Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-13 Thread Geary Schindel
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to 
the press, only what the press said you said.

Misquotes are a common part of the job.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA

Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater 
Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. 
A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did 
a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with.

Geary Schindel

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Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: DONALD G.DAVIS
Cc: Southwestern Region
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper..

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have 
 been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off 
 camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 
 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not 
 depth; but, she didn't take it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-13 Thread Geary Schindel
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to 
the press, only what the press said you said.

Misquotes are a common part of the job.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA

Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater 
Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. 
A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did 
a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with.

Geary Schindel

-Original Message-
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: DONALD G.DAVIS
Cc: Southwestern Region
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper..

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have 
 been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off 
 camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 
 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not 
 depth; but, she didn't take it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
   --Donald
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Pretty good story overall.  Thanks for sharing.


 
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 From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
To: 'Peter Jones' pjca...@gwi.net; DONALD G.DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net 
Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story
 

As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to 
the press, only what the press said you said.

Misquotes are a common part of the job.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA

Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater 
Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. 
A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did 
a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with.

Geary Schindel

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From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: DONALD G.DAVIS
Cc: Southwestern Region
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper..

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have 
 been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off 
 camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 
 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not 
 depth; but, she didn't take it.
 
 William
 
     Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-13 Thread Geary Schindel
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to 
the press, only what the press said you said.

Misquotes are a common part of the job.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA

Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater 
Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. 
A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did 
a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with.

Geary Schindel

-Original Message-
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: DONALD G.DAVIS
Cc: Southwestern Region
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper..

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have 
 been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off 
 camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 
 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not 
 depth; but, she didn't take it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
   --Donald
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Gluesenkamp
Pretty good story overall.  Thanks for sharing.


 
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Driftwood, Texas 78619
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 From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org
To: 'Peter Jones' pjca...@gwi.net; DONALD G.DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net 
Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story
 

As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to 
the press, only what the press said you said.

Misquotes are a common part of the job.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA

Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater 
Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. 
A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did 
a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with.

Geary Schindel

-Original Message-
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM
To: DONALD G.DAVIS
Cc: Southwestern Region
Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper..

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have 
 been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off 
 camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 
 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not 
 depth; but, she didn't take it.
 
 William
 
     Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread wnsliaison
I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always  
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.


I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  
deep is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  
depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread William Tucker
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.


William

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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:20 AM
To: Peter Jones
Cc: Bill Bentley ; s...@caver.net ; Texascavers Mailing List ; PBSS Mailing 
List

Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.

I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  deep 
is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.

William

Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper……

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
 confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
 gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
 sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
 it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is 
outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth…..

Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:

 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!
  
 http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread wnsliaison
I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always  
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.


I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  
deep is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  
depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread William Tucker
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.


William

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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:20 AM
To: Peter Jones
Cc: Bill Bentley ; s...@caver.net ; Texascavers Mailing List ; PBSS Mailing 
List

Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.

I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  deep 
is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.

William

Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper……

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
 confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
 gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
 sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
 it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is 
outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth…..

Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:

 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!
  
 http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread wnsliaison
I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always  
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.


I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  
deep is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  
depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread William Tucker
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.


William

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List

Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story

I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always
appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say.

I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before.

Peter Y.

Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net:

Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet  deep 
is outstanding.  I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that  depth?..


Peter



On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote:


15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW!

http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
it.

William

Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
--Donald
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Re: [SWR] Local News Story

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Jones
As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of 
hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper……

Peter




On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been 
 confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I 
 gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the 
 sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take 
 it.
 
 William
 
   Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet 
 deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000.
   --Donald
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