Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
I've never rocked Bill's pack but I did get him to, unwittingly, tow me most of the way to the QR series in HCC by hanging onto his trailing boogie board tether. *Love ya, Bill! Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 04:29:14 AM CST, Galen Falgout wrote: I have a video from the same trip and I caught Bill "accidentally" rocking someone's pack On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 1:26 PM Bill Steele wrote: https://youtu.be/70bB7BffJlY On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
I was just putting that rock where it belonged and happened to get caught on video. Bill Steele Always innocent > On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Galen Falgout wrote: > > > I have a video from the same trip and I caught Bill "accidentally" rocking > someone's pack > >> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 1:26 PM Bill Steele wrote: >> https://youtu.be/70bB7BffJlY >> On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in >>> overburden. >>> >>> Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in >>> Honey Creek Cave. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Geary >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
I have a video from the same trip and I caught Bill "accidentally" rocking someone's pack On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 1:26 PM Bill Steele wrote: > https://youtu.be/70bB7BffJlY > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in > overburden. > > Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in > Honey Creek Cave. > > Thanks, > > Geary > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
https://youtu.be/70bB7BffJlY > On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in > overburden. > > Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in > Honey Creek Cave. > > Thanks, > > Geary > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
https://youtu.be/KUxPpksr2t8 > On Jan 6, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > > Folks, > > I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in > overburden. > > Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in > Honey Creek Cave. > > Thanks, > > Geary > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
It is a real pleasure to see this type of discussion on texascavers. A good example of useful and interesting information which I think is the primary purpose of this forum. Thanks Geary and all the respondents. Happy New Year and New Decade. Logan On 1/6/2020 9:14 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: Jim, Correct and so noted. Thanks for responding. Geary *From:* Texascavers *On Behalf Of *Crash Kennedy *Sent:* Monday, January 6, 2020 8:56 AM *To:* CaveTex *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft Geary, I have lots of information about using culverts to stabilize cave entrances (and abandoned mine portals). However, I must interject a word of caution. Caves (unlike mines) often have very specific microclimatic regimes and small changes can often alter the airflow and temperature/humidity profiles. Therefore, VERY careful consideration must be exercised before recommending culvert placement. This is also important if a bat cave is the subject. That said, many caves (and yes, even mines), have been preserved for wildlife use through the installation of culverts. In an ideal world, some pre-installation microclimate modeling and biomonitoring would take place in order to judge the effects of the culvert. Jim On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:43 AM Geary Schindel mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote: Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary ***This is an external email - beware links & attachments from unknown senders*** ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
Butt ugly way too heavy. Wm and I worked w/City of Sunset Valley and we installed this incredible, light weight, poly or plastic 6’ diameter street drain pipe into the entrance of Sunset Valley cave which has a stream that drains directly into the cave. It’s been amazing and the material can be cut to fit using a skill saw or chainsaw. If you’d like the contact at Sunset Valley, Geary just email me and I’ll send you all the info and they’ll be happy to talk w/you about the entire project and photos. Jules julesje...@yahoo.com > On Jan 6, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
Jim, Correct and so noted. Thanks for responding. Geary From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Crash Kennedy Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 8:56 AM To: CaveTex Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft Geary, I have lots of information about using culverts to stabilize cave entrances (and abandoned mine portals). However, I must interject a word of caution. Caves (unlike mines) often have very specific microclimatic regimes and small changes can often alter the airflow and temperature/humidity profiles. Therefore, VERY careful consideration must be exercised before recommending culvert placement. This is also important if a bat cave is the subject. That said, many caves (and yes, even mines), have been preserved for wildlife use through the installation of culverts. In an ideal world, some pre-installation microclimate modeling and biomonitoring would take place in order to judge the effects of the culvert. Jim On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:43 AM Geary Schindel mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote: Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary ***This is an external email - beware links & attachments from unknown senders*** ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
Geary, I have lots of information about using culverts to stabilize cave entrances (and abandoned mine portals). However, I must interject a word of caution. Caves (unlike mines) often have very specific microclimatic regimes and small changes can often alter the airflow and temperature/humidity profiles. Therefore, VERY careful consideration must be exercised before recommending culvert placement. This is also important if a bat cave is the subject. That said, many caves (and yes, even mines), have been preserved for wildlife use through the installation of culverts. In an ideal world, some pre-installation microclimate modeling and biomonitoring would take place in order to judge the effects of the culvert. Jim On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:43 AM Geary Schindel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in > overburden. > > Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in > Honey Creek Cave. > > Thanks, > > Geary > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
Thanks, I’m working on my response to my counseling measure. Geary From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Michael Harris Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 8:15 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft I have some. I'll dig them out for you. Mike On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 7:43 AM Geary Schindel mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>> wrote: Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ***This is an external email - beware links & attachments from unknown senders*** ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
I have some. I'll dig them out for you. Mike On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 7:43 AM Geary Schindel wrote: > Folks, > > I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in > overburden. > > Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in > Honey Creek Cave. > > Thanks, > > Geary > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Photo of Honey Creek Shaft
Folks, I'm doing some research on the use of culverts to secure cave entrances in overburden. Does anyone have a couple pictures of the shaft and lowering operation in Honey Creek Cave. Thanks, Geary <>___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
