Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Gregg]

Dangerosity os a great word.

Chris Vreeland wrote:
I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall 
stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving, 
it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of 
dangerosity. This doesn't include cave diving, which would skew the 
numbers, as diving appears to be quite a bit more dangerous. I have no 
authoritative statistics to back up that last statement, though -- 
just a hunch.


CV



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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Lyndon Tiu]

People get injured or killed playing golf?!@#$%

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:06:56 -0500 cvreel...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall  
> stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving,  
> it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of  
> dangerosity. This doesn't include cave diving, which would skew the  
> numbers, as diving appears to be quite a bit more dangerous. I have  
> no authoritative statistics to back up that last statement, though --  
> just a hunch.
> 
> CV
> 
> On Nov 1, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Lyndon Tiu wrote:
> 
> > IMHO, Caving is safe provided you have:
> >
> > 1) Proper training
> > 2) Proper equipment
> > 3) Proper planning
> >
> > as with anything else ...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:02:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00)  
> > tbsam...@infionline.net wrote:
> >> Too many adverbs  & very relatively is a tad ambiguous..
> >>
> >> T.
> >>
> >>
> >>   -----Original Message-----
> >>   From: "Minton, Mark"
> >>   Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:34 AM
> >>   To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> >>   Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving
> >>
> >>   From
> >>   <http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/102707kvuecavefest-mm. 
> >> 1b28dd99f.html>:
> >>> "Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie
> >>   Jenkins. Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-) Mark Minton
> >>
> >>
> >> http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/
> >>
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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Chris Vreeland]

I'd heard somewhere (Now that's authoritative!) that when the overall  
stats of caver injury and death are added up vs. hours spent caving,  
it falls somewhere between Soccer and Golf on the scale of  
dangerosity. This doesn't include cave diving, which would skew the  
numbers, as diving appears to be quite a bit more dangerous. I have  
no authoritative statistics to back up that last statement, though --  
just a hunch.


CV

On Nov 1, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Lyndon Tiu wrote:


IMHO, Caving is safe provided you have:

1) Proper training
2) Proper equipment
3) Proper planning

as with anything else ...


On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:02:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00)  
tbsam...@infionline.net wrote:

Too many adverbs  & very relatively is a tad ambiguous..

T.


  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:34 AM
  To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
  Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

  From
  <http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/102707kvuecavefest-mm. 
1b28dd99f.html>:

"Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie

  Jenkins. Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-) Mark Minton


http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/

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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Lyndon Tiu]

IMHO, Caving is safe provided you have:

1) Proper training
2) Proper equipment
3) Proper planning

as with anything else ... 


On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:02:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00) tbsam...@infionline.net wrote:
> Too many adverbs  & very relatively is a tad ambiguous..
> 
> T.
> 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: "Minton, Mark"
>   Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:34 AM
>   To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
>   Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving
> 
>   From
>   
> <http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/102707kvuecavefest-mm.1b28dd99f.html>:
>   >"Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie
>   Jenkins. Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-) Mark Minton
> 
> 
> http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/
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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Ted Samsel]

Too many adverbs  & very relatively is a tad ambiguous..
T.
-Original Message- From: "Minton, Mark" Sent: Oct 29, 2007 9:34 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving 

  From :
 
>"Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie Jenkins.
 
  Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-)
 
Mark Minton

http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/

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Re: [Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Lyndon Tiu]

Safe ... only in Austin ;)


On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:34:31 -0400 mmin...@nmhu.edu wrote:
>   From
>  .html>:
> 
> >"Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie
> Jenkins.
> 
>   Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-)
> 
> Mark Minton


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[Texascavers] RE: Austin Cave Fest promotes safe caving

[Minton, Mark]

  From 
:

>"Caving is a very, very relatively safe sport in austin," says Julie Jenkins.

  Say what?  So, is it safe or not?  :-)

Mark Minton