Re: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's
Mark Minton wrote: Bill Steele once brought a triathlete to Honey Creek on a pretty hard trip. The poor guy had never been caving before, and he never knew what hit him. We would play with him, getting ahead and then waiting. When he showed up huffing and puffing Bill would say, Well, ready to go? He later said he thought he was in shape, but he wasn't so sure after that trip. I don't think he ever went caving again, at least not in Honey Creek, so I guess he thought caving was harder. ;-) (Seriously though, what's harder is a matter of what you're used to. I'd probably die off in a triathlon.) Let me explain. I was in a Rotary Club in San Antonio. The program chairman asked me to give a program on caving. After the program this guy came up, someone I recognized, and introduced himself: The name's Earl Woodell, triathelete. We'll er, commercial real estate broker, but my passion is triathlon. Ive done lots of them. I'm in tiptop shape and I'd like to go caving with you sometime to something you consider very demanding. It just so happened that Mark and I were going to some remote part of Honey Creek soon thereafter. So I outfitted the in the triathelete in the right gear and we took him along. I invited him to go caving some more, but he always had a conflict. Bill - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's
Gregg said: Airmen's is right here in Austin. It supposedly has going leads. But no one seems willing to go back that far to survey. So maybe it is harder than diving Honey Creek. I've worked on the leads at the back of Airmen's and also on some at points along the way. As far as I know there are no open leads. Everything involves digging. There is good air in places, but it is a hell of a long way to go just to dig, which is why few people have bothered. The potential is great, though, and the cave no doubt goes a long way past it's currently known end. Talk to William Russell about where the leads are. I'm sure he'd be glad to tell you. :-) I took a marathon runner to the back once. It took him all trip to determine which was harder, running 28 miles in one shot or going to the back of Airmen's. He decided the marathon was harder. Bill Steele once brought a triathlete to Honey Creek on a pretty hard trip. The poor guy had never been caving before, and he never knew what hit him. We would play with him, getting ahead and then waiting. When he showed up huffing and puffing Bill would say, Well, ready to go? He later said he thought he was in shape, but he wasn't so sure after that trip. I don't think he ever went caving again, at least not in Honey Creek, so I guess he thought caving was harder. ;-) (Seriously though, what's harder is a matter of what you're used to. I'd probably die off in a triathlon.) Tall people hate the one-legged man, too, though I've seen two different 6' 4'' cavers do it. I'm 6'2 and I kind of like the One-Legged Man. But you don't have to do that anymore - we made a bypass years ago. Or did that collapse? Mark Minton
RE: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's
I took a weight lifter/runner to a crawl cave once and he was in excellent shape. The crawl wasn't near as long as Airman's either. After the trip, he decided that while he was in fact in great shape he had sore muscles he didn't know he had. He developed an exercise regimen where he did a belly crawl using the tips of his fingers and toes through several rooms in his house. He became a great low crawlway caver and oddly enough the additional exercise helped him with other aspects of his physical activities. Butch From: Minton, Mark [mailto:mmin...@nmhu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:56 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's Gregg said: Airmen's is right here in Austin. It supposedly has going leads. But no one seems willing to go back that far to survey. So maybe it is harder than diving Honey Creek. I've worked on the leads at the back of Airmen's and also on some at points along the way. As far as I know there are no open leads. Everything involves digging. There is good air in places, but it is a hell of a long way to go just to dig, which is why few people have bothered. The potential is great, though, and the cave no doubt goes a long way past it's currently known end. Talk to William Russell about where the leads are. I'm sure he'd be glad to tell you. :-) I took a marathon runner to the back once. It took him all trip to determine which was harder, running 28 miles in one shot or going to the back of Airmen's. He decided the marathon was harder. Bill Steele once brought a triathlete to Honey Creek on a pretty hard trip. The poor guy had never been caving before, and he never knew what hit him. We would play with him, getting ahead and then waiting. When he showed up huffing and puffing Bill would say, Well, ready to go? He later said he thought he was in shape, but he wasn't so sure after that trip. I don't think he ever went caving again, at least not in Honey Creek, so I guess he thought caving was harder. ;-) (Seriously though, what's harder is a matter of what you're used to. I'd probably die off in a triathlon.) Tall people hate the one-legged man, too, though I've seen two different 6' 4'' cavers do it. I'm 6'2 and I kind of like the One-Legged Man. But you don't have to do that anymore - we made a bypass years ago. Or did that collapse? Mark Minton
Re: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's
I'm 6'2 and I kind of like the One-Legged Man.? But you don't have to do that anymore - we made a bypass years ago.? Or did that collapse? ? Mark Minton Bypass is still there. I'm too short to make it through one legged man without a lot of trouble especially dealing with a pack. puppy =:-) -Original Message- From: Minton, Mark mmin...@nmhu.edu To: texascavers@texascavers.com texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:56 am Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Honey Creek/Airmen's ?? Gregg said: ? Airmen's is right here in Austin.? It supposedly has going leads.? But no one seems willing to go back that far to survey.? So maybe it is harder than diving Honey Creek. ? ? I've worked on the leads at the back of Airmen's and also on some at points along the way.? As far as I know there?are no open leads.? Everything involves digging.? There is good air in places, but it is a hell of a long way to go just to dig, which is why few people have bothered.? The potential is great, though, and the cave no doubt goes a long way past it's currently known?end.? Talk to William Russell about where the leads are.? I'm sure he'd be glad to tell you.? :-) ? I took a marathon runner to the back once.? It took him all trip to determine which was harder, running 28 miles in one shot or going to the back of Airmen's.? He decided the marathon was harder. ? ? Bill Steele once brought a triathlete to Honey Creek on a pretty hard trip.? The poor guy had never been caving before, and he never knew what hit him.? We would play with him, getting ahead and then waiting.? When he showed up huffing and puffing Bill would say, Well, ready to go?? He later said he thought he was in shape, but he wasn't so sure after that trip.? I don't think he ever went caving again, at least not in Honey Creek, so I guess he thought caving was harder.? ;-)? (Seriously though, what's harder is a matter of what you're used to.? I'd probably die off in a triathlon.) ? Tall people hate the one-legged man, too, though I've seen two different 6' 4'' cavers do it. ? ? I'm 6'2 and I kind of like the One-Legged Man.? But you don't have to do that anymore - we made a bypass years ago.? Or did that collapse? ? Mark Minton More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp000503
