Re: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions

2008-02-08 Thread Aimee Beveridge
Pete and I will lead a pre-conference ICS trip to Nuevo Leon that will include 
caving at Palmito, Consuelo, a large cave I won't name now, as well as Grutas 
de Garcia and Huasteca Canyon. We will be looking for drivers with high 
clearance trucks that can take 4 riders each.  We will stay at the lovely 
Bugganvilla Camp Ground in the town of Bustamante.  The trip leaves from San 
Antonio on the 14th and returns to Kerrville on the 18th.  
   
  We have a limited number of slots for attendees, about 25.  If you are a 
Texas & vicinity caver, we encourage your assistance, but please don't sign up 
for this trip as an attendee.  We'd like to offer this trip to folks who would 
otherwise not get to see this amazing part of the world.
   
  Drop us a line if you would like to help with this trip. 
   
  Aimee aim...@yahoo.com 
  Pete pstrickla...@austin.rr.com

Allan Cobb  wrote:
  Nico,
   
  Pete Strickland and Aimee Beveridge are planning a trip to the Bustamante 
area.  I don't recall right off if they are planning a pre or post ICS trip.  I 
have copied both of them on this email as they are who you should talk to.
   
  Thanks,
  Allan

   
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Re: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions

2008-02-05 Thread Nico Escamilla
Dont know who I should be writing this to.. I can lead trips and arrange
access to any of the following:
Palmito
Minas Viejas (the road aint as bad is it was years ago)
Chiquihuitillos

Nico

On Feb 5, 2008 4:24 PM, George Veni  wrote:

> Trips for the ICS are well into the planning stages. As I type, the trip
> descriptions are being reviewed and translated for posting on the website
> and printing in the 2nd Circular, which will be out in June. Keep checking
> the website over the next couple of months and you'll see details get
> posted
> periodically on a great variety of caving, family, and technical trips.
>
> George
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:03 PM
> To: Texas Cavers
> Subject: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions
>
> There are 2 border towns in Mexico close to the International Congress
> of Speleology.
>
> Piedras Negras
>
>   ( 164 miles away - ~ 3 hours 15 minutes )
>
>   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedras_Negras%2C_Coahuila
>
>   http://www.traveltex.com/images/database_images/big/2003/pg15089.jpg
>
>   Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acun~a.
>
>   [ I passed thru this town once, but have never stopped there. ]
>
>
> Ciudad Acuña
>
>  ( 152 miles away - ~ 2 hours 45 minutes )
>
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a
>
>
>
> http://www.jstottphotography.com/2003/2003-09-03_-_usa/texas,_mexico_and_new
> _orleans/slides_l/dscn2085.jpg
>
>  There are lots of good cantinas and a few good restaurants.
>
>  "Hunter's Ranch" is rumored to be a whole lot of fun.
>   ( easy to find - on top of the hill where the cities antennas
> are.   on Hwy 2 )
>
>  You can get maps on-line of these cities on MapQuest.
>
> [ My grandparents took me to Acuña at the age of 5 in 1969.The
>   A.S.S. used to go there for dinner ( Crosby's - I think )after
> several trips to
>   Langtry  around 1985.   I have only been back a few times since
> then.
> ]
>
> The movies Desparado and El Mariachi with Antonio Banderas had bar
> scenes filmed in the "Corona Club" in Acuña.
>
>
> I don't know what the closest Mexican cave is to the Congress.
>
> In my opinion, "iIlusive Pit" is just too difficult to get to for a quick
> trip
> across the border.  Grutas de Carrizal has so much guano and
> bats in it that some people may not think it is worth a quick trip from
> Kerrville just to see that cave.  The hike to Precipicio in July is
> not a good idea. And the trip up to Minas Viajes is kind of hard
> on a passenger van.  And going all the way to Monterrey to see
> a commercial cave, may be too much driving.   Are some cavers
> planning on going to Palmito "during" the Congress? Since I can
> theoreticaly go to Palmito just about any weekend, I am not going
> to do that during the Congress.
>
>
> Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting:
>
> 1.San Rafael de los Milagros
> 2.El Pelillal
> 3.Narihua
>
>
>
> In summary,  if you are interested in trips to Mexico, there is
> a ton of information on the web and many old-timers have a lot
> of stories to tell about trips there.  So don't be afraid to ask some
> one before venturing off down there.  And there are some Cavetex
> readers from Mexico who can probably answer any questions you
> might have.
>
>
>
>
> David Locklear
>
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RE: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions

2008-02-05 Thread George Veni
Trips for the ICS are well into the planning stages. As I type, the trip
descriptions are being reviewed and translated for posting on the website
and printing in the 2nd Circular, which will be out in June. Keep checking
the website over the next couple of months and you'll see details get posted
periodically on a great variety of caving, family, and technical trips.

George



-Original Message-
From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:03 PM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] ICS border trip suggestions

There are 2 border towns in Mexico close to the International Congress
of Speleology.

Piedras Negras

   ( 164 miles away - ~ 3 hours 15 minutes )

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedras_Negras%2C_Coahuila

   http://www.traveltex.com/images/database_images/big/2003/pg15089.jpg

   Probably easier border crossing than Ciudad Acun~a.

   [ I passed thru this town once, but have never stopped there. ]


Ciudad Acuña

  ( 152 miles away - ~ 2 hours 45 minutes )

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a

 
http://www.jstottphotography.com/2003/2003-09-03_-_usa/texas,_mexico_and_new
_orleans/slides_l/dscn2085.jpg

  There are lots of good cantinas and a few good restaurants.

  "Hunter's Ranch" is rumored to be a whole lot of fun.
   ( easy to find - on top of the hill where the cities antennas
are.   on Hwy 2 )

  You can get maps on-line of these cities on MapQuest.

 [ My grandparents took me to Acuña at the age of 5 in 1969.The
   A.S.S. used to go there for dinner ( Crosby's - I think )after
several trips to
   Langtry  around 1985.   I have only been back a few times since then.
]

The movies Desparado and El Mariachi with Antonio Banderas had bar
scenes filmed in the "Corona Club" in Acuña.


I don't know what the closest Mexican cave is to the Congress.

In my opinion, "iIlusive Pit" is just too difficult to get to for a quick
trip
across the border.  Grutas de Carrizal has so much guano and
bats in it that some people may not think it is worth a quick trip from
Kerrville just to see that cave.  The hike to Precipicio in July is
not a good idea. And the trip up to Minas Viajes is kind of hard
on a passenger van.  And going all the way to Monterrey to see
a commercial cave, may be too much driving.   Are some cavers
planning on going to Palmito "during" the Congress? Since I can
theoreticaly go to Palmito just about any weekend, I am not going
to do that during the Congress.


Here is a list of rock-art sites that may be worth visiting:

 1.San Rafael de los Milagros
 2.El Pelillal
 3.Narihua



In summary,  if you are interested in trips to Mexico, there is
a ton of information on the web and many old-timers have a lot
of stories to tell about trips there.  So don't be afraid to ask some
one before venturing off down there.  And there are some Cavetex
readers from Mexico who can probably answer any questions you
might have.




David Locklear

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