Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Pete Lindsley
Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
[http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
 also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor 
and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we do 
know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great job 
guys!

 - Pete

On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:

Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the _other_ 
Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other places, 
but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico recently).

They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area Underwater 
Explorers in Monterey.

Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.

- Fofo


On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
> 

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Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Pete Lindsley
(Corrected my e-mail address for CaveTex)

On May 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:

Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
[http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
 also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor 
and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we do 
know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great job 
guys!

 - Pete

On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:

Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the _other_ 
Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other places, 
but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico recently).

They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area Underwater 
Explorers in Monterey.

Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.

- Fofo


On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
> 

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Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Pete Lindsley
(Sorry, 2nd try to get my mail program working with correct caver e-mail 
address...)

On May 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:

Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
[http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
 also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor 
and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we do 
know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great job 
guys!

 - Pete

On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:

Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the _other_ 
Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other places, 
but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico recently).

They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area Underwater 
Explorers in Monterey.

Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.

- Fofo


On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
> 

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Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Pete Lindsley
(Sorry again. Just rebooted my mail program which was grabbing the wrong caver 
e-mail address. It worked on a test case, so I expect it to work this time.)

On May 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:

Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
[http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
 also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor 
and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we do 
know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great job 
guys!

 - Pete

On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:

Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the _other_ 
Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other places, 
but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico recently).

They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area Underwater 
Explorers in Monterey.

Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.

- Fofo


On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
> 

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[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
Anyone that would like a copy of the original article and supplementary 
materials from Science magazine can contact me off-list. The total size of both 
documents is about 12.5 Mb, so if you have problems receiving an email message 
that size, let me know and I will tell you how to download the files outside of 
your email program.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)







On May 16, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:

> Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
> information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
> Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
> local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
> [http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
>  also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
> collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with Victor 
> and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, YES, we 
> do know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting project. Great 
> job guys!
>
>  - Pete
>
> On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:
>
> Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
> drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the 
> _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and other 
> places, but because of their research they've been diving a lot in Mexico 
> recently).
>
> They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area 
> Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
>
> Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
>
> - Fofo
>
>
> On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
>> Video and story from today's WSJ.
>> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
>> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Charles Goldsmith
need me to host it on a webserver for you?

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Diana Tomchick
 wrote:
> Anyone that would like a copy of the original article and supplementary 
> materials from Science magazine can contact me off-list. The total size of 
> both documents is about 12.5 Mb, so if you have problems receiving an email 
> message that size, let me know and I will tell you how to download the files 
> outside of your email program.
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biophysics
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214A
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 16, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:
>
>> Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with additional 
>> information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. They ran Dr. 
>> Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice surprise to see a 
>> local caver appear on the front page this morning. The web link 
>> [http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
>>  also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
>> collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with 
>> Victor and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, 
>> YES, we do know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting 
>> project. Great job guys!
>>
>>  - Pete
>>
>> On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:
>>
>> Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
>> drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the 
>> _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and 
>> other places, but because of their research they've been diving a lot in 
>> Mexico recently).
>>
>> They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area 
>> Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
>>
>> Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
>>
>> - Fofo
>>
>>
>> On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
>>> Video and story from today's WSJ.
>>> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
>>> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
>>>
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
No, because technically I shouldn't be just giving it away for free, as Science 
does not do that. Only a few people ever ask to see these things, so it's not a 
problem.

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biophysics
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. 
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)







On May 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> need me to host it on a webserver for you?
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Diana Tomchick
>  wrote:
>> Anyone that would like a copy of the original article and supplementary 
>> materials from Science magazine can contact me off-list. The total size of 
>> both documents is about 12.5 Mb, so if you have problems receiving an email 
>> message that size, let me know and I will tell you how to download the files 
>> outside of your email program.
>> 
>> Diana
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> Diana R. Tomchick
>> Professor
>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>> Department of Biophysics
>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>> Rm. ND10.214A
>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with 
>>> additional information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. 
>>> They ran Dr. Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice 
>>> surprise to see a local caver appear on the front page this morning. The 
>>> web link 
>>> [http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
>>>  also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
>>> collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with 
>>> Victor and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) So, 
>>> YES, we do know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting 
>>> project. Great job guys!
>>> 
>>> - Pete
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
>>> drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the 
>>> _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and 
>>> other places, but because of their research they've been diving a lot in 
>>> Mexico recently).
>>> 
>>> They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area 
>>> Underwater Explorers in Monterey.
>>> 
>>> Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.
>>> 
>>> - Fofo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
 Video and story from today's WSJ.
 Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
 Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
 
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] New World's Oldest Skeleton Found in the Yucatan

2014-05-16 Thread Charles Goldsmith
oh, gotcha

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Diana Tomchick
 wrote:
> No, because technically I shouldn't be just giving it away for free, as 
> Science does not do that. Only a few people ever ask to see these things, so 
> it's not a problem.
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biophysics
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214A
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>> need me to host it on a webserver for you?
>>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Diana Tomchick
>>  wrote:
>>> Anyone that would like a copy of the original article and supplementary 
>>> materials from Science magazine can contact me off-list. The total size of 
>>> both documents is about 12.5 Mb, so if you have problems receiving an email 
>>> message that size, let me know and I will tell you how to download the 
>>> files outside of your email program.
>>>
>>> Diana
>>>
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> Diana R. Tomchick
>>> Professor
>>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>>> Department of Biophysics
>>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>>> Rm. ND10.214A
>>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 16, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Pete Lindsley wrote:
>>>
 Here's another link from this morning's Albuquerque Journal, with 
 additional information from UNM which was involved in the dating process. 
 They ran Dr. Victor Polyak's photo on the front page, so it was a nice 
 surprise to see a local caver appear on the front page this morning. The 
 web link 
 [http://www.abqjournal.com/401125/news/dna-connects-first-americans-native-americans.html]
  also has Professor Yemene Asmerom's  picture in the article's photo 
 collection. (The Fort Stanton Cave Study Project has been working with 
 Victor and Yemene in dating some of the deposits in Fort Stanton Cave.) 
 So, YES, we do know some of the cavers involved in this most interesting 
 project. Great job guys!

 - Pete

 On May 16, 2014, at 8:28 AM, Fofo wrote:

 Yup, Beto Nava (yellow drysuit in the video/pictures) and Susan Bird (blue 
 drysuit in the video/pictures) are very active divers in Monterey (the 
 _other_ Monterey, the one in California) and cave divers in Mexico (and 
 other places, but because of their research they've been diving a lot in 
 Mexico recently).

 They're both very nice and part (or the core group) of the Bay Area 
 Underwater Explorers in Monterey.

 Beto is in Mexico City today for a conference on this finding.

 - Fofo


 On 16/05/14 06:16, Preston Forsythe wrote:
> Video and story from today's WSJ.
> Do we know any of the cavers-cave divers?
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303908804579563971867031520.html?mod=djemITP_h
> Preston in Muhlenberg Co., KY
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