Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue
Hi, About 5 years ago, I acquired a bad skin infection from Pseudomonas after a trip into a Texas water cave. This is an opportunistic skin pathogen that results from mild skin abrasions and prolonged exposure to infected water--colloquially it's known as "hot tub rash". I was wearing an ill-fitting, old diving wet suit that I subsequently replaced. https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/swimming/swimmers/rwi/rashes.html Despite the seemingly innocuous name of the affliction, it was so painful that I was unable to wear pants for two days, and the lymph nodes in my groin were also swollen. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816 diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu (214) 645-6383 (phone) (214) 645-6353 (fax) From: Texascavers on behalf of Geary Schindel Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:09 PM To: Lee H. Skinner; New Mexico Cavers; Texas Cavers; Sandia Grotto Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue Their Dr./commentator called me this morning a few minutes before I had to run into a meeting and wanted to talk about potential diseases the kids may be exposed to in the cave. I talked a little about Histo which he was a aware of but I didn't think that was likely unless it was a significant bat cave. I told him I had never heard of it called cave disease as most people aren't around bat caves and they are much more likely to get it from birds, especially if they are commercially raising birds. He rattled off some other bacteria which I had never heard. I did tell him about E coli O157 H7, crypto, and giardia which are not uncommon in water and how storm water is commonly very high in bacteria. He also asked about rabies which I also told him was unlikely unless they were eating bats. I think he was trying to put a twist on it and I have a feeling it isn't going to go well. Geary -Original Message- From: swrcav...@googlegroups.com [mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 8:34 PM To: New Mexico Cavers ; Texas Cavers ; Sandia Grotto Subject: [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue ABC will air a special edition of 20/20 tomorrow evening (Tuesday July 10, 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm Mountain Daylight Time) on the Thailand cave rescue. As the next group of cave divers enter the cave, they are hopeful of bringing out all four remaining boys and their coach, Lee Skinner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/6ddf1030-00a3-b937-4f8f-0ab1118d703a%40thuntek.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers UT Southwestern Medical Center The future of medicine, today. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue
Could "cave disease" be the English translation of whatever Thai dialect might be used locally? While in English speaking countries we speak in shaded and well defined terms and Linnean hierarchies, it seems likely that, in a less technological society, everything bad associated with a cave might be generically described as "cave disease." Are all the divers and med support, etc., out? M On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Geary Schindel < gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> wrote: > Their Dr./commentator called me this morning a few minutes before I had to > run into a meeting and wanted to talk about potential diseases the kids may > be exposed to in the cave. I talked a little about Histo which he was a > aware of but I didn't think that was likely unless it was a significant bat > cave. I told him I had never heard of it called cave disease as most people > aren't around bat caves and they are much more likely to get it from birds, > especially if they are commercially raising birds. He rattled off some > other bacteria which I had never heard. I did tell him about E coli O157 > H7, crypto, and giardia which are not uncommon in water and how storm water > is commonly very high in bacteria. He also asked about rabies which I also > told him was unlikely unless they were eating bats. I think he was trying > to put a twist on it and I have a feeling it isn't going to go well. > > Geary > > -Original Message- > From: swrcav...@googlegroups.com [mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 8:34 PM > To: New Mexico Cavers ; Texas Cavers < > Texascavers@texascavers.com>; Sandia Grotto national-speleological-soci...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue > > ABC will air a special edition of 20/20 tomorrow evening (Tuesday July 10, > 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm Mountain Daylight Time) on the Thailand cave rescue. > > > As the next group of cave divers enter the cave, they are hopeful of > bringing out all four remaining boys and their coach, > > > Lee Skinner > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/swrcavers/6ddf1030-00a3-b937-4f8f-0ab1118d703a%40thuntek.net. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/swrcavers/DM6PR05MB4043DC7D0494B93DFDFAE517D45A0%40DM6PR05MB4043. > namprd05.prod.outlook.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue
Their Dr./commentator called me this morning a few minutes before I had to run into a meeting and wanted to talk about potential diseases the kids may be exposed to in the cave. I talked a little about Histo which he was a aware of but I didn't think that was likely unless it was a significant bat cave. I told him I had never heard of it called cave disease as most people aren't around bat caves and they are much more likely to get it from birds, especially if they are commercially raising birds. He rattled off some other bacteria which I had never heard. I did tell him about E coli O157 H7, crypto, and giardia which are not uncommon in water and how storm water is commonly very high in bacteria. He also asked about rabies which I also told him was unlikely unless they were eating bats. I think he was trying to put a twist on it and I have a feeling it isn't going to go well. Geary -Original Message- From: swrcav...@googlegroups.com [mailto:swrcav...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 8:34 PM To: New Mexico Cavers ; Texas Cavers ; Sandia Grotto Subject: [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue ABC will air a special edition of 20/20 tomorrow evening (Tuesday July 10, 8:00 pm - 9:00 pm Mountain Daylight Time) on the Thailand cave rescue. As the next group of cave divers enter the cave, they are hopeful of bringing out all four remaining boys and their coach, Lee Skinner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to swrcav...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/swrcavers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/6ddf1030-00a3-b937-4f8f-0ab1118d703a%40thuntek.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
