Re: [NMCAVER] Lava River Cave graffiti removal

2010-09-19 Thread Scott Nicolay
Dear Ray,

Since I added my own wiseass comment to Lee's original posting, I will
comment here that I meant no disparagement to those cavers who worked on
this important resto effort (or to any cavers on any resto project), or to
the project itself. Rich Bohman is a good friend and a great caver, and I am
sure that this resto effort was impeccable in every way. My comment was only
directed at the reporter's lack of understanding that caves/lava tubes are
located underground, and that was precisely the point to which I thought Lee
was trying to draw our attention. I never thought Lee was knocking down the
actual resto project, and I had no intention of doing so either.

I do appreciate you sharing more info about the project; it sounds like a
thorough and well-executed effort. More of that info should have been in the
original article.

If I offended you or any other cavers by my comment, I ask your forgiveness.

Let he who is without sarcasm cast the first broken speleothem...

Best,

Scott

-Original Message-
From: nmcaver-boun...@caver.net [mailto:nmcaver-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf
Of Lee H. Skinner
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 10:59 PM
To: Ray Keeler
Cc: texascavers list; nmcaver list; Internal Communications of the Sandia
Grotto
Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Lava River Cave graffiti removal

  Ray,

The cave is popular with tourists and was the site of an underground 
lava tube.

I greatly applaud your work.   It was quite an effort and very 
commendable. But I still think the wording of the last sentence of the 
article was funny.  Sorry you're offended but since I still feel the 
wording is humorous, I can't retract or apologize for what I said or the 
way I said it.

Regards,
Lee


Ray Keeler said:

I must admit that I am a bit offended by Lee's comment below.

There has been substantial graffiti placed in Lava River Cave over this 
last summer.  20 of us participated in the graffiti removal effort using 
the PCCP sandblasting equipment.  Friday we laid 3900 feet of high 
pressure hose and tested it.  Saturday we started from the back, where 
the tagging was the worst, and worked towards the entrance.  Sunday we 
started before 9AM and cut off sandblasting at noon and extracted 
equipment.  Rich Bohman coordinated underground activities and did a 
great job.

The Coconino NF invested substantial resources, including law 
enforcement, administrative, signage, and two on-site rangers to help.

We were able to clean all of the tags in the cave with the exception of 
two closest to the entrance, when we ran out of time.

thanks,

Ray



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Re: [NMCAVER] Lava River Cave graffiti removal

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Nicolay
ROTFLMFAO, Lee!

I'll bet if they had a surface lava tube out there, that reporter would
walk right by it...

Scott


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