[SWR] True cavers
You will recall that I never claimed to be a true caver. Dwight - Original Message - From: Harvey DuChene hrduch...@gmail.com To: Jim Evatt nmca...@comcast.net Cc: dirt...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:46:53 AM Subject: RE: [SWR] Big Room Jim, You are easily shocked, I guess. I was young and naïve when I heard the DirtDoc say that “No True Caver Wears Kneepads.” This impressed me greatly, until I found out that some people, who shall remain nameless, sewed kneepads into the INSIDE of their coverall pant legs. You can imagine how devastated I was to learn this truth. Caving was never the same for me after that discovery. I did not choose to comment because the memory of my humiliation is too painful. You brought it up, scraping open the old wound. I may never recover… . Katy contacted me several months ago after seeing the reprint of the elegy I wrote for Tom Meador. She and her husband came to Lake City and visited us. What a surprise and a great treat. I always wore a brain bucket when riding my Red Dragon named Harley and assuming my alter identity as “The Daring but Resourceless Masked Rider of the Plains.” HD From: Jim Evatt [mailto:nmca...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:10 AM To: Harvey DuChene Subject: Re: [SWR] Big Room Harv, I’m SHOCKED you did not comment on the statement that “No true cavers wear kneepads.” Kind of like Harley etc. riders who refuse to wear headpads (a/k/a brain buckets). Shows you what’s really important to who, eh? ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] True cavers
dirt...@comcast.net wrote: You will recall that I never claimed to be a true caver.=20 Dwight=20 - Original Message - From: Harvey DuChene hrduch...@gmail.com=20 To: Jim Evatt nmca...@comcast.net=20 Cc: dirt...@comcast.net=20 Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:46:53 AM=20 Subject: RE: [SWR] Big Room=20 Jim,=20 You are easily shocked, I guess.=20 I was young and na=C3=AFve when I heard the DirtDoc say that =E2=80=9CNo Tr= ue Caver Wears Kneepads.=E2=80=9D This impressed me greatly, until I found = out that some people, who shall remain nameless, sewed kneepads into the IN= SIDE of their coverall pant legs. You can imagine how devastated I was to l= earn this truth. Caving was never the same for me after that discovery. I d= id not choose to comment because the memory of my humiliation is too painfu= l. You brought it up, scraping open the old wound. I may never recover=E2= =80=A6 .=20 I must be a pretty true caver. For much of my caving career, I've never worn kneepads. I have natural springy cartilage pads in my knees, and routine crawling just doesn't hurt much. But there have been exceptions. When we discovered a certain upper-level part of Fixin' to Die Cave, Colorado, it was necessary to chimney up to it using pressure opposition against crusts of sharp little calcite spar crystals. That hurt, and for my next visits, I put inner-tube rubber inside my coveralls. Then there came the crystal-coated knobs of the Crawl from Hell in Snowy River. It still didn't hurt my knees internally, but I found that if I didn't use external pads, my coverall cloth and then my skin would simply wear through from the abrasion. Otherwise, I still don't often use them. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] True cavers
Donald, I may have been with you on that trip in 1969. That may also have been the trip when you made the major bypass discovery in Groaning (with me dragged along with you) in the ever so early days of its exploration. It's always a pleasure to read about your caving travails when it is presented in your classic Donald response of a purely factual nature. I wish I had had your naturally springy cartilage when I crawled out of Lech for two miles with a broken ankle…. Peter I must be a pretty true caver. For much of my caving career, I've never worn kneepads. I have natural springy cartilage pads in my knees, and routine crawling just doesn't hurt much. But there have been exceptions. When we discovered a certain upper-level part of Fixin' to Die Cave, Colorado, it was necessary to chimney up to it using pressure opposition against crusts of sharp little calcite spar crystals. That hurt, and for my next visits, I put inner-tube rubber inside my coveralls. Then there came the crystal-coated knobs of the Crawl from Hell in Snowy River. It still didn't hurt my knees internally, but I found that if I didn't use external pads, my coverall cloth and then my skin would simply wear through from the abrasion. Otherwise, I still don't often use them. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
