Re: [Texascavers] ICS related

2009-07-31 Thread Herman Miller
6

I think Vermont will be a nice vacation though I really don't see myself
doing much caving there.  The Czech Republic would be nice to get back to,
I've only gone there for air shows though unfortunately I'd prefer to spend
5K on more caving / diving gear.

10

My good friend Steve Deveny proofed the survey course to i wanna say 2cm and
is a professional surveyor.  I don't really have any input there just wanted
to throw kudos where I could.

12

I know there were separate individual talks concerning the "big" caves of
the world throughout the week though I would have much preferred one "big"
session just covering the exploration of these select few caves.

Secondly I like to state that the exploration talks should be held later in
the day so that those whom are still young and in there prime ie explore are
up in time to hear the talks.  Though it might just be me in not being able
to handle campground activities and being able to turn right around and
function so early in the morning ;).

Herman Miller
NSS 55273

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:27 PM, David  wrote:

> I would be interested in reading post about events that occurred at ICS
> that I missed.
>
> For example,
>
> 1.The opening ceremony party.
> 2.The NSS auction
> 3.The turnout at the consignment sales.
> 4.Caving trips at TCC, CWAN, Golondrinas, Wind Cave, etc.
> 5.Any opinions on how to improve or help the next convention
>   organizers.
> 6.Who all is excited and counting the days until Vermont?,
>   Colorado ??,   The Czech Republic  ??
> 9.SpeleoOlympics
> 10.   Survey contest.
> 11.   Tourist trip stories.
> 12.Exploration talks
> 13.etc.
>
> David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] ICS related

2009-08-01 Thread vivbone

 Steve'smargin of error was actually .02 inches. Way less than 2 cm.  He 
brought his own equipment from Nevada, and spenta lot of time on it. It is 
greatly appreciated.  I'll be doing awrite up on the results. It's not often we 
get a chance to compare severalsurvey team's (seven to be exact) data to a well 
defined "correct" survey like this. 
-Vivian 
 
10

My good friend Steve Deveny proofed the survey course to i wanna say 2cm and is 
a professional surveyor.  I don't really have any input there just wanted to 
throw kudos where I could.



RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Denise P

I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than money 
(I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3 of my annual 
vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact...

 

-Denise
 


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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:54:49 -0500
From: wavyca...@gmail.com
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS Related

I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of 
their jobs with no vacation compensation
(they forsake income) to attend ICS?  
Unemployment does not count.

-WaV

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Charles Goldsmith
The same for me Denise, but I took off 7 days out of my 10 that I get
a year (2 weeks = 10 working days) of vacation, so it was a big
sacrifice for me as well.  It was a paid vacation, but I get so little
of it...

Very painful

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Denise P wrote:
> I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than
> money (I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3 of my
> annual vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact...
>
> -Denise
>
> 
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:54:49 -0500
> From: wavyca...@gmail.com
> To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] ICS Related
>
> I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of
> their jobs with no vacation compensation
> (they forsake income) to attend ICS?
> Unemployment does not count.
>
> -WaV
>


RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-01 Thread Linda Palit
Vacation is more precious than money 

TRUE for many, I think.

 

It is hard to get enough vacation, even if you are willing to do w/o pay.

I am very fortunate to finally be self employed so that I make more of those
decisions.

Many places will not let one take time off without pay.

 

From: Denise P [mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:37 AM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

 

I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than
money (I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3 of my
annual vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact...
 
-Denise
 

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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:54:49 -0500
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To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS Related

I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off of
their jobs with no vacation compensation
(they forsake income) to attend ICS?  
Unemployment does not count.

-WaV

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Re: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-02 Thread Don Cooper
Charles - do you have an option to take "leave" (unpaid time off) rather
than "vacation"?
If not - would you have made that choice instead?

-DC

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> The same for me Denise, but I took off 7 days out of my 10 that I get
> a year (2 weeks = 10 working days) of vacation, so it was a big
> sacrifice for me as well.  It was a paid vacation, but I get so little
> of it...
>
> Very painful
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Denise P wrote:
> > I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than
> > money (I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3 of
> my
> > annual vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact...
> >
> > -Denise
> >
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:54:49 -0500
> > From: wavyca...@gmail.com
> > To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> > Subject: [Texascavers] ICS Related
> >
> > I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time off
> of
> > their jobs with no vacation compensation
> > (they forsake income) to attend ICS?
> > Unemployment does not count.
> >
> > -WaV
> >
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RE: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-02 Thread Nancy Weaver

Vacation is more precious than money

Many places will not let one take time off without pay.

Maybe the question is - whose life is this anyway and what am I 
willing to trade for it?


Nnacy

Re: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-02 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Yes I do, and I did consider it, but I decided not to, I didn't want
to dig into my savings for this trip, I spent enough as it was, dang
vendors :)

Charles

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Don Cooper wrote:
> Charles - do you have an option to take "leave" (unpaid time off) rather
> than "vacation"?
> If not - would you have made that choice instead?
>
> -DC
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Charles Goldsmith 
> wrote:
>>
>> The same for me Denise, but I took off 7 days out of my 10 that I get
>> a year (2 weeks = 10 working days) of vacation, so it was a big
>> sacrifice for me as well.  It was a paid vacation, but I get so little
>> of it...
>>
>> Very painful
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Denise P wrote:
>> > I did not forsake pay, but as vacation time is more precious to me than
>> > money (I'd take time off without pay if I could), I'd say donating 1/3
>> > of my
>> > annual vacation time to ICS was no small deal to me. Painful in fact...
>> >
>> > -Denise
>> >
>> > 
>> > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 03:54:49 -0500
>> > From: wavyca...@gmail.com
>> > To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
>> > Subject: [Texascavers] ICS Related
>> >
>> > I would be interested in knowing how many volunteers at ICS took time
>> > off of
>> > their jobs with no vacation compensation
>> > (they forsake income) to attend ICS?
>> > Unemployment does not count.
>> >
>> > -WaV
>> >
>
>


Re: [Texascavers] ICS Related

2009-08-02 Thread Don Arburn

Live to work
Or
Work to live.


Don's iPhone.

On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Nancy Weaver  wrote:


Vacation is more precious than money

Many places will not let one take time off without pay.

Maybe the question is - whose life is this anyway and what am I  
willing to trade for it?


Nnacy


RE: [Texascavers] ICS related

2009-08-05 Thread Butch Fralia
I'd be happy to work (as time permits) on a set of text and photo pages for
the TSA website if folks who were there would provide the photos and text.

Butch Fralia
TSA Webmaster


-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:49 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS related

So far, the most informative review I have seen of ICS comes from flipping
thru Frank Binney's Facebook photos.

 http://www.facebook.com/frank.binney?hiq=frank,binney&ref=search

Frank apparently had a lot of fun re-visiting old caving friends.



I think someone needs to put out a web-page with a thorough recap
of ICS with a selection of Frank's photos, and Scott Fee's

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/caverscott/sets/72157621652240404/

And the best of everybody else's photos too, like Ernie Garza's etc.

This would be a good project for a dozen people that wanted to volunteer for
ICS, but couldn't.

It would be too costly to publish something, as it would be
over 100 pages, if not 200.


David Locklear

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