RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
11-mm rope is heavier than a lot of people like to use these days. 9 mm is nice for expedition work, but has to be carefully rigged because of its lower abrasion resistance. I'd split the difference and go for 10 mm. It'll last plenty long and isn't as stiff or heavy as 11 mm, especially after it gets dirty. I wouldn't get less than 100 feet or you'll be quite limited where you can use it, and ropes tend to get shorter over time as they get cut for various reasons.. An advantage of 200 or 300 feet is that you can set up a pulley and practice climbing longer distances. 200 feet is probably a good compromise length. If your rope is too long you won't want to take it anywhere because it is too bulky and heavy. So, I recommend 200 feet of 10 mm. Happy climbing! Mark At 03:21 PM 5/3/2012, Stefan Creaser wrote: Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
11-mm rope is heavier than a lot of people like to use these days. 9 mm is nice for expedition work, but has to be carefully rigged because of its lower abrasion resistance. I'd split the difference and go for 10 mm. It'll last plenty long and isn't as stiff or heavy as 11 mm, especially after it gets dirty. I wouldn't get less than 100 feet or you'll be quite limited where you can use it, and ropes tend to get shorter over time as they get cut for various reasons.. An advantage of 200 or 300 feet is that you can set up a pulley and practice climbing longer distances. 200 feet is probably a good compromise length. If your rope is too long you won't want to take it anywhere because it is too bulky and heavy. So, I recommend 200 feet of 10 mm. Happy climbing! Mark At 03:21 PM 5/3/2012, Stefan Creaser wrote: Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
11-mm rope is heavier than a lot of people like to use these days. 9 mm is nice for expedition work, but has to be carefully rigged because of its lower abrasion resistance. I'd split the difference and go for 10 mm. It'll last plenty long and isn't as stiff or heavy as 11 mm, especially after it gets dirty. I wouldn't get less than 100 feet or you'll be quite limited where you can use it, and ropes tend to get shorter over time as they get cut for various reasons.. An advantage of 200 or 300 feet is that you can set up a pulley and practice climbing longer distances. 200 feet is probably a good compromise length. If your rope is too long you won't want to take it anywhere because it is too bulky and heavy. So, I recommend 200 feet of 10 mm. Happy climbing! Mark At 03:21 PM 5/3/2012, Stefan Creaser wrote: Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Yeah, that's what i'd do. 11mm is good, general purpose, rope. If you *must* use it in a cave then use it at the first pitches so you don't have to carry it far :-) Stefan From: Fofo [gonza...@msu.edu] Sent: 03 May 2012 14:05 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my > apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a > ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs > loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves > as well. > So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is > it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? > Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting > discussion. :) > Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Rope suggestions
Hi Mal! Well... for a practice rope I would prefer an 11 mm one, because they usually take a lot of abuse (by someone new "scratching" the sheath by not opening completely the cam when downclimbing, etc), and it could be a shorter one, like 50 ft, since it's going to be used indoors. Probably something around 100 ft would be good too. For caving, I prefer 9 mm, since it's lighter. 100 ft would probably be the shortest length. 200 or 300 ft would be handy also. It also depends on where you are going to use it! If you only want one, well, 100 ft of 11 mm would work for the practice and for shorter drops inside a cave. Take care, - Fofo On 03/05/12 11:54, Mallory Mayeux wrote: I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] Rope suggestions
I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory
[Texascavers] Rope suggestions
I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory
[Texascavers] Rope suggestions
I'm looking into buying my first rope. (Mostly to be used in my apartment, for our informal rope practice nights, conducted using a ladder stolen from my apartment complex, and the wall of my upstairs loft.) Anyway, I'd like to get something that will be useful for caves as well. So...suggestions, please! Is 50 foot rope too short for most pits? Or is it useful? What brand/thickness would y'all recommend? Thanks in advance for what I'm sure is going to be an interesting discussion. :) Mallory
