Nice! Never really thought of being a caver as courageous as much as 
masochistic.

Diana

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From: 'Jerry' via Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society 
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 7:35 AM
To: swrcav...@googlegroups.com <swrcav...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [SWR CAVERS] Carlsbad Caverns in the presidential news :


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>From the Santa Fe Reporter :

New Mexico's Carlsbad 
Caverns<https://sfreporter.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1e05a646494f869efd43620ea&id=1ecdca20bf&e=25c65d5fa0>
 receives plenty of love on a regular basis from the national travel story 
industry (Thrillist even wrote about the best nearby Airbnb rentals 
<https://sfreporter.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1e05a646494f869efd43620ea&id=7988ece7de&e=25c65d5fa0>
 recently). The national park also figures in former President Barack Obama's 
memories, as relayed in a recent 
video<https://sfreporter.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1e05a646494f869efd43620ea&id=e4b8385533&e=25c65d5fa0>
 promoting the new Netflix documentary Our Great National 
Parks<https://sfreporter.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1e05a646494f869efd43620ea&id=20b97e6329&e=25c65d5fa0>,
 which Obama narrates. Obama sat down with former White House photographer Pete 
Souza and recalled how frightened the Secret Service had become when Obama 
visited Carlsbad Caverns in 2016. "I don't know if you remember, there came a 
point when they turned off all the lights," Obama said. "You couldn't see your 
hand in front of your face." Souza remembered: "It's the most nervous Secret 
Service has ever been because they could not see you for a good 15 seconds. You 
disappeared." Obama concurred: "I vanished," he said. "That was pretty spooky," 
Souza replied. As for the caves themselves, Obama says: "They were remarkable. 
I didn’t expect them to be as massive as they were. You know, one thing you 
always get an impression of is what it must have been like if you were one of 
the first people to really see these places and survey them. You know, the 
amount of courage that would be involved."

Jerry Atkinson.


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