Re: [SWR] Local News Story
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to the press, only what the press said you said. Misquotes are a common part of the job. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with. Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM To: DONALD G.DAVIS Cc: Southwestern Region Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Local News Story
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to the press, only what the press said you said. Misquotes are a common part of the job. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with. Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM To: DONALD G.DAVIS Cc: Southwestern Region Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Pretty good story overall. Thanks for sharing. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: 'Peter Jones' pjca...@gwi.net; DONALD G.DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to the press, only what the press said you said. Misquotes are a common part of the job. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with. Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM To: DONALD G.DAVIS Cc: Southwestern Region Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Local News Story
As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to the press, only what the press said you said. Misquotes are a common part of the job. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with. Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM To: DONALD G.DAVIS Cc: Southwestern Region Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Local News Story
Pretty good story overall. Thanks for sharing. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Geary Schindel gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: 'Peter Jones' pjca...@gwi.net; DONALD G.DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As my boss once told me I'll never hold you accountable for what you said to the press, only what the press said you said. Misquotes are a common part of the job. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzq2vr_scientists-study-aquifer-contamination_news#.UY01JbXU_zA Here is a little piece on tracer testing we did for the National Groundwater Association - groundwater summit that was held here in San Antonio a week ago. A local TV station wanted to do a short piece on the aquifer. They actually did a pretty good job considering WHO they had to work with. Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:35 AM To: DONALD G.DAVIS Cc: Southwestern Region Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Local News Story
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William -Original Message- From: wnsliai...@caves.org Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:20 AM To: Peter Jones Cc: Bill Bentley ; s...@caver.net ; Texascavers Mailing List ; PBSS Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth….. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Local News Story
I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William -Original Message- From: wnsliai...@caves.org Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:20 AM To: Peter Jones Cc: Bill Bentley ; s...@caver.net ; Texascavers Mailing List ; PBSS Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth….. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William -Original Message- From: wnsliai...@caves.org Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 9:20 AM To: Peter Jones Cc: Bill Bentley ; s...@caver.net ; Texascavers Mailing List ; PBSS Mailing List Subject: Re: [SWR] Local News Story I think that's 15,000 into the cave - reporters don't always appreciate how literally cavers interpret what they say. I've heard rumors Hazel has been on the doorstep to Hell before. Peter Y. Quoting Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net: Yeah, I knew Hazel was a hardcore Lech caver, but 15 thousand feet deep is outstanding. I'd say she's on the doorstep to Hell at that depth?.. Peter On May 9, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Bill Bentley wrote: 15,000' feet down in the cave? WOW! http://www.newswest9.com/category/163304/video-landing-page?clipId=topVideoCatNo=121765topVideoCatNoB=83259topVideoCatNoC=182033topVideoCatNoD=169582topVideoCatNoE=169586clipId=8859078autostart=true ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological Society (802) 272-3802 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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As I said to Peter Youngbaer, who commented that Hazel had been at the gates of hell in the past, perhaps she's the Gatekeeper…… Peter On May 9, 2013, at 11:07 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: I asked the reporter about it and she responded that she may have been confused with an aquifer that Hazel was also talking about off camera. I gave the reporter the chance to say it was like 20,000 leagues under the sea where it was referring to distance and not depth; but, she didn't take it. William Maybe she was told that the top of the water table was 1,500 feet deep in Lech., and remembered that as 15,000. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET