Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
Geary, people may have a lot of labels for you.but at least you don't need the Girl Scouts to rescue your misplaced caving gear Sent from my iPhone On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:42 PM, "Geary Schindel" wrote: Yeah, I’m actually from Maryland which some people don’t recognize as the true south since it didn’t secede from the Union. However, it is south of the Mason Dixon Line. My comments to Alex were intended to be snotty since he’s tried to kill me on more than one occasion but who actually helped form my early caving experiences. Regarding this Yankee stuff, when I moved from Maryland to West Virginia, it wasn’t an issue. When I moved from West Virginia to Kentucky, they called me a Yankee. When I moved from Kentucky to Tennessee, they called me a Yankee from Kentucky. Now that I’m about as far south as you can get in the US, I take the opportunity to label everyone else a Yankee. However, the folks down here still call me a hick from the sticks. I’ve found that wherever you’re at, the natives always consider it better than wherever you’re from. With the possible exception of folks from New Jersey who consider anywhere better than there. This is funny, cause some parts of northern New Jersey are actually pretty nice. G From: Keith Goggin [mailto:ke...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:54 PM To: Geary Schindel; Fritz Holt; mark.al...@l-3com.com; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary Careful now, son! ;-) K
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Actually, I'm about to run into our board meeting where I really earn my salary and also the right to earn it in the future. Today, I have to discuss a very popular subject in the region called droughts and trying to predict when we'll enter critical period and start water restrictions. We're in a very serious drought down here with most of the region receiving around 11-13 inches of rain last year. This isn't bad if you live in the Chihuahuan Desert but less than the 30 inches we usually average. Anyway, I'll try to avoid misuse of the spoken word in the board meeting - the board is always more impressed with I speak good English. I certainly do not talk to them about cluming in any of them there caves. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:37 PM To: Geary Schindel Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave >I take the opportunity to label everyone else a Yankee. However, the folks >down here still call me a hick from the sticks. The Edwards Aquifer clearly is not keeping you busy enough to justify your engorged salary, 'cuz I know you don't type that fast, Bozo. Alex -- Alex Sproul NSS 8086RL/FE NSS Webmaster
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>I take the opportunity to label everyone else a Yankee. However, the folks >down here still call me a hick from the sticks. The Edwards Aquifer clearly is not keeping you busy enough to justify your engorged salary, 'cuz I know you don't type that fast, Bozo. Alex -- Alex Sproul NSS 8086RL/FE NSS Webmaster - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
Geary, Interesting, but you realize that this post will evoke more ribbing and critique from Ediger. He may even call you a hick, especially with "wherever you're at". I think that I would prefer Bozo. It's OK as everyone on this forum loves you, with the possible exception of close relatives. Fritz, foot in mouth, Holt From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 1:42 PM To: Keith Goggin; Fritz Holt; mark.al...@l-3com.com; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Yeah, I'm actually from Maryland which some people don't recognize as the true south since it didn't secede from the Union. However, it is south of the Mason Dixon Line. My comments to Alex were intended to be snotty since he's tried to kill me on more than one occasion but who actually helped form my early caving experiences. Regarding this Yankee stuff, when I moved from Maryland to West Virginia, it wasn't an issue. When I moved from West Virginia to Kentucky, they called me a Yankee. When I moved from Kentucky to Tennessee, they called me a Yankee from Kentucky. Now that I'm about as far south as you can get in the US, I take the opportunity to label everyone else a Yankee. However, the folks down here still call me a hick from the sticks. I've found that wherever you're at, the natives always consider it better than wherever you're from. With the possible exception of folks from New Jersey who consider anywhere better than there. This is funny, cause some parts of northern New Jersey are actually pretty nice. G From: Keith Goggin [mailto:ke...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:54 PM To: Geary Schindel; Fritz Holt; mark.al...@l-3com.com; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary Careful now, son! ;-) K
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
Yeah, I'm actually from Maryland which some people don't recognize as the true south since it didn't secede from the Union. However, it is south of the Mason Dixon Line. My comments to Alex were intended to be snotty since he's tried to kill me on more than one occasion but who actually helped form my early caving experiences. Regarding this Yankee stuff, when I moved from Maryland to West Virginia, it wasn't an issue. When I moved from West Virginia to Kentucky, they called me a Yankee. When I moved from Kentucky to Tennessee, they called me a Yankee from Kentucky. Now that I'm about as far south as you can get in the US, I take the opportunity to label everyone else a Yankee. However, the folks down here still call me a hick from the sticks. I've found that wherever you're at, the natives always consider it better than wherever you're from. With the possible exception of folks from New Jersey who consider anywhere better than there. This is funny, cause some parts of northern New Jersey are actually pretty nice. G From: Keith Goggin [mailto:ke...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:54 PM To: Geary Schindel; Fritz Holt; mark.al...@l-3com.com; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary Careful now, son! ;-) K
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary Careful now, son! ;-) K
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>Fritz, >Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees >are from Virginia. I heard that, Bozo! Alex - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
YOWSA! From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:05 AM To: Fritz Holt; mark.al...@l-3com.com; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Fritz, Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:00 AM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Geary Schindel; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Geary, I thought that your nickname was Linchpin, not Bozo. Geezer From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:27 AM To: Geary Schindel; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Sounds like a good candidate for the "Carbide Corner" in The TEXAS CAVER, Geary. Care to write something for the next issue? Thanks! Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tue 1/13/2009 8:23 AM To: imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Alex, You do remember we first met in a bar in West Virginia. You and Bob were big time Alabama cavers looking to pick up some locals (for caving only). Did the excellent tutelage include the time that Dave G. tried to jump off the cliff at Short Cave and almost killed himself. I think that was back when some folks, after taking some things they shouldn't have taken, actually thought they could fly. Or was it when we went into Cass and you busted a sling on your Mitchell System and didn't have a safety ascender and ended up standing in one sling 130 feet off the floor with a large waterfall roaring past. I had to climb up the rope to bring you a sling, hoping you wouldn't drop you ammo can/camera system on my head and loop a sling under your foot, then you couldn't cross the lip with my weight on the rope so Bob lowered the tail end of the rope and I changed onto a 15 foot length of rope with 130 feet of air under me and hung out watching the waterfall while you passed the lip. Or was it when we did the February trip to Crookshank Pit, a nice 100 foot open air pit with a waterfall. When we got back to the bottom of the pit, it was 5 degrees out and the rope had frozen to the wall of the pit. I was at the bottom trying to keep warm with my wheat lamp in the swirling mist/snow and 5 degree temp. Since I was the last one up the rope, climbing with a Mitchell System, it was loads of fun. I would climb one cycle and the teeth on the Jumars got clogged with ice and I would have to take one off the rope and put it in my mouth to unthaw it, place it back on the rope and set it, climb one cycle, then do it all over again. I only slid down the rope once on the Jumars and it was only for 2 feet. I thought I was going to have to use the parrot technique, climb the rope using my beak and claws but persistence won out. Or was it the time . . . . we'll this could go on for days. OK, yes, Carderock was another story, climbing too high with no rope - not smart, but when you're young and dumb and think you can't be killed by normal means - geez, I still have nightmares about some of that stuff. However, I don't actually remember trespassing with you or Bob - just other crazy stuff - well, those were the days. Thought you would get some laughs out of that. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Geary Schindel Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Herr Schindel said: >I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving >until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul
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Fritz, Thanks for the support, you know how those irreverent, uppity Yankees are from Virginia. Geary From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:00 AM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; Geary Schindel; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Geary, I thought that your nickname was Linchpin, not Bozo. Geezer From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:27 AM To: Geary Schindel; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Sounds like a good candidate for the "Carbide Corner" in The TEXAS CAVER, Geary. Care to write something for the next issue? Thanks! Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tue 1/13/2009 8:23 AM To: imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Alex, You do remember we first met in a bar in West Virginia. You and Bob were big time Alabama cavers looking to pick up some locals (for caving only). Did the excellent tutelage include the time that Dave G. tried to jump off the cliff at Short Cave and almost killed himself. I think that was back when some folks, after taking some things they shouldn't have taken, actually thought they could fly. Or was it when we went into Cass and you busted a sling on your Mitchell System and didn't have a safety ascender and ended up standing in one sling 130 feet off the floor with a large waterfall roaring past. I had to climb up the rope to bring you a sling, hoping you wouldn't drop you ammo can/camera system on my head and loop a sling under your foot, then you couldn't cross the lip with my weight on the rope so Bob lowered the tail end of the rope and I changed onto a 15 foot length of rope with 130 feet of air under me and hung out watching the waterfall while you passed the lip. Or was it when we did the February trip to Crookshank Pit, a nice 100 foot open air pit with a waterfall. When we got back to the bottom of the pit, it was 5 degrees out and the rope had frozen to the wall of the pit. I was at the bottom trying to keep warm with my wheat lamp in the swirling mist/snow and 5 degree temp. Since I was the last one up the rope, climbing with a Mitchell System, it was loads of fun. I would climb one cycle and the teeth on the Jumars got clogged with ice and I would have to take one off the rope and put it in my mouth to unthaw it, place it back on the rope and set it, climb one cycle, then do it all over again. I only slid down the rope once on the Jumars and it was only for 2 feet. I thought I was going to have to use the parrot technique, climb the rope using my beak and claws but persistence won out. Or was it the time . . . . we'll this could go on for days. OK, yes, Carderock was another story, climbing too high with no rope - not smart, but when you're young and dumb and think you can't be killed by normal means - geez, I still have nightmares about some of that stuff. However, I don't actually remember trespassing with you or Bob - just other crazy stuff - well, those were the days. Thought you would get some laughs out of that. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Geary Schindel Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Herr Schindel said: >I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving >until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul
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Geary, I thought that your nickname was Linchpin, not Bozo. Geezer From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:27 AM To: Geary Schindel; imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Sounds like a good candidate for the "Carbide Corner" in The TEXAS CAVER, Geary. Care to write something for the next issue? Thanks! Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tue 1/13/2009 8:23 AM To: imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Alex, You do remember we first met in a bar in West Virginia. You and Bob were big time Alabama cavers looking to pick up some locals (for caving only). Did the excellent tutelage include the time that Dave G. tried to jump off the cliff at Short Cave and almost killed himself. I think that was back when some folks, after taking some things they shouldn't have taken, actually thought they could fly. Or was it when we went into Cass and you busted a sling on your Mitchell System and didn't have a safety ascender and ended up standing in one sling 130 feet off the floor with a large waterfall roaring past. I had to climb up the rope to bring you a sling, hoping you wouldn't drop you ammo can/camera system on my head and loop a sling under your foot, then you couldn't cross the lip with my weight on the rope so Bob lowered the tail end of the rope and I changed onto a 15 foot length of rope with 130 feet of air under me and hung out watching the waterfall while you passed the lip. Or was it when we did the February trip to Crookshank Pit, a nice 100 foot open air pit with a waterfall. When we got back to the bottom of the pit, it was 5 degrees out and the rope had frozen to the wall of the pit. I was at the bottom trying to keep warm with my wheat lamp in the swirling mist/snow and 5 degree temp. Since I was the last one up the rope, climbing with a Mitchell System, it was loads of fun. I would climb one cycle and the teeth on the Jumars got clogged with ice and I would have to take one off the rope and put it in my mouth to unthaw it, place it back on the rope and set it, climb one cycle, then do it all over again. I only slid down the rope once on the Jumars and it was only for 2 feet. I thought I was going to have to use the parrot technique, climb the rope using my beak and claws but persistence won out. Or was it the time . . . . we'll this could go on for days. OK, yes, Carderock was another story, climbing too high with no rope - not smart, but when you're young and dumb and think you can't be killed by normal means - geez, I still have nightmares about some of that stuff. However, I don't actually remember trespassing with you or Bob - just other crazy stuff - well, those were the days. Thought you would get some laughs out of that. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Geary Schindel Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Herr Schindel said: >I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving >until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
Sounds like a good candidate for the "Carbide Corner" in The TEXAS CAVER, Geary. Care to write something for the next issue? Thanks! Mark From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Tue 1/13/2009 8:23 AM To: imoca...@comcast.net; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Alex, You do remember we first met in a bar in West Virginia. You and Bob were big time Alabama cavers looking to pick up some locals (for caving only). Did the excellent tutelage include the time that Dave G. tried to jump off the cliff at Short Cave and almost killed himself. I think that was back when some folks, after taking some things they shouldn't have taken, actually thought they could fly. Or was it when we went into Cass and you busted a sling on your Mitchell System and didn't have a safety ascender and ended up standing in one sling 130 feet off the floor with a large waterfall roaring past. I had to climb up the rope to bring you a sling, hoping you wouldn't drop you ammo can/camera system on my head and loop a sling under your foot, then you couldn't cross the lip with my weight on the rope so Bob lowered the tail end of the rope and I changed onto a 15 foot length of rope with 130 feet of air under me and hung out watching the waterfall while you passed the lip. Or was it when we did the February trip to Crookshank Pit, a nice 100 foot open air pit with a waterfall. When we got back to the bottom of the pit, it was 5 degrees out and the rope had frozen to the wall of the pit. I was at the bottom trying to keep warm with my wheat lamp in the swirling mist/snow and 5 degree temp. Since I was the last one up the rope, climbing with a Mitchell System, it was loads of fun. I would climb one cycle and the teeth on the Jumars got clogged with ice and I would have to take one off the rope and put it in my mouth to unthaw it, place it back on the rope and set it, climb one cycle, then do it all over again. I only slid down the rope once on the Jumars and it was only for 2 feet. I thought I was going to have to use the parrot technique, climb the rope using my beak and claws but persistence won out. Or was it the time . . . . we'll this could go on for days. OK, yes, Carderock was another story, climbing too high with no rope - not smart, but when you're young and dumb and think you can't be killed by normal means - geez, I still have nightmares about some of that stuff. However, I don't actually remember trespassing with you or Bob - just other crazy stuff - well, those were the days. Thought you would get some laughs out of that. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Geary Schindel Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Herr Schindel said: >I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving >until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul
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Alex, You do remember we first met in a bar in West Virginia. You and Bob were big time Alabama cavers looking to pick up some locals (for caving only). Did the excellent tutelage include the time that Dave G. tried to jump off the cliff at Short Cave and almost killed himself. I think that was back when some folks, after taking some things they shouldn't have taken, actually thought they could fly. Or was it when we went into Cass and you busted a sling on your Mitchell System and didn't have a safety ascender and ended up standing in one sling 130 feet off the floor with a large waterfall roaring past. I had to climb up the rope to bring you a sling, hoping you wouldn't drop you ammo can/camera system on my head and loop a sling under your foot, then you couldn't cross the lip with my weight on the rope so Bob lowered the tail end of the rope and I changed onto a 15 foot length of rope with 130 feet of air under me and hung out watching the waterfall while you passed the lip. Or was it when we did the February trip to Crookshank Pit, a nice 100 foot open air pit with a waterfall. When we got back to the bottom of the pit, it was 5 degrees out and the rope had frozen to the wall of the pit. I was at the bottom trying to keep warm with my wheat lamp in the swirling mist/snow and 5 degree temp. Since I was the last one up the rope, climbing with a Mitchell System, it was loads of fun. I would climb one cycle and the teeth on the Jumars got clogged with ice and I would have to take one off the rope and put it in my mouth to unthaw it, place it back on the rope and set it, climb one cycle, then do it all over again. I only slid down the rope once on the Jumars and it was only for 2 feet. I thought I was going to have to use the parrot technique, climb the rope using my beak and claws but persistence won out. Or was it the time . . . . we'll this could go on for days. OK, yes, Carderock was another story, climbing too high with no rope - not smart, but when you're young and dumb and think you can't be killed by normal means - geez, I still have nightmares about some of that stuff. However, I don't actually remember trespassing with you or Bob - just other crazy stuff - well, those were the days. Thought you would get some laughs out of that. Geary From: Alex Sproul [mailto:imoca...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:06 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Geary Schindel Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave Herr Schindel said: >I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving >until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul
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Herr Schindel said: >I’m going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn’t start caving >until I was 14 and didn’t have transportation access until I was 16, there >but by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Beggin' yer pardon, there, Bozo, but you had most excellent tutelage from Day One by Bob and me. If you did any crazy stuff, it was at Carderock and not on my watch. Alex -- Alex Sproul, NSS 8086RL/FE 5715 Lee-Jackson Hwy, Greenville VA 24440 540-377-6364 Skype: alex.sproul - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
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On the KSAT website there are now some comments from the kids who got caught in the cave. Apparently they weren't trapped and have visited the cave before. "Hey, I'm one of the boys that was involved in this cave incident, and I just wanted to let everyone know that the news report was wrong in that there were three of us, not four, and that I have been to that cave many times before and we were not trapped, we were just exploring. I want to thank the police and firemen though for their good intentions and I want to apologize for trespassing. I thought that the trail was a public trail and that the fence was there to keep people from hurting themselves. Me and my friends, being adventurous, did'nt know that all this would happen over our curiosity. I just wanted to let anyone know that thought we were 'trapped' that we were not and that I will not be going in a cave anytime soon." Maybe they need an introduction to the Bexar Grotto. -Marvin --- jerryat...@aol.com wrote:From: jerryat...@aol.comTo: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net, jran...@gmail.comCc: texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:15:42 -0500I agree with John. We all knew of kids (now adults) that would have jumped over that fence, which at that age is only fair game. The problem is, these little fools got into trouble. The only thing worse is that the cave is reported to be only 20 feet deep, which if true, means that our 4 little felons followed each other into a cave that obviously had an overhung drop, or they were unable to extricate themselves from a cave that they all barely fit into !! Either way, they appear to be candidates for the Darwin Awards.-Original Message-From: John Brooks To: Joe Ranzau Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:33 pmSubject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth. Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue... With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president!Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Joe Ranzau" <jran...@gmail.com> wrote: Children read the papers? :-P On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy <jkenn...@batcon.org> wrote: I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent than the fence. -- Crash From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AMTo: Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : 4 Boys Rescued From Cave The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
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I'm going to have to plead the 5th on that one. While I didn't start caving
until I was 14 and didn't have transportation access until I was 16, there but
by the grace of the great flying spaghetti monster, go I. Sure I'm not the
only one out there.
Geary
From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:20 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
Are you feeling guilty of something from your youth?...or adult hood?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:12 PM, "Geary Schindel"
wrote:
Careful there buddy, you’re hitting a little too close to home.
Geary
From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Joe Ranzau
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
:
I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder
how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth.
Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue...
With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or
aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Joe Ranzau" wrote:
Children read the papers? :-P
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy
wrote:
I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent,
and made an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better
deterrent than the fence.
-- Crash
From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave
:
4 Boys Rescued From Cave
The children climbed a security fence to gain access to
the cave.
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
I agree with John. We all knew of kids (now adults) that would have jumped over that fence, which at that age is only fair game.? The problem is, these little fools got into trouble.? The only thing worse?is that the cave is reported to be only 20 feet deep, which if true, means that our 4 little felons followed each other into a cave that?obviously had an overhung drop, or they were unable to extricate themselves from a cave that they all barely fit into !!? Either way, they appear to be candidates for the Darwin Awards. -Original Message- From: John Brooks To: Joe Ranzau Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:33 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth. Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue... With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Joe Ranzau" wrote: Children read the papers?? :-P On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made an example of.? Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent than the fence. ? -- Crash ? From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : ? 4 Boys Rescued From Cave The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave. ?
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
Careful there buddy, you're hitting a little too close to home. Geary From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:33 PM To: Joe Ranzau Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth. Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue... With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Joe Ranzau" wrote: Children read the papers? :-P On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent than the fence. -- Crash From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : 4 Boys Rescued From Cave The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave.
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:33:23 -0800 (PST) jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net wrote: > I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder > how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth. > Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue... The mistake they made is getting trapped and rescued. > With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or > aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president! > Community work like cave resto/survey/digging or ridge walking would be good reformation activities for these kids. -- Lyndon Tiu - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
I certainly don't condone this type of activity...but I have to wonder how many of us participated in similar excursions in our mis-spent youth. Most of us were probably not caught and didn't require rescue... With proper reformthese kids could grow up to be scout leaders or aquifer researchers...or maybe even bat biologists or the president! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, "Joe Ranzau" wrote: Children read the papers? :-P On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent than the fence. -- Crash From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : 4 Boys Rescued From Cave The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave.
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
Children read the papers? :-P On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jim Kennedy wrote: > I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made > an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent > than the fence. > > > > -- Crash > > > > *From:* jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM > *To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : > > > 4 Boys Rescued From Cave > > The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave. > > >
[Texascavers] RE: Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave :
I sure as hell hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent, and made an example of. Get that in the papers and it might be a better deterrent than the fence. -- Crash From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 4:29 AM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Four boys rescued from Bexar County cave : 4 Boys Rescued From Cave The children climbed a security fence to gain access to the cave.
