[Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave
�Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That�s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. �There's a small colony of bats in there,� said William �BT� Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. �It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,� said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. �Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,� said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. �Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,� Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it�s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. �It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,� Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he�s dubbed �Twinkie�s Cave,� named after his fianc�e�s dog. Price�s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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Those specimens belong in a museum (or in a cave), not on someone's bookshelf. Also, BT oughtta fess up that the fossils are coming from a part of the cave on his neighbor's property, not his. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, August 1, 2011 11:28:05 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave ¡Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That’s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. “There's a small colony of bats in there,” said William “BT” Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. “It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,” said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. “Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,” said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. “Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,” Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it’s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. “It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,” Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he’s dubbed “Twinkie’s Cave,” named after his fiancée’s dog. Price’s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave
�Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That�s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. �There's a small colony of bats in there,� said William �BT� Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. �It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,� said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. �Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,� said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. �Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,� Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it�s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. �It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,� Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he�s dubbed �Twinkie�s Cave,� named after his fianc�e�s dog. Price�s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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Those specimens belong in a museum (or in a cave), not on someone's bookshelf. Also, BT oughtta fess up that the fossils are coming from a part of the cave on his neighbor's property, not his. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, August 1, 2011 11:28:05 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave ¡Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That’s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. “There's a small colony of bats in there,” said William “BT” Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. “It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,” said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. “Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,” said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. “Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,” Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it’s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. “It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,” Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he’s dubbed “Twinkie’s Cave,” named after his fiancée’s dog. Price’s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave
BT and Will (the owner of the upstream entrances) have been very conscientious about taking finds to several professors at UT and have developed some good relationships with them. One fellow even took a tour of the cave recently. The truth is that the university doesn't have the funds to run a project at the cave right now. BT and Will would be more than happy to accomodate them. What has been suggested to to BT is that he maintain the collection and sometime in the near future he will get some assistance (probably unpaid) to catalogue the items, but they will stay with him (or Will) for now. Immediately after the first bones were found - which was also coincident with finding the upstream entrances - BT and Will worked out an agreement for how to deal with any finds. You know that news stories don't always give you the whole picture. Marvin Miller _ From: Andy Gluesenkamp [mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:44 AM To: Fofo; texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave Those specimens belong in a museum (or in a cave), not on someone's bookshelf. Also, BT oughtta fess up that the fossils are coming from a part of the cave on his neighbor's property, not his. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com _ From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, August 1, 2011 11:28:05 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave ¡Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-ba ckyard-125157069.html Orhttp://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. Thats because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. There's a small colony of bats in there, said William BT Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right, said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth, said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago, Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said its very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here, Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area hes dubbed Twinkies Cave, named after his fiancées dog. Prices long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com http://texascavers.com/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave
�Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That�s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. �There's a small colony of bats in there,� said William �BT� Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. �It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,� said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. �Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,� said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. �Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,� Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it�s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. �It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,� Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he�s dubbed �Twinkie�s Cave,� named after his fianc�e�s dog. Price�s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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Those specimens belong in a museum (or in a cave), not on someone's bookshelf. Also, BT oughtta fess up that the fossils are coming from a part of the cave on his neighbor's property, not his. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, August 1, 2011 11:28:05 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave ¡Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-backyard-125157069.html Or http://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. That’s because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. “There's a small colony of bats in there,” said William “BT” Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. “It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right,” said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. “Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth,” said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. “Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago,” Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said it’s very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. “It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here,” Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area he’s dubbed “Twinkie’s Cave,” named after his fiancée’s dog. Price’s long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave
BT and Will (the owner of the upstream entrances) have been very conscientious about taking finds to several professors at UT and have developed some good relationships with them. One fellow even took a tour of the cave recently. The truth is that the university doesn't have the funds to run a project at the cave right now. BT and Will would be more than happy to accomodate them. What has been suggested to to BT is that he maintain the collection and sometime in the near future he will get some assistance (probably unpaid) to catalogue the items, but they will stay with him (or Will) for now. Immediately after the first bones were found - which was also coincident with finding the upstream entrances - BT and Will worked out an agreement for how to deal with any finds. You know that news stories don't always give you the whole picture. Marvin Miller _ From: Andy Gluesenkamp [mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:44 AM To: Fofo; texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave Those specimens belong in a museum (or in a cave), not on someone's bookshelf. Also, BT oughtta fess up that the fossils are coming from a part of the cave on his neighbor's property, not his. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com _ From: Fofo gonza...@msu.edu To: texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, August 1, 2011 11:28:05 AM Subject: [Texascavers] Article on KHOU on Twinkie's Cave ¡Hola! Here's an article that I saw today about Twinkie's Cave in Comal County. http://www.khou.com/news/Local-man-makes-prehistoric-discovery-in-his-own-ba ckyard-125157069.html Orhttp://tinyurl.com/3lynqxr The text of the article is below. Take care, - Fofo -- SAN ANTONIO -- Somewhere in Comal County is a small parcel of private land full of breathtaking views. Hidden amidst the beauty is a mysterious entrance to the unknown. Inside, there is not much space, and it quickly goes from dry to wet. Thats because it's a cave full of spring-fed water. And there are plenty of creatures living inside. There's a small colony of bats in there, said William BT Price, who owns the land. Price bought the land where the hidden cave is located two years ago. Now, he's a retired banker who's become an explorer of his own backyard. The cave is at least a mile in length. Price and friends are constantly pushing the limits by going into areas where the water and ceiling are separated by inches. It can be very dangerous -- very, very dangerous -- if it's not done right, said Price. Within the unknown lies a familiar treasure from prehistoric times: fossils. Here's some pieces of mastodon teeth, said Kurt Menking, who has helped Price discover the fossils. Some of the most exotic discoveries include an almost complete skull of a Homotherium, an animal that was part of the saber-tooth tiger family. Other remains are from beasts you only hear about in movies, like 10-foot-tall, 8,000-pound sloths. Concordia University biology professor Laurence Meissner is just one of a few professionals to verify the recent discovery. Yes, they're legitimate fossils. They lived in the late Ice Age. Probably went extinct around 10 to 15 thousand years ago, Meissner said. Experts like Meissner said its very rare to find fossils in Texas, especially animals like the Homotherium found in the local cave. It just gives us a record of the past. It tells us what life used to be like 10 to 20,000 years ago and it shows there's been substantial change in the environment here, Meissner said. Price said he plans to continue seeking more fossils in the area hes dubbed Twinkies Cave, named after his fiancées dog. Prices long-term goal is to have the fossils preserved, then donate the cave to either a caving group or to state-funded paleontology organizations that have seen funding cuts due to budget woes. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com http://texascavers.com/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
