RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Bob West
I remember being very sensitive to poison ivy in my early teens growing up in 
northern Brown county.  All it had to be was springtime and I would get itchy 
welts on my ankles and wrists.  My parents found some poison ivy extract that 
came in a dropper bottle.  I would take 1 drop a day for a week or 10 days; 
then 2 drops a day for that long and do that all the way to 10 drops a day.  I 
would start the drop therapy in the winter so by springtime I was up the the 10 
drop max and my sensitivity was then greatly diminished.

My mother would get poison ivy reaction regularly and not even be around it.  
She stopped getting it when she stopped handling my fathers dirty jeans putting 
them in the washing machine. 

Bob West

Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:42:57 -0500
From: gi...@att.net
To: dirt...@comcast.net
CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

I forgot to mention an apocryphal story regarding my East Texas cousins who 
were Piney Woods squirrel hunters in their youth and often came home with 
poison ivy lesions. My aunt used an old procedure that involved my cousins 
taking a certain number (which I don't remember) of ripe poison ivy seeds by 
mouth for several (again, I don't remember how many) days. They were, 
reportedly, cured of their sensitivity to poison ivy--or, at least, it was 
greatly diminished. 
--Ediger 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM,  dirt...@comcast.net wrote:


Poison-ivy and Karst


How cave related can you get??  (I'll do everything I can to get this site back 
on track)

I grew up in New York and was terribly allergic to poison ivy as a youngster.  
Like, someone burned some  brush with the vines in the pile, a half-mile away.  
Good Lord, was I ever in an awful itchy situation after the smoke passed over 
me --.  Fortunately my lungs did not react.


When I started to do karst and geological things in upstate NY, I discovered 
two things:

1. To see the bedrock I had to crawl on my belly like a snake up stream beds.

2. I could map the limestone without ever seeing it, just by mapping where the 
lush poison ivy grew. (THAT is the Karst tie-in)


After I came West, I could more easily see Rocks and I gradually lost my 
extreme reaction.  But I learned what George cautioned:  Immunity is lost by 
repeated exposure.

Then I moved to Texas and discovered Poison Oak.  It makes TREES going up the 
cliffs with trunks as big around as Bob Oakley's thighs around springs in the 
Big Bend.  ESPECIALLY in what is now Big Bend Ranch State Park.







  

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Louise Power
take a look at these pics:

 

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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:05:55 -0500
From: gi...@att.net
To: dirt...@comcast.net
CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst


I've never had anybody successfully identify the difference between poison ivy 
and poison oak for me. They look the same to my eyes.  
--Ediger



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote:





Poison-ivy and Karst

How cave related can you get??  (I'll do everything I can to get this site back 
on track)

I grew up in New York and was terribly allergic to poison ivy as a youngster.  
Like, someone burned some  brush with the vines in the pile, a half-mile away.  
Good Lord, was I ever in an awful itchy situation after the smoke passed over 
me --.  Fortunately my lungs did not react.

When I started to do karst and geological things in upstate NY, I discovered 
two things:

1. To see the bedrock I had to crawl on my belly like a snake up stream beds.

2. I could map the limestone without ever seeing it, just by mapping where the 
lush poison ivy grew. (THAT is the Karst tie-in)

After I came West, I could more easily see Rocks and I gradually lost my 
extreme reaction.  But I learned what George cautioned:  Immunity is lost by 
repeated exposure.

Then I moved to Texas and discovered Poison Oak.  It makes TREES going up the 
cliffs with trunks as big around as Bob Oakley's thighs around springs in the 
Big Bend.  ESPECIALLY in what is now Big Bend Ranch State Park.