to come home. You
 can't visit her until 4 p.m. and then until 9 but I still like to get home
 at least shortly after dark, so I can't see her like I could in TIRR. I am
 actually more worried about me leaving her. I have seen her every day for
 what will be 8 weeks and been so protective of her, I am going to be the one
 having problems leaving her. It was rough for her making the move to a new
 place but she is doing OK with it now. She wants to get out as soon as
 possible but understands she needs to get everything she can out of her stay
 here.
 
 The physical is going very well, the cognitive issues need improving. Time
 and therapy will help. We found out before leaving TIRR she has a vision
 problem, but we also need the swelling to go down before any correction is
 made to her glasses. We stopped at her apartment on the way from Houston to
 here to get more clothes. She got to see all the wonderful gifts, cards, and
 other items that people had given her and she just cried she was so touched.
 She couldn't believe how nice people have been to her. She was so
 appreciative of  everything that people have done for her. It really helped
 her emotionally making the move to a new place. We had to bring things home
 to her apartment because there was no room in some of her rooms and we
 didn't want to lose anything. We had told her and shown the list we were
 keeping but with her short term memory loss, she didn't remember plus it is
 so different actually seeing things. 
 
 All of you have been wonderful and you are really helping Mallory through
 this emotional part of the recovery. And you have helped me so much. Knowing
 people cared so much gave me strength to keep on learning lots of new
 things. 
 
 
 
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Re: [SWR] Combined Federal Campaign, 2013-2014

2013-08-28 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Can I post this on my FB?

Thanks,
Sheryl

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:41 AM, NSS Announcements n...@caves.org wrote:

 NSS is eliegible for the Combined Federal Campaign

 Donations made easy!

 We?re proud to announce that the NSS has been accepted as a recipient on
 the 2013/2014 Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) National List.  This means
 that now federal (including Military) employees all over the world may
 select the NSS, # 10808, as the recipient of their donations.

 Established in 1961, the CFC is the largest workplace charity campaign in
 the country and the only campaign authorized to solicit and collect
 contributions from federal employees in the workplace.   Through this
 effort, nearly four million federal employees and military personnel are
 able to contribute to the organizations of their choice during the annual
 charity drive, which runs from September 1 through December 15.

 What an easy way to direct your charitable giving to support caves,
 cavers, and your favorite society!

 For information on the CFC, visit http://www.cfctoday.org/
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Re: [SWR] Combined Federal Campaign, 2013-2014

2013-08-28 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Can I post this on my FB?

Thanks,
Sheryl

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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:41 AM, NSS Announcements n...@caves.org wrote:

 NSS is eliegible for the Combined Federal Campaign

 Donations made easy!

 We?re proud to announce that the NSS has been accepted as a recipient on
 the 2013/2014 Combined Federal Campaign (CFC) National List.  This means
 that now federal (including Military) employees all over the world may
 select the NSS, # 10808, as the recipient of their donations.

 Established in 1961, the CFC is the largest workplace charity campaign in
 the country and the only campaign authorized to solicit and collect
 contributions from federal employees in the workplace.   Through this
 effort, nearly four million federal employees and military personnel are
 able to contribute to the organizations of their choice during the annual
 charity drive, which runs from September 1 through December 15.

 What an easy way to direct your charitable giving to support caves,
 cavers, and your favorite society!

 For information on the CFC, visit http://www.cfctoday.org/
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Re: [Texascavers] twitter related

2013-08-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You'll be able to request the emails from the NSA. LOL  JUST KIDDING! DON'T
BEAT ME!

Sheryl


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Then just unhook yourself from them. Some of us don't use FB, Twitter,
 LinkedIn, etc. I particularly don't like the way they play fast and loose
 with your personal information. And now, the inventor of FB wants to get
 everyone in the world on FB. What kind of megalomaniac thinks that's
 necessary. Call me old fashioned, but I'd just as soon go back to the days
 when communication was a little more selective and you hand wrote or typed
 letters. What are us family historians going to do when we don't have
 handwritten manuscripts to go thru on these long winter nights (albeit,
 some partially unreadable, but that's half the fun)?

 Louise

 --
 From: wo...@justfamily.org
 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:30:41 -0600
 To: sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 CC: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] twitter related

 From looking at it today versus when they first started up, it looks more
 like the other social sites, and just the fact that its so invasive.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I agree. I never allow them access. But, they are sneaky!

 Is LinkedIn really turning into social media? I actually use it as a tool
 to get projects and connect with people in a position to get me projects. I
 do kind of cringe when a personal friend endorses me for something I KNOW
 they have no idea if I do or not, but even more importantly, they don't
 know what it is.  lol  I appreciate the sentiment. But, I do truly use it
 for project searches and business networking, so I try to keep mine geared
 to that.

 Sheryl


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
 wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 I detest how these social media sites (and that's what LinkedIn is turning
 into) is very invasive and tries to take over your contact lists on your
 computer and in your web based email.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 An apology to anyone receiving unwanted Twitter invites by email from me.

 I have no idea how Twitter works, or how to turn the fr*ckin emails off.

 Anyone new to Twitter should not let Twitter send out invitations
 automatically.

 One thing I left off of my 1st Twitter post, is that Twitter is integrated
 in some way to
 Linkedin. You have to be careful that what you post on Linkedin, so
 that it does not end up on Twitter.


 On a related note,

 I think Linkedin is a great service, but I do not know if it has helped my
 business, as
 my customers are all computer illiterate, and they do not have the spare
 time to mess with it.   They just get someone else, like their office
 staff, to manage the page.

 I haven't found any use for Linkedin related to caving, except to let my
 friends know what it is that I do for a living. Lots of cavers use it
 more than I do, so feel free to correct me on that. It seems like a
 professional way to brag about your accomplishments though.   Right ?

 David Locklear





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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver at Convention

2013-08-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck
That is wonderful! Congrats, Jill!!!

Sheryl

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On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Marvin and Lisa mlmil...@gvtc.com wrote:

 The Texas Caver won a merit award at the convention?
  
 Congratulations to Jill.


Re: [Texascavers] twitter related

2013-08-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I agree. I never allow them access. But, they are sneaky!

Is LinkedIn really turning into social media? I actually use it as a tool
to get projects and connect with people in a position to get me projects. I
do kind of cringe when a personal friend endorses me for something I KNOW
they have no idea if I do or not, but even more importantly, they don't
know what it is.  lol  I appreciate the sentiment. But, I do truly use it
for project searches and business networking, so I try to keep mine geared
to that.

Sheryl


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 I detest how these social media sites (and that's what LinkedIn is turning
 into) is very invasive and tries to take over your contact lists on your
 computer and in your web based email.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 An apology to anyone receiving unwanted Twitter invites by email from me.

 I have no idea how Twitter works, or how to turn the fr*ckin emails off.

 Anyone new to Twitter should not let Twitter send out invitations
 automatically.

 One thing I left off of my 1st Twitter post, is that Twitter is
 integrated in some way to
 Linkedin. You have to be careful that what you post on Linkedin, so
 that it does not end up on Twitter.


 On a related note,

 I think Linkedin is a great service, but I do not know if it has helped
 my business, as
 my customers are all computer illiterate, and they do not have the spare
 time to mess with it.   They just get someone else, like their office
 staff, to manage the page.

 I haven't found any use for Linkedin related to caving, except to let my
 friends know what it is that I do for a living. Lots of cavers use it
 more than I do, so feel free to correct me on that. It seems like a
 professional way to brag about your accomplishments though.   Right ?

 David Locklear





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Re: [Texascavers] twitter related

2013-08-27 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You'll be able to request the emails from the NSA. LOL  JUST KIDDING! DON'T
BEAT ME!

Sheryl


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Then just unhook yourself from them. Some of us don't use FB, Twitter,
 LinkedIn, etc. I particularly don't like the way they play fast and loose
 with your personal information. And now, the inventor of FB wants to get
 everyone in the world on FB. What kind of megalomaniac thinks that's
 necessary. Call me old fashioned, but I'd just as soon go back to the days
 when communication was a little more selective and you hand wrote or typed
 letters. What are us family historians going to do when we don't have
 handwritten manuscripts to go thru on these long winter nights (albeit,
 some partially unreadable, but that's half the fun)?

 Louise

 --
 From: wo...@justfamily.org
 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:30:41 -0600
 To: sheryl.ri...@gmail.com
 CC: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] twitter related

 From looking at it today versus when they first started up, it looks more
 like the other social sites, and just the fact that its so invasive.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I agree. I never allow them access. But, they are sneaky!

 Is LinkedIn really turning into social media? I actually use it as a tool
 to get projects and connect with people in a position to get me projects. I
 do kind of cringe when a personal friend endorses me for something I KNOW
 they have no idea if I do or not, but even more importantly, they don't
 know what it is.  lol  I appreciate the sentiment. But, I do truly use it
 for project searches and business networking, so I try to keep mine geared
 to that.

 Sheryl


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
 wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 I detest how these social media sites (and that's what LinkedIn is turning
 into) is very invasive and tries to take over your contact lists on your
 computer and in your web based email.


 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:52 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 An apology to anyone receiving unwanted Twitter invites by email from me.

 I have no idea how Twitter works, or how to turn the fr*ckin emails off.

 Anyone new to Twitter should not let Twitter send out invitations
 automatically.

 One thing I left off of my 1st Twitter post, is that Twitter is integrated
 in some way to
 Linkedin. You have to be careful that what you post on Linkedin, so
 that it does not end up on Twitter.


 On a related note,

 I think Linkedin is a great service, but I do not know if it has helped my
 business, as
 my customers are all computer illiterate, and they do not have the spare
 time to mess with it.   They just get someone else, like their office
 staff, to manage the page.

 I haven't found any use for Linkedin related to caving, except to let my
 friends know what it is that I do for a living. Lots of cavers use it
 more than I do, so feel free to correct me on that. It seems like a
 professional way to brag about your accomplishments though.   Right ?

 David Locklear





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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

2013-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You should definitely go for that! Our wood is still in tree form and the only 
splitter we have is just hard work and a good aim. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don and others,
 My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
 Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
 cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
 be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
 gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
 the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
 best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
 those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
 beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
 Fritz
 713-818-2496
 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl d...@oztotl.com wrote:
 
 Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
 natures.
 
 The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
 ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
 grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
 wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
 venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
 cabins, camping, water sports  good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
 better than that?
 
 Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
 
 Questions? Shoot me an email.
 
 P.S.
 TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
 This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

2013-08-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You should definitely go for that! Our wood is still in tree form and the only 
splitter we have is just hard work and a good aim. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt fritz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don and others,
 My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
 Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
 cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
 be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
 gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
 the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
 best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
 those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
 beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
 Fritz
 713-818-2496
 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl d...@oztotl.com wrote:
 
 Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
 natures.
 
 The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
 ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
 grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
 wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
 venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
 cabins, camping, water sports  good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
 better than that?
 
 Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
 
 Questions? Shoot me an email.
 
 P.S.
 TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
 This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
 
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[Texascavers] Inappropriate emails

2013-08-20 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear
about his visits to Mallory.  I have known David for quite some time and
while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is
not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person.  I mean, I haven't
been to see her.  He went out of his way to visit.  I have never known him
to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go after
him.  I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know
that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with
Mallory when we had a falling out.  I wonder if Mallory remembers that,
that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I
believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are
not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I
don't understand this continued bashing of David.  I wonder what a sad,
pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious
behavior.  And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and
Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this
(just judging by her posts).  It is not anyone's business other than
Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene.  I cannot
believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails
say it did and she was pissed at Locklear.  She should be focusing on her
recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness.  If she
doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this whispering
and sniggering behind his back is sickening.

I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no other
apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass.  I am very disappointed in
one of the people involved that I considered to be a friend.  I never
realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way he has been doing
in this situation.  It has brought me to the unhappy realization that he is
not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I want to call a friend.

I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her recovery,
rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate mongering.

Sheryl


Re: [Texascavers] Inappropriate emails

2013-08-20 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I cannot even imagine the mail you get.  I don't envy you.  And, again, I
apologize for my knee jerk reaction.  I'll behave myself.  :-)


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 Thank you.  On a personal level, I do agree with you, and while those on
 the hunt are friends of mine, I do disagree with them and told them to keep
 it off of the listserve.  I've had a few emails about it myself.

 Thanks for helping keep the peace, sometimes it's hard to with this many
 diverse personalities.


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Will do. My apologies.  I have also apologized to Mallory and promised I
 will not comment on this again for any reason.

 Sheryl


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
 wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 aside from my personal opinion on this matter (which doesn't matter), I
 have to stay neutral on most matters.  This thread, as well as the previous
 one on this subject, are way off topic and do not belong on the list.
  Please take it to private email.

 If someone on the list offends you, you have two choices in my eyes.
  Hit the almighty delete button, or email the person making the offense and
 talk it out in private.

 If you have thoughts or opinions on this, do not reply all, but reply to
 me directly please.

 Charles
 Texascavers.com listserver administrator


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Sheryl Rieck 
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear
 about his visits to Mallory.  I have known David for quite some time and
 while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is
 not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person.  I mean, I haven't
 been to see her.  He went out of his way to visit.  I have never known him
 to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go after
 him.  I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know
 that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with
 Mallory when we had a falling out.  I wonder if Mallory remembers that,
 that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I
 believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are
 not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I
 don't understand this continued bashing of David.  I wonder what a sad,
 pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious
 behavior.  And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and
 Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this
 (just judging by her posts).  It is not anyone's business other than
 Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene.  I cannot
 believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails
 say it did and she was pissed at Locklear.  She should be focusing on her
 recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness.  If she
 doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this whispering
 and sniggering behind his back is sickening.

 I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no
 other apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass.  I am very
 disappointed in one of the people involved that I considered to be a
 friend.  I never realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way
 he has been doing in this situation.  It has brought me to the unhappy
 realization that he is not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I
 want to call a friend.

 I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her recovery,
 rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate mongering.

 Sheryl





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 True SEM Antics, Inc.
 361-205-1458





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[Texascavers] Inappropriate emails

2013-08-20 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear
about his visits to Mallory.  I have known David for quite some time and
while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is
not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person.  I mean, I haven't
been to see her.  He went out of his way to visit.  I have never known him
to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go after
him.  I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know
that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with
Mallory when we had a falling out.  I wonder if Mallory remembers that,
that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I
believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are
not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I
don't understand this continued bashing of David.  I wonder what a sad,
pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious
behavior.  And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and
Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this
(just judging by her posts).  It is not anyone's business other than
Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene.  I cannot
believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails
say it did and she was pissed at Locklear.  She should be focusing on her
recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness.  If she
doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this whispering
and sniggering behind his back is sickening.

I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no other
apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass.  I am very disappointed in
one of the people involved that I considered to be a friend.  I never
realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way he has been doing
in this situation.  It has brought me to the unhappy realization that he is
not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I want to call a friend.

I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her recovery,
rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate mongering.

Sheryl


Re: [Texascavers] Inappropriate emails

2013-08-20 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Will do. My apologies.  I have also apologized to Mallory and promised I
will not comment on this again for any reason.

Sheryl


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 aside from my personal opinion on this matter (which doesn't matter), I
 have to stay neutral on most matters.  This thread, as well as the previous
 one on this subject, are way off topic and do not belong on the list.
  Please take it to private email.

 If someone on the list offends you, you have two choices in my eyes.  Hit
 the almighty delete button, or email the person making the offense and talk
 it out in private.

 If you have thoughts or opinions on this, do not reply all, but reply to
 me directly please.

 Charles
 Texascavers.com listserver administrator


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear
 about his visits to Mallory.  I have known David for quite some time and
 while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is
 not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person.  I mean, I haven't
 been to see her.  He went out of his way to visit.  I have never known him
 to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go after
 him.  I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know
 that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with
 Mallory when we had a falling out.  I wonder if Mallory remembers that,
 that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I
 believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are
 not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I
 don't understand this continued bashing of David.  I wonder what a sad,
 pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious
 behavior.  And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and
 Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this
 (just judging by her posts).  It is not anyone's business other than
 Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene.  I cannot
 believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails
 say it did and she was pissed at Locklear.  She should be focusing on her
 recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness.  If she
 doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this whispering
 and sniggering behind his back is sickening.

 I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no other
 apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass.  I am very disappointed in
 one of the people involved that I considered to be a friend.  I never
 realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way he has been doing
 in this situation.  It has brought me to the unhappy realization that he is
 not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I want to call a friend.

 I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her recovery,
 rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate mongering.

 Sheryl





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True SEM Antics, Inc.
361-205-1458


Re: [Texascavers] Inappropriate emails

2013-08-20 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I cannot even imagine the mail you get.  I don't envy you.  And, again, I
apologize for my knee jerk reaction.  I'll behave myself.  :-)


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 Thank you.  On a personal level, I do agree with you, and while those on
 the hunt are friends of mine, I do disagree with them and told them to keep
 it off of the listserve.  I've had a few emails about it myself.

 Thanks for helping keep the peace, sometimes it's hard to with this many
 diverse personalities.


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Will do. My apologies.  I have also apologized to Mallory and promised I
 will not comment on this again for any reason.

 Sheryl


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Charles Goldsmith 
 wo...@justfamily.orgwrote:

 aside from my personal opinion on this matter (which doesn't matter), I
 have to stay neutral on most matters.  This thread, as well as the previous
 one on this subject, are way off topic and do not belong on the list.
  Please take it to private email.

 If someone on the list offends you, you have two choices in my eyes.
  Hit the almighty delete button, or email the person making the offense and
 talk it out in private.

 If you have thoughts or opinions on this, do not reply all, but reply to
 me directly please.

 Charles
 Texascavers.com listserver administrator


 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Sheryl Rieck 
 sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am still receiving inappropriate emails from people bashing Locklear
 about his visits to Mallory.  I have known David for quite some time and
 while he may not always say or do the proper thing (who of us do?), he is
 not mean spirited and actually is a kind, caring person.  I mean, I haven't
 been to see her.  He went out of his way to visit.  I have never known him
 to say anything mean about anyone, but people sure seem to like to go after
 him.  I realize at some point he and Mallory had a falling out, but I know
 that there was reconciliation there in the same way I reconciled with
 Mallory when we had a falling out.  I wonder if Mallory remembers that,
 that we made up, or does she still think we are mad at each other? I
 believe Vickie said quite specifically that Mal's cognitive abilities are
 not functioning at full capacity and she gets a lot of things mixed up. I
 don't understand this continued bashing of David.  I wonder what a sad,
 pathetic life someone must have to wallow in this kind of vicious
 behavior.  And, I feel quite strongly that Vickie can manage her's and
 Mallory's business quite appropriately and effectively without all this
 (just judging by her posts).  It is not anyone's business other than
 Vickie's unless SHE specifically asked someone to intervene.  I cannot
 believe that the subject was even discussed with Mallory, which the emails
 say it did and she was pissed at Locklear.  She should be focusing on her
 recovery and not being incited to anger by such hatefulness.  If she
 doesn't want him to visit, her mom will take care of it and this whispering
 and sniggering behind his back is sickening.

 I find these emails I am receiving to be hateful and hurtful for no
 other apparent reason than someone wants to be an ass.  I am very
 disappointed in one of the people involved that I considered to be a
 friend.  I never realized that he gossiped and stirred up trouble the way
 he has been doing in this situation.  It has brought me to the unhappy
 realization that he is not to be trusted, and is not the kind of person I
 want to call a friend.

 I hope this will now stop and we can focus on Mallory and her recovery,
 rejoicing in how well she is doing and not all this hate mongering.

 Sheryl





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 True SEM Antics, Inc.
 361-205-1458





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Re: [Texascavers] Mallory report, 8/15/13

2013-08-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Vicki just cracks me up about Ashima!  She sounds like what my mom would sound 
like with a hamster. 

And I am so impressed with Mallory and Vicki. It is truly a winning combo. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 16, 2013, at 5:39 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From her mother:
 
 It's Sinead O'Connor-our Mallory. After three tries, the lady came today and
 shaved Mallory's head. Her hair was just so matted, there was no saving it.
 She just wanted it shaved. It looks cute. Her head is very sensitive and she
 is missing a round spot of hair on the back of her head where it had
 pressure on it for so long. I thought she had another injury there but the
 beautician said no, just a pressure spot. 
 
 They let Mal ride Tirr's new 3 wheel bike and she got to ride it outside on
 the sidewalk. She was so excited, she got her bearings and realized exactly
 where she was in the Medical Center. They were so brave with her walking,
 they left her wheelchair in her room, had her walk to the elevator, go
 downstairs,walk all around the big gym, up and down the hall bouncing a
 ball, stepping sideways, etc. She must have walked for an hour with just
 spotting her. She didn't have much assistance. 
 
 It is cool when they combine the music therapy. The girl strummed on her
 guitar and they wanted Mal to walk to the beat. The therapist speeds up her
 playing and we all walk faster, then she slows down and we all go slower.
 It's neat to realize this really works. Doing better on her cognitive tests.
 Eating real food well. Taught her how to use some machines that she will be
 using in group therapy on Saturday. I need to be there to help. 
 
 We are going on a field trip to the Aquarium on Monday. They called today
 and have her scheduled. This is part of their plan to train them to go out
 into the community. They like a family member to go, too, so I am going. I
 have not been to an aquarium in years. I used to bring the kids to the one
 in New Orleans when they were younger. So this will be interesting for me,
 too. 
 
 Ashima the hamster is so cute. She is totally buried in her bedding and I
 call her name so I can put her in her exercise ball and she burrows out. We
 have come a long way, Ashima and I. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mallory report, 8/15/13

2013-08-16 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Vicki just cracks me up about Ashima!  She sounds like what my mom would sound 
like with a hamster. 

And I am so impressed with Mallory and Vicki. It is truly a winning combo. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 16, 2013, at 5:39 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 From her mother:
 
 It's Sinead O'Connor-our Mallory. After three tries, the lady came today and
 shaved Mallory's head. Her hair was just so matted, there was no saving it.
 She just wanted it shaved. It looks cute. Her head is very sensitive and she
 is missing a round spot of hair on the back of her head where it had
 pressure on it for so long. I thought she had another injury there but the
 beautician said no, just a pressure spot. 
 
 They let Mal ride Tirr's new 3 wheel bike and she got to ride it outside on
 the sidewalk. She was so excited, she got her bearings and realized exactly
 where she was in the Medical Center. They were so brave with her walking,
 they left her wheelchair in her room, had her walk to the elevator, go
 downstairs,walk all around the big gym, up and down the hall bouncing a
 ball, stepping sideways, etc. She must have walked for an hour with just
 spotting her. She didn't have much assistance. 
 
 It is cool when they combine the music therapy. The girl strummed on her
 guitar and they wanted Mal to walk to the beat. The therapist speeds up her
 playing and we all walk faster, then she slows down and we all go slower.
 It's neat to realize this really works. Doing better on her cognitive tests.
 Eating real food well. Taught her how to use some machines that she will be
 using in group therapy on Saturday. I need to be there to help. 
 
 We are going on a field trip to the Aquarium on Monday. They called today
 and have her scheduled. This is part of their plan to train them to go out
 into the community. They like a family member to go, too, so I am going. I
 have not been to an aquarium in years. I used to bring the kids to the one
 in New Orleans when they were younger. So this will be interesting for me,
 too. 
 
 Ashima the hamster is so cute. She is totally buried in her bedding and I
 call her name so I can put her in her exercise ball and she burrows out. We
 have come a long way, Ashima and I. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] New Fellows

2013-08-12 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Congrats to both if you!
Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org 
wrote:

 The same. Bill has volunteered for many years with the vertical contests. He 
 also was a very active caver in the east and was involved in the VPI caving 
 club and the mapping of Roppel Cave in Kentucky. There  were a number of 
 folks in the east that were very glad to see him move to Texas as he won the 
 speleolympics at the Old Timers Reunion for many years. He used the gear he 
 won to support his caving habit.
  
 (Bill, this email is in response to the announcement I made on Texascavers 
 regarding your award of Fellow of the NSS.
  
 Geary
  
 From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:56 PM
 To: Cavers Texas
 Subject: [Texascavers] New Fellows
  
 Is this the Bill Stephens that was instrumental in helping with the 
 cable-ladder contest at TCR back in the mid to late 80's ?  I think that guy 
 also won lots of cable-ladder contest, and taught lots of kids and newbie 
 cavers how to properly climb a cable-ladder.


Re: [Texascavers] New Fellows

2013-08-12 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Congrats to both if you!
Sheryl

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On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org 
wrote:

 The same. Bill has volunteered for many years with the vertical contests. He 
 also was a very active caver in the east and was involved in the VPI caving 
 club and the mapping of Roppel Cave in Kentucky. There  were a number of 
 folks in the east that were very glad to see him move to Texas as he won the 
 speleolympics at the Old Timers Reunion for many years. He used the gear he 
 won to support his caving habit.
  
 (Bill, this email is in response to the announcement I made on Texascavers 
 regarding your award of Fellow of the NSS.
  
 Geary
  
 From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:56 PM
 To: Cavers Texas
 Subject: [Texascavers] New Fellows
  
 Is this the Bill Stephens that was instrumental in helping with the 
 cable-ladder contest at TCR back in the mid to late 80's ?  I think that guy 
 also won lots of cable-ladder contest, and taught lots of kids and newbie 
 cavers how to properly climb a cable-ladder.


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory and the Texas Caver

2013-08-12 Thread Sheryl Rieck
What a nice thing to do. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Jill Orr jill...@swbell.net wrote:

 I've checked with Emily and we thought it would be great for Mallory to 
 dedicate space in the Texas Caver with messages from ya'll to her.  If you 
 would like a message included in the next issue - please send by Aug 20.  A 
 few words to a couple of paragraphs. Photos and cute graphics are cool too.  
  
 Will request that you try to be unique in your wording so we don't have multi 
 repeated phrases - and don't let that discourage you please! 


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory report, 8/8/13

2013-08-09 Thread Sheryl Rieck
It is great to hear!

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 9, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Galen Falgout galenfalg...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Wow I'm crying right now after reading this. Keep up the hard work mal we 
 know u can pull thu this
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 9, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 This is such wonderful news!!!
 
 
 What a fantastic day! When asked during OT what her name was she answered:
 Mallory Mayeux. Where was she from: Longbridge, Louisiana (It's really where
 we live-suburb of Cottonport). Who was I- Miss Vickie-This is what my little
 Pre-K students call me and she calls me that sometimes especially when she
 is picking on me. Later in the day, the speech therapist asked her brother's
 name. She answered Caleb Mayeux. And it was so neat when her grandma called
 me. I had my mom talk to her on the phone. Well, mom said Hey Mallory, and
 Mal answered back Hey grandma. I was floored by all of this and so excited
 I cried. She is mouthing all of this and it comes out as a faint whisper at
 best because she has the trachea tube in and air is not passing over her
 vocal cords. They have what is called a voice little round thing on the
 end of her tube that she wears during the day to help her make sound but she
 isn't forceful enough. But it is clear to everyone what she is saying.She is
 enunciating very clearly.
 
 Also, during OT Steve told them how she had been on American Idol and sang
 I'm so excited. So the OT who is exactly Mal's age found it on her I-phone
 and her and Mal sang it and Mal even danced (moving her shoulders) while
 sitting on the exercise bench. We were so shocked. It was Mal's personality
 coming out. Everybody loved it. She was so funny because she kept reaching
 for the OT's I-phone, was able to turn it on. But the OT would say you have
 to sit for however long, then I will give it to you. We have Mal's I-phone
 there but she didn't want to listen to her music when I asked-too tired. It
 is password protected, so we will have to wait until she can open it. She
 also turned on a blinking wand, is helping to push up for sitting and
 standing, responding to commands. 
 
 Absolutely incredible! Please say those thanksgiving prayers. The doctors
 say she is moving fast. 
 
 The only sad thing is that now that she is aware (not constantly though) she
 cried four different times today. 
 Once, when her dad had to leave. He woke up this morning at 2:30 a.m. to go
 to court about the guy who hit her. We are definitely going to be the
 squeaking wheel. The prosecutor has 600 cases, but most are not nearly as
 serious as Mal's. But she calmed down when I told her dad would be back the
 next day. Later, she was being put on the tilt table where they need to test
 her blood pressure as she stands. It takes a long time and they have to
 check all along the way. When she got to the top, she started crying, her
 muscles are hurting, and she is strapped in, too. So I just hugged her and
 she wrapped her arms around me and hugged me, too. It felt so good to be
 able to hug her after not being able to touch her for so long. She calms
 down after loving and reassuring her. We are still in awe of the
 accomplishments of today. Thanks for your prayers and good wishes.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Mallory

2013-08-03 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I believe Mallory's mother has expressed the desire for visitors. It is not up 
to anyone other than her family to say who can and cannot visit. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com wrote:

 David,
 
 Will you please steer clear of the Mallory situation? I'm asking you nicely. 
 This isn't about you. Please leave her family alone. 
 
 Bill Steele 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:07 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Early Friday evening, I visited with Mallory's mom for about 2 minutes in 
 the waiting room.
 
 I didn't get to see Mallory, but another caver was there earlier.
 
 Mallory's dad will be with her this weekend.
 
 Mallory's mom is hopeful they will move her out of ICU by Monday, but just 
 to a regular room until she gets transferred to the rehab center.  That 
 could all happen sooner.
 
 Mallory is not currently on any painkillers, or exotic meds.   
 
 Since her mom is posting details, I will let
 her tell the rest of the good news
 
 David Locklear


Re: [Texascavers] Re: Mallory

2013-08-03 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I believe Mallory's mother has expressed the desire for visitors. It is not up 
to anyone other than her family to say who can and cannot visit. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com wrote:

 David,
 
 Will you please steer clear of the Mallory situation? I'm asking you nicely. 
 This isn't about you. Please leave her family alone. 
 
 Bill Steele 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:07 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Early Friday evening, I visited with Mallory's mom for about 2 minutes in 
 the waiting room.
 
 I didn't get to see Mallory, but another caver was there earlier.
 
 Mallory's dad will be with her this weekend.
 
 Mallory's mom is hopeful they will move her out of ICU by Monday, but just 
 to a regular room until she gets transferred to the rehab center.  That 
 could all happen sooner.
 
 Mallory is not currently on any painkillers, or exotic meds.   
 
 Since her mom is posting details, I will let
 her tell the rest of the good news
 
 David Locklear


Re: [Texascavers] Re: Mallory

2013-08-03 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I believe Mallory's mother has expressed the desire for visitors. It is not up 
to anyone other than her family to say who can and cannot visit. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 11:36 PM, Bill Steele speleoste...@aol.com wrote:

 David,
 
 Will you please steer clear of the Mallory situation? I'm asking you nicely. 
 This isn't about you. Please leave her family alone. 
 
 Bill Steele 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:07 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Early Friday evening, I visited with Mallory's mom for about 2 minutes in 
 the waiting room.
 
 I didn't get to see Mallory, but another caver was there earlier.
 
 Mallory's dad will be with her this weekend.
 
 Mallory's mom is hopeful they will move her out of ICU by Monday, but just 
 to a regular room until she gets transferred to the rehab center.  That 
 could all happen sooner.
 
 Mallory is not currently on any painkillers, or exotic meds.   
 
 Since her mom is posting details, I will let
 her tell the rest of the good news
 
 David Locklear


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory update, 8/1/13

2013-08-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck
That is the most wonderful news! Thank you for the update. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 From her mother, Vickie.  This is REALLY good news!!
 
 It was a great day today! Mallory actually responded to a command 3 out of
 four times and this is coming from the PT people and not just her mom. The
 PT held up a stuffed bat that was given as a gift. They told her to grab the
 bat. It takes her several second to respond but she did it. I was shocked
 This is the first time I have seen her respond to a command. Apparently, she
 did it yesterday but I wasn't there. They came out and asked me Did you see
 that? I even had to ask my sister Patti if it was real. I cried. There has
 been no way of knowing the extent of any brain damage until now and it is
 not something we have really thought about because it was too scary. But she
 is understanding and responding. A long way to go but what a wonderful
 milestone. We are thrilled. 
 
 Now they are moving fast. They sat her up on the edge of the bed for about
 45 minutes. With 3 of them, they stood her up for 2 minutes. Both PT and OT
 gave us exercises to do 2-3 times a day. They had me do them. I was so
 scared to hurt her, so I told them they had to reassure me that I can move
 her now. After not being able to touch her, talk loud or stimulate her
 because of brain pressure problems, this about face is hard to comprehend.
 The good thing was I learned the foot exercises before I saw Mal move and I
 learned them fine. Well after Mal moved, OT tried to teach the shoulder
 exercises. I couldn't quite get them down. Such roller coaster emotions.
 Luckily, Patti was there and helped me write them down and remember them.
 Tonight, she actually did the shoulder exercises and I watched. 
 
 They will come back tomorrow and teach me again. The foot and leg exercises
 we were able to do together. They are talking about moving her soon. She
 will eventually go to the Tirr Rehabilitation Center. This is the best in
 the country. this is where they brought Gabby Gifford, the politician, after
 she got shot. Everybody told me to get her in there, it was the best, even
 the guy in the bank when I was putting power of attorney on her account. I
 told the doctor that's where I wanted her three nights ago when it was first
 mentioned. He laughed, because I don't think he was expecting me to express
 my preference so emphatically, but he said OK. Memorial Hermann, her
 hospital, owns that facility. For a short time,the Tirr PT is working in
 Memorial Hermann so it was Tirr employees who worked on her yesterday and
 today. They know their stuff and said she needs to come over as soon as they
 clear up the remaining medical problems. She also tracked her eyes in a
 mirror and later when the chaplain came, she talked to Mal after talking to
 me. She told her to blink two times and Mal did. Say those prayers of
 thanksgiving. This was a glorious day. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mallory update, 8/1/13

2013-08-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck
That is the most wonderful news! Thank you for the update. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 From her mother, Vickie.  This is REALLY good news!!
 
 It was a great day today! Mallory actually responded to a command 3 out of
 four times and this is coming from the PT people and not just her mom. The
 PT held up a stuffed bat that was given as a gift. They told her to grab the
 bat. It takes her several second to respond but she did it. I was shocked
 This is the first time I have seen her respond to a command. Apparently, she
 did it yesterday but I wasn't there. They came out and asked me Did you see
 that? I even had to ask my sister Patti if it was real. I cried. There has
 been no way of knowing the extent of any brain damage until now and it is
 not something we have really thought about because it was too scary. But she
 is understanding and responding. A long way to go but what a wonderful
 milestone. We are thrilled. 
 
 Now they are moving fast. They sat her up on the edge of the bed for about
 45 minutes. With 3 of them, they stood her up for 2 minutes. Both PT and OT
 gave us exercises to do 2-3 times a day. They had me do them. I was so
 scared to hurt her, so I told them they had to reassure me that I can move
 her now. After not being able to touch her, talk loud or stimulate her
 because of brain pressure problems, this about face is hard to comprehend.
 The good thing was I learned the foot exercises before I saw Mal move and I
 learned them fine. Well after Mal moved, OT tried to teach the shoulder
 exercises. I couldn't quite get them down. Such roller coaster emotions.
 Luckily, Patti was there and helped me write them down and remember them.
 Tonight, she actually did the shoulder exercises and I watched. 
 
 They will come back tomorrow and teach me again. The foot and leg exercises
 we were able to do together. They are talking about moving her soon. She
 will eventually go to the Tirr Rehabilitation Center. This is the best in
 the country. this is where they brought Gabby Gifford, the politician, after
 she got shot. Everybody told me to get her in there, it was the best, even
 the guy in the bank when I was putting power of attorney on her account. I
 told the doctor that's where I wanted her three nights ago when it was first
 mentioned. He laughed, because I don't think he was expecting me to express
 my preference so emphatically, but he said OK. Memorial Hermann, her
 hospital, owns that facility. For a short time,the Tirr PT is working in
 Memorial Hermann so it was Tirr employees who worked on her yesterday and
 today. They know their stuff and said she needs to come over as soon as they
 clear up the remaining medical problems. She also tracked her eyes in a
 mirror and later when the chaplain came, she talked to Mal after talking to
 me. She told her to blink two times and Mal did. Say those prayers of
 thanksgiving. This was a glorious day. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Mallory update, 8/1/13

2013-08-02 Thread Sheryl Rieck
That is the most wonderful news! Thank you for the update. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Aug 2, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 From her mother, Vickie.  This is REALLY good news!!
 
 It was a great day today! Mallory actually responded to a command 3 out of
 four times and this is coming from the PT people and not just her mom. The
 PT held up a stuffed bat that was given as a gift. They told her to grab the
 bat. It takes her several second to respond but she did it. I was shocked
 This is the first time I have seen her respond to a command. Apparently, she
 did it yesterday but I wasn't there. They came out and asked me Did you see
 that? I even had to ask my sister Patti if it was real. I cried. There has
 been no way of knowing the extent of any brain damage until now and it is
 not something we have really thought about because it was too scary. But she
 is understanding and responding. A long way to go but what a wonderful
 milestone. We are thrilled. 
 
 Now they are moving fast. They sat her up on the edge of the bed for about
 45 minutes. With 3 of them, they stood her up for 2 minutes. Both PT and OT
 gave us exercises to do 2-3 times a day. They had me do them. I was so
 scared to hurt her, so I told them they had to reassure me that I can move
 her now. After not being able to touch her, talk loud or stimulate her
 because of brain pressure problems, this about face is hard to comprehend.
 The good thing was I learned the foot exercises before I saw Mal move and I
 learned them fine. Well after Mal moved, OT tried to teach the shoulder
 exercises. I couldn't quite get them down. Such roller coaster emotions.
 Luckily, Patti was there and helped me write them down and remember them.
 Tonight, she actually did the shoulder exercises and I watched. 
 
 They will come back tomorrow and teach me again. The foot and leg exercises
 we were able to do together. They are talking about moving her soon. She
 will eventually go to the Tirr Rehabilitation Center. This is the best in
 the country. this is where they brought Gabby Gifford, the politician, after
 she got shot. Everybody told me to get her in there, it was the best, even
 the guy in the bank when I was putting power of attorney on her account. I
 told the doctor that's where I wanted her three nights ago when it was first
 mentioned. He laughed, because I don't think he was expecting me to express
 my preference so emphatically, but he said OK. Memorial Hermann, her
 hospital, owns that facility. For a short time,the Tirr PT is working in
 Memorial Hermann so it was Tirr employees who worked on her yesterday and
 today. They know their stuff and said she needs to come over as soon as they
 clear up the remaining medical problems. She also tracked her eyes in a
 mirror and later when the chaplain came, she talked to Mal after talking to
 me. She told her to blink two times and Mal did. Say those prayers of
 thanksgiving. This was a glorious day. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Texascavers] ediger?

2013-07-31 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, what?  

Sheryl

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com wrote:

 What happened?  Saw the fb post but it was all fairly cryptic.
 
 Ted

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Re: [Texascavers] Gill Edigar

2013-07-31 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thank you! I'm glad he is aright.

Sheryl


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Justin Leigh Shaw jus...@oztotl.netwrote:

 Gill says he is OK.

 He was helping with a dig project in southwest Austin when he fell down a
 10ft pit.

 He self rescued from a depth of about 40ft.

 Cooperative and professional Austin Fire Department first responders took
 good care of him from there.

 Justin



Re: [Texascavers] ediger?

2013-07-31 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, what?  

Sheryl

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On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Ted Samsel t.b.sam...@gmail.com wrote:

 What happened?  Saw the fb post but it was all fairly cryptic.
 
 Ted

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Re: [Texascavers] ediger?

2013-07-31 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, what?  

Sheryl

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 What happened?  Saw the fb post but it was all fairly cryptic.
 
 Ted

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Re: [Texascavers] Gill Edigar

2013-07-31 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thank you! I'm glad he is aright.

Sheryl


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Justin Leigh Shaw jus...@oztotl.netwrote:

 Gill says he is OK.

 He was helping with a dig project in southwest Austin when he fell down a
 10ft pit.

 He self rescued from a depth of about 40ft.

 Cooperative and professional Austin Fire Department first responders took
 good care of him from there.

 Justin



Re: [Texascavers] Thursday night report

2013-07-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thanks, Emily.  We were just talking about Mal yesterday and wondering how
she is doing.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi all,

 This was posted by Harley Thornton on Mal's Facebook page, and was written
 by Mal's mother, Vickie:

 Thursday night update:




Re: [Texascavers] Thursday night report

2013-07-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thanks, Emily.  We were just talking about Mal yesterday and wondering how
she is doing.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi all,

 This was posted by Harley Thornton on Mal's Facebook page, and was written
 by Mal's mother, Vickie:

 Thursday night update:




Re: [Texascavers] Thursday night report

2013-07-26 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Thanks, Emily.  We were just talking about Mal yesterday and wondering how
she is doing.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Emily McGowan emm...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi all,

 This was posted by Harley Thornton on Mal's Facebook page, and was written
 by Mal's mother, Vickie:

 Thursday night update:




Re: [Texascavers] Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

2013-07-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Julia,

I am not sure that Mallory would want photos of her in this condition
emailed around.  Keep it and give it to her if she wants it, but sending
that out is completely inappropriate.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Here alone with Mal. Took foto. Email me if you want a copy. She is still
 in a coma and body totally controlled by machines.
 About to try aromatherapy - cave passage

 More later. Her mom just went to lunch.


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:25, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking forward to hearing from you.

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 I am at Hermann Hospital now. I have a pulmonary function test @ 12:30.
 Since I have never had one, I don't know how long it will last. I plan to
 go see Mal, sign the Grotto bear and visit w/ her family when I am done
 with the test. Given Kevin's message, I will probably be gone by the time
  y'all arrive. Staggered visits are probably best anyway.
 I am wearing my Longhorn Cavern bat shirt :)
 I also brought my candle that is cave scented that I bought at the
 Kerrville ICS. I really hope she is off the breathing tube and can have
 cave scented aromatherapy! It sure helps me when I am at work and missing
 that awesome smell.

 I will update y'all after my visit.

 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:21, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com wrote:



 I’m not sure… Em gets out of work about 3 or so.. and she’s coming by to
 pick me up.. My car is in the shop until the end of the day…

 K

 ** **

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [
 mailto:greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.comgreater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *can evren Yarman
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 What time are you planning to go? If I can arrange with my wife and kid I
 would like to come as well...

 EVREN

 ** **

 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:

   

 That is GREAT news!!!  Em and I are going to try to get over there later
 today.. if possible J

 K

  

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *caverarch
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:37 PM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  



 

  

  

 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM

 *Subject:* RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  

 Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when
 we left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go
 slow because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra
 slow with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re
 very slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They
 only drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they
 rese archers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was
 too high. 

  

 Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her friend
 from college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol audition.
 He sings great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event, and they
 were talking about having a ten-year anniversary audition.

  

 Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering
 gifts of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater
 Houston Grotto (Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed
 piggy bank.

  

 I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s
 apartment in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.

  

 Vickie

  



 

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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

2013-07-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You absolutely did not intend to be insensitive and thanks for you
sensitivity.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Agreed. Didn't intend to be insensitive!


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:57, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 I agree. Keep it for her eyes only please.

 Maybe once she comes around we can ask her permission to publish on
 TexasCavers. But keep it private for now.



 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 **


 Julia,

 I am not sure that Mallory would want photos of her in this condition
 emailed around.  Keep it and give it to her if she wants it, but sending
 that out is completely inappropriate.

 Sheryl


 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Here alone with Mal. Took foto. Email me if you want a copy. She is
 still in a coma and body totally controlled by machines.
 About to try aromatherapy - cave passage

 More later. Her mom just went to lunch.


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:25, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking forward to hearing from you.

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 I am at Hermann Hospital now. I have a pulmonary function test @ 12:30.
 Since I have never had one, I don't know how long it will last. I plan to
 go see Mal, sign the Grotto bear and visit w/ her family when I am done
 with the test. Given Kevin's message, I will probably be gone by the time
  y'all arrive. Staggered visits are probably best anyway.
 I am wearing my Longhorn Cavern bat shirt :)
 I also brought my candle that is cave scented that I bought at the
 Kerrville ICS. I really hope she is off the breathing tube and can have
 cave scented aromatherapy! It sure helps me when I am at work and missing
 that awesome smell.

 I will update y'all after my visit.

 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:21, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:



 I’m not sure… Em gets out of work about 3 or so.. and she’s coming by to
 pick me up.. My car is in the shop until the end of the day…

 K

 ** **

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [
 mailto:greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.comgreater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *can evren Yarman
 *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:15 AM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com
 *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)*
 ***

 ** **




 

 What time are you planning to go? If I can arrange with my wife and kid
 I would like to come as well...

 EVREN

 ** **

 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:

   

 That is GREAT news!!!  Em and I are going to try to get over there later
 today.. if possible J

 K

  

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *caverarch
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:37 PM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com;
 Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  



 

  

  

 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM

 *Subject:* RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  

 Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when
 we left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go
 slow because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra
 slow with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re
 very slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They
 only drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they
 rese archers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was
 too high. 

  

 Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her
 friend from college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol
 audition. He sings great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event,
 and they were talking about having a ten-year anniversary audition.

  

 Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering
 gifts of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater
 Houston Grotto (Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed
 piggy bank.

  

 I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s
 apartment in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.

  

 Vickie

  



 

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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

2013-07-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Julia,

I am not sure that Mallory would want photos of her in this condition
emailed around.  Keep it and give it to her if she wants it, but sending
that out is completely inappropriate.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Here alone with Mal. Took foto. Email me if you want a copy. She is still
 in a coma and body totally controlled by machines.
 About to try aromatherapy - cave passage

 More later. Her mom just went to lunch.


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:25, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking forward to hearing from you.

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 I am at Hermann Hospital now. I have a pulmonary function test @ 12:30.
 Since I have never had one, I don't know how long it will last. I plan to
 go see Mal, sign the Grotto bear and visit w/ her family when I am done
 with the test. Given Kevin's message, I will probably be gone by the time
  y'all arrive. Staggered visits are probably best anyway.
 I am wearing my Longhorn Cavern bat shirt :)
 I also brought my candle that is cave scented that I bought at the
 Kerrville ICS. I really hope she is off the breathing tube and can have
 cave scented aromatherapy! It sure helps me when I am at work and missing
 that awesome smell.

 I will update y'all after my visit.

 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:21, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com wrote:



 I’m not sure… Em gets out of work about 3 or so.. and she’s coming by to
 pick me up.. My car is in the shop until the end of the day…

 K

 ** **

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [
 mailto:greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.comgreater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *can evren Yarman
 *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:15 AM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com
 *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)***
 *

 ** **




 

 What time are you planning to go? If I can arrange with my wife and kid I
 would like to come as well...

 EVREN

 ** **

 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:

   

 That is GREAT news!!!  Em and I are going to try to get over there later
 today.. if possible J

 K

  

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *caverarch
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:37 PM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  



 

  

  

 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM

 *Subject:* RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  

 Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when
 we left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go
 slow because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra
 slow with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re
 very slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They
 only drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they
 rese archers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was
 too high. 

  

 Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her friend
 from college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol audition.
 He sings great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event, and they
 were talking about having a ten-year anniversary audition.

  

 Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering
 gifts of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater
 Houston Grotto (Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed
 piggy bank.

  

 I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s
 apartment in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.

  

 Vickie

  



 

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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

2013-07-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
You absolutely did not intend to be insensitive and thanks for you
sensitivity.

Sheryl


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Agreed. Didn't intend to be insensitive!


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:57, Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca wrote:

 I agree. Keep it for her eyes only please.

 Maybe once she comes around we can ask her permission to publish on
 TexasCavers. But keep it private for now.



 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.comwrote:

 **


 Julia,

 I am not sure that Mallory would want photos of her in this condition
 emailed around.  Keep it and give it to her if she wants it, but sending
 that out is completely inappropriate.

 Sheryl


 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 Here alone with Mal. Took foto. Email me if you want a copy. She is
 still in a coma and body totally controlled by machines.
 About to try aromatherapy - cave passage

 More later. Her mom just went to lunch.


 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 13:25, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking forward to hearing from you.

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote:

 I am at Hermann Hospital now. I have a pulmonary function test @ 12:30.
 Since I have never had one, I don't know how long it will last. I plan to
 go see Mal, sign the Grotto bear and visit w/ her family when I am done
 with the test. Given Kevin's message, I will probably be gone by the time
  y'all arrive. Staggered visits are probably best anyway.
 I am wearing my Longhorn Cavern bat shirt :)
 I also brought my candle that is cave scented that I bought at the
 Kerrville ICS. I really hope she is off the breathing tube and can have
 cave scented aromatherapy! It sure helps me when I am at work and missing
 that awesome smell.

 I will update y'all after my visit.

 - from julia's cell

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:21, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:



 I’m not sure… Em gets out of work about 3 or so.. and she’s coming by to
 pick me up.. My car is in the shop until the end of the day…

 K

 ** **

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [
 mailto:greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.comgreater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com]
 *On Behalf Of *can evren Yarman
 *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 11:15 AM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com
 *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)*
 ***

 ** **




 

 What time are you planning to go? If I can arrange with my wife and kid
 I would like to come as well...

 EVREN

 ** **

 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Kevin McGowan ke...@kevinmcgowan.com
 wrote:

   

 That is GREAT news!!!  Em and I are going to try to get over there later
 today.. if possible J

 K

  

 *From:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *caverarch
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:37 PM
 *To:* greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com;
 Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* [greater_houston_grotto] Fwd: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  



 

  

  

 *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:39 PM

 *Subject:* RE: Mallory updates (Thursday)

  

 Good Stable day. Started warming her today. She was at 93.3 degrees when
 we left at 9 p.m (up from 91.4 for the past three days). They have to go
 slow because problems can occur if you go too fast, so they are going extra
 slow with Mal. They are keeping her paralyzed because this works. They’re
 very slowly easing her off the drugs they’re using to keep her stable. They
 only drained her brain fluids once (just 7cc’s), and this was just so they
 rese archers could get a sample – not because her brain pressure (ICP) was
 too high. 

  

 Mal’s friend Jamie Ducote drove in today from Avoyelles. He is her
 friend from college that got her to go to Houston for the American Idol
 audition. He sings great. Mal can’t. It has been 10 years since that event,
 and they were talking about having a ten-year anniversary audition.

  

 Three cavers came by today (Roger Moore, Lyndon, and Grayson) delivering
 gifts of food, a card, and a get-well-soon bear signed by the Greater
 Houston Grotto (Houston caving club). Yesterday, they brought a signed
 piggy bank.

  

 I’m a good mom. I took Mal’s hamster out and let it run around Mal’s
 apartment in its ball – but I used a paper towel to put it there.

  

 Vickie

  



 

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Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux

2013-07-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I have been thinking of Mallory all day. Thanks for the updates. I am praying 
for her and her family. This must be a horribly difficult time for them and I 
am happy to see their wishes respected. It is kind of them to keep us informed. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Jul 15, 2013, at 1:15 PM, caverarch cavera...@aol.com wrote:

 New information regarding Mallory.
 
 Roger 
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux
 To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
 
 
 Caleb called. She has facial fractures, a broken nose and continued brain 
 swelling. At least two more days in a coma, but the brain swelling has to 
 stop before they awaken her.  No broken bones. They won't have an update 
 until she comes out of the induced coma. 
 Feel free to post this on CaveTex and GHG - I can't do either from my phone 
 for some unexplained reason.
 
 
 - from julia's cell
 


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux

2013-07-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I have been thinking of Mallory all day. Thanks for the updates. I am praying 
for her and her family. This must be a horribly difficult time for them and I 
am happy to see their wishes respected. It is kind of them to keep us informed. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Jul 15, 2013, at 1:15 PM, caverarch cavera...@aol.com wrote:

 New information regarding Mallory.
 
 Roger 
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux
 To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
 
 
 Caleb called. She has facial fractures, a broken nose and continued brain 
 swelling. At least two more days in a coma, but the brain swelling has to 
 stop before they awaken her.  No broken bones. They won't have an update 
 until she comes out of the induced coma. 
 Feel free to post this on CaveTex and GHG - I can't do either from my phone 
 for some unexplained reason.
 
 
 - from julia's cell
 


Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux

2013-07-15 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I have been thinking of Mallory all day. Thanks for the updates. I am praying 
for her and her family. This must be a horribly difficult time for them and I 
am happy to see their wishes respected. It is kind of them to keep us informed. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. 

On Jul 15, 2013, at 1:15 PM, caverarch cavera...@aol.com wrote:

 New information regarding Mallory.
 
 Roger 
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Julia Germany germa...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Mallory Mayeaux
 To: Lyndon Tiu l...@alumni.sfu.ca
 
 
 Caleb called. She has facial fractures, a broken nose and continued brain 
 swelling. At least two more days in a coma, but the brain swelling has to 
 stop before they awaken her.  No broken bones. They won't have an update 
 until she comes out of the induced coma. 
 Feel free to post this on CaveTex and GHG - I can't do either from my phone 
 for some unexplained reason.
 
 
 - from julia's cell
 


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