RE: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves

2007-08-11 Thread Cat Kennedy
David,
I've used Thorlo socks for about 10 years now. They range from about $8-14 
normally, but if you watch the sales in the Campmor catalog or on REIOUTLET.com 
you can get them cheaper. Same sort of blend as RD mentioned but they also have 
blends with Wool in them - some cavers swear by those. They are machine 
washable and really hold up. 
 
Cat 


From: RD Milhollin [mailto:rdmilhol...@charter.net]
Sent: Fri 8/10/2007 9:25 AM
To: David Locklear; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves



David, I use some socks that are 90% nylon and 10% lycra under my neoprene
caving socks. I found this Nike product at Academy for about $10 per pair,
and originally sought them out to prevent or mitigate chafing from full-foot
fins during underwater hockey games. My neoprene socks are a little worn,
and let water freely circulate in oversize boots, and I found recently that
the Nike socks worn as a liner help that problem a lot. I tried the plastic
bag routine once and found it uncomfortable to the extent that it took away
from enjoyment of the trip, although it did help keep gravel out of the
boot.

-Original Message-
From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:08 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves


I like to wear neoprene socks in my caving boots whenever
I know I am going to be in a cave with lots of water.

http://www.sailgb.com/pi/Typhoon/flatsocks_1.jpg

Neoprene socks are readily available at almost all sporting
goods stores, Academy, etc.  ( even Walmart )

On a recent trip into a cave with colder water, I found that
my neoprene socks were not keeping my feet as warm as I
would have liked.

I would like to discuss this subject.








RE: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves

2007-08-10 Thread RD Milhollin
David, I use some socks that are 90% nylon and 10% lycra under my neoprene
caving socks. I found this Nike product at Academy for about $10 per pair,
and originally sought them out to prevent or mitigate chafing from full-foot
fins during underwater hockey games. My neoprene socks are a little worn,
and let water freely circulate in oversize boots, and I found recently that
the Nike socks worn as a liner help that problem a lot. I tried the plastic
bag routine once and found it uncomfortable to the extent that it took away
from enjoyment of the trip, although it did help keep gravel out of the
boot.

-Original Message-
From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:08 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves


I like to wear neoprene socks in my caving boots whenever
I know I am going to be in a cave with lots of water.

http://www.sailgb.com/pi/Typhoon/flatsocks_1.jpg

Neoprene socks are readily available at almost all sporting
goods stores, Academy, etc.  ( even Walmart )

On a recent trip into a cave with colder water, I found that
my neoprene socks were not keeping my feet as warm as I
would have liked.

I would like to discuss this subject.





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[Texascavers] socks for 54 degree wet caves

2007-08-10 Thread David Locklear
I like to wear neoprene socks in my caving boots whenever
I know I am going to be in a cave with lots of water.

http://www.sailgb.com/pi/Typhoon/flatsocks_1.jpg

Neoprene socks are readily available at almost all sporting
goods stores, Academy, etc.  ( even Walmart )

On a recent trip into a cave with colder water, I found that
my neoprene socks were not keeping my feet as warm as I
would have liked.

I would like to discuss this subject.



I believe my socks were the ones shown below:

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/assets/prod_img/2342f.jpg



Here is a possible solution to the problem:

A knee-high neoprene sock:

http://chotooutdoorgear.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_30&products_id=19

http://chotooutdoorgear.net/shop/images/NS200.jpg

At $ 50 a pair plus shipping, I think I will just let my feet get cold.


What about wearing nylon dress socks or even hosiery under the neoprene
socks, or even a plastic bag?  [ my socks fit very tight around the ankle
so I can't wear anything underneath them ]

Or a polyolefin sock under or over?

http://www.123scuba.com/p-BT00EUU.html

There is even lycra socks:

http://www.leisurepro.com/prod/FNSS.html


What about Merino wool over the neoprene socks?

Neoprene socks are commonly found in 3mm thickness; however
you can also find them in 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 mm, & 5 mm.

http://www.divers-supply.com/photos/ATL50149-2.jpg

[ the 7 mm usually have some kind of rubber sole and are called booties ]

There is also a dry sock and a goretex sock, but I would think it
would fill with water once you stepped in a deep pool.

There is also a thinsulate sock, ( at $ 80.00 ), but I don't think that
would work.  [ maybe in some alpine or glacier cave ?? ]

http://shop.divebooty.com/prodimages/lg/4869.jpg

I know that some cavers have worn the Seal Skinz socks for many
years.I bought a pair from one of the caving vendors a couple of
years ago. I could have worn them over my neoprene socks, but
I had left them at home.

I am pretty sure the main problem I had was my caving boots, but
since I was traveling by plane I left my rubber caving boots at home
and just took my cordura hiking boots.

Here is another example of the neoprene sock:

http://www.amazingsocks.com/web-pid-6901-item.htm

You can have neoprene socks custom made and even with 7 mm
neoprene. Companies like "Liquid Fit" can do that.


Am I leaving out anything? Any other suggestions?

David Locklear

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