Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-03 Thread Dale Barnard
Someone had some of that glow-in-the-dark rope from Harbor Freight out at
the Kerrville Folk Festival last year. It looked great for  the first few
days, but then basically stopped glowing much at all. It was outside exposed
to the sun being used to hold down tents and shade canopies.

Dale


Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-03 Thread Dale Barnard
Someone had some of that glow-in-the-dark rope from Harbor Freight out at
the Kerrville Folk Festival last year. It looked great for  the first few
days, but then basically stopped glowing much at all. It was outside exposed
to the sun being used to hold down tents and shade canopies.

Dale


Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-03 Thread Dale Barnard
Someone had some of that glow-in-the-dark rope from Harbor Freight out at
the Kerrville Folk Festival last year. It looked great for  the first few
days, but then basically stopped glowing much at all. It was outside exposed
to the sun being used to hold down tents and shade canopies.

Dale


[Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Logan McNatt

Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day 
visit to Harbor Freight Tools.

This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for 
up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and 
campground perimeter markers.
Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
And when it breaks above you, the glowing rope pile will make it easy for rescuers to locate you at the bottom.8-o-Original Message-From: Logan McNatt Sent: Jun 2, 2011 8:39 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)

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Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Mark Minton
There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope 
(basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion 
resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, 
which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is 
not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of 
rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of 
minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), 
then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back 
to it (or used it in the first place).


Mark

At 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:
Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a 
Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.


This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can 
be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then 
glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent 
tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.

Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


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Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
There is a technology for making theluminescence last longer, such that you don't have to continually stimulate it with bright light. You could mix in some radioactive material, such as tritium or radium, as was done for many luminous dial watches and other instruments.http://elginwatches.org/help/luminous_dials.htmlJust think, as it rubbed off of yourradioluminescent rope onto you, then you, too, could glow in the dark without having to be flashed every 6 hours. Of course, they might have to add a few items to the warning label.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: Jun 2, 2011 9:30 PMTo: lmcn...@austin.rr.com, Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving? There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope (basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back to it (or used it in the first place).MarkAt 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 

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[Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Logan McNatt

Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day 
visit to Harbor Freight Tools.

This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for 
up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and 
campground perimeter markers.
Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
And when it breaks above you, the glowing rope pile will make it easy for rescuers to locate you at the bottom.8-o-Original Message-From: Logan McNatt Sent: Jun 2, 2011 8:39 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)

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Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Mark Minton
There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope 
(basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion 
resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, 
which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is 
not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of 
rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of 
minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), 
then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back 
to it (or used it in the first place).


Mark

At 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:
Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a 
Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.


This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can 
be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then 
glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent 
tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.

Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


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Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 

Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
There is a technology for making theluminescence last longer, such that you don't have to continually stimulate it with bright light. You could mix in some radioactive material, such as tritium or radium, as was done for many luminous dial watches and other instruments.http://elginwatches.org/help/luminous_dials.htmlJust think, as it rubbed off of yourradioluminescent rope onto you, then you, too, could glow in the dark without having to be flashed every 6 hours. Of course, they might have to add a few items to the warning label.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: Jun 2, 2011 9:30 PMTo: lmcn...@austin.rr.com, Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving? There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope (basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back to it (or used it in the first place).MarkAt 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 

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[Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Logan McNatt

Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day 
visit to Harbor Freight Tools.

This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for 
up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and 
campground perimeter markers.
Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
And when it breaks above you, the glowing rope pile will make it easy for rescuers to locate you at the bottom.8-o-Original Message-From: Logan McNatt Sent: Jun 2, 2011 8:39 PMTo: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)

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Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Mark Minton
There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope 
(basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion 
resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, 
which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is 
not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of 
rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of 
minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), 
then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back 
to it (or used it in the first place).


Mark

At 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:
Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a 
Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools.


This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can 
be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then 
glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.

Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.
Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent 
tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.

Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.
Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals.

3/16 x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb safe working load
1/4 x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb safe working load

Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.

One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.

LowGun ;-)


Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
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Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving?

2011-06-02 Thread Rod Goke
There is a technology for making theluminescence last longer, such that you don't have to continually stimulate it with bright light. You could mix in some radioactive material, such as tritium or radium, as was done for many luminous dial watches and other instruments.http://elginwatches.org/help/luminous_dials.htmlJust think, as it rubbed off of yourradioluminescent rope onto you, then you, too, could glow in the dark without having to be flashed every 6 hours. Of course, they might have to add a few items to the warning label.;-)Rod-Original Message-From: Mark Minton Sent: Jun 2, 2011 9:30 PMTo: lmcn...@austin.rr.com, Texas Cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Glow in the Dark Rope for caving? There's a reason cavers do not use polypropylene rope (basically water-ski rope).  It has low strength and low abrasion resistance relative to nylon or polyester.  (It does float, however, which can be valuable in river caves.)  The fluorescent property is not inherent in polypropylene, though, so presumably other types of rope could also be made to glow in the dark.  Still, it would be of minimal utility.  If a caving trip lasted more than 6 hours (likely), then the rope would no longer be glowing by the time a team got back to it (or used it in the first place).MarkAt 09:39 PM 6/2/2011, Logan McNatt wrote:Some of you probably have seen this before, but I had not until a Memorial Day visit to Harbor Freight Tools."This 100% polypropylene rope includes fluorescent material that can be charged with either natural or artificial light and will then glow for up to 5 hours when placed in the dark.Fluorescent material can be re-charged as often as needed for up to 6 months.Perfect for backyard trip hazards, caves, underwater, tent tie-downs, and campground perimeter markers.Diamond-braid minimizes stretch for long life and durability.Resistant to abrasion, gas-oil, mildew, and chemicals."3/16" x 50 ft for $2.99; 70 lb "safe working load"1/4" x 50 ft for $3.99.  90 lb "safe working load"Not recommended for cavers over 70 to 90 lbs, or for pits over 50 ft deep.One advantage is being able to see where the rope ends.LowGun ;-)Please reply to mmin...@caver.netPermanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org 

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