[Texascavers] Before the Deluge
I searched that book David mentioned about the Earth before the Deluge (the Biblical flood). It does not contain the word "cave," perhaps because there weren't any yet. A popular theory of speleogenesis in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries was that caves were eroded when the water of the flood came from within the earth and/or when it drained back into it. An extensive discussion, with references, is in Trevor Shaw's "History of Cave Science," chapter 19. -- Bill Mixon -- You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Before the Deluge
The controversy was Neptunism (what Bill described) versus Vulcanism
-- the idea that every thing was volcanic origin. It was important
because in britain they were trying in the 19th century to reconcile
the geologic record with the bible, and they had to know if they were
dating to Noah (the neptunists) or to creation ("let there be
light"). See Martin Rudwick, THe Great Devonian Controversy."
OT.
-k
At 1:38 PM -0500 7/11/08, Mixon Bill wrote:
I searched that book David mentioned about the Earth before the
Deluge (the Biblical flood). It does not contain the word "cave,"
perhaps because there weren't any yet. A popular theory of
speleogenesis in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries was that
caves were eroded when the water of the flood came from within the
earth and/or when it drained back into it. An extensive discussion,
with references, is in Trevor Shaw's "History of Cave Science,"
chapter 19. -- Bill Mixon
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Re: [Texascavers] Before the Deluge
A popular theory of speleogenesis in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries was that caves were eroded when the water of the flood came from within the earth and/or when it drained back into it. If one isnt utterly literal - that explanation would certainly jibe with my understanding of speleogenesis. Most caves are formed below the water and emerge when the water levels go down. Just as the story of creation (if one can get over 'knowing' what is meant by a day) would seem to accurately reflect the current geologic/biologic understanding of the order of creation. Einstein famously said that if one thoroughly understands their field of expertise, they can explain it to a 5 year old child. Might be interesting for us to see if we can describe what we 'know to be true' in terms easily grasped by a 5 year old. Might bear a startling resemblance to some creation stories that we are dismissive of . . . Nance - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
