Re: [Texascavers] Re: Trouble at PEMEX

2009-11-20 Thread Thomas Sitch
I got taken on the bill swap between Merida and Cancun, and I knew better, I 
just wasn't paying attention.

Now I always say the name of the bill and point my thumb at the numbers: Aqui 
tiene *doscientos* etc.

Also, they'll fill you up with premium when you want regular, so watch that one 
too.

~~T





From: Sheryl Rieck shri...@cableone.net
To: Texas Cavers texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 1:59:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: Trouble at PEMEX


This is all very good information since we are going to Mexico on Saturday and 
I haven’t been in quite some time.  
 
Sheryl

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Trouble at PEMEX

2009-11-19 Thread Nico Escamilla
Almost every single PEMEX station will steal from you, some more than others
because the profit margin per liter is really small so the pumps actually
pump slightly less than what its shown on the display, again some do it more
so than others. Only one time have I been to a shameless stealer station.. I
have a 51 liter fuel tank in my car I asked them to fill it up and they did
zero the pump and all, when I turned again to look at the pump cause it was
taking longer than usual it was already at 60 liters.. and I still had only
slightly less than 1/4 of a tank when I stopped to fill up, I asked to speak
with the manager and they refused so I did the next logical thing and called
PROFECO (consumer protection comission) two days later that station was on
the news, PROFECO had closed them for tweaking their pumps to pump way less
than what the screen showed.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.netwrote:

  Mark's points and advice are well stated.  It's easy to be distracted,
 especially at the busier places where the activity can be frantic and the
 noise can be deafening.  Now add to that the little urchins selling Chiclets
 and wiping your windshield with an oily rag.  I was scammed at a PEMEX in
 Chihuahua, Chihuahua when I failed to certify that the pump was zeroed
 before unlocking my gas cap to allow them to begin fueling.  When the total
 was announced, I complained and pointed out that they had delivered about
 double my maximum capacity but it fell on deaf ears.  It's a great scam and
 when it happens, you've been had.

 As for paying the bill, you are certainly vulnerable when you hand over a
 large bill -- especially when the attendant heads for the office to make
 change.  I think it's better to have close to the exact change available.
 Plan ahead.

 ===Carl Kunath

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 - Original Message -
  *From:* Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net
 *To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:04 AM
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Re: Have you been short changed at a Pemex?

  Preston said:

  I have been ripped off a time or two at Pemex.

  A common way they used to get people at Pemex was to not
 zero the pump when they start filling your tank.  That way you end up
 paying for what was already dispensed to the guy before you as well
 as your own fuel.  That is less a problem now because modern pumps
 automatically zero out when they are activated for a new sale, but I
 still always check.  Another scam when you pay is to claim you gave
 them a smaller bill than you did and thus give you less change, for
 instance giving you change for a 200 when you gave them a 500.  Once
 the bill you gave them disappears into their pocket it is difficult
 to prove what you gave them.  I usually point out the denomination
 when I hand it to the clerk and seek acknowledgment.  I often use big
 bills at Pemex because it is one of the places that can always make
 change, unlike tiendas in small towns.  Of course you always want to
 count your change, because they will sometimes give you less than
 you're owed hoping you won't bother to count it.  That happens at
 toll booths too, where people are in a hurry and roar off before
 counting their change.

  It is interesting that the guy from the RV forum mentioned
 paying for gas with a credit or debit card.  He was on Highway 15 in
 western Mexico and they may take those cards there, but I almost
 never see gas stations in central or eastern Mexico that do.  I wish
 they did, because that would decrease the amount of cash we need to carry.

 Mark Minton

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 I have been ripped off a time or two at Pemex.

   In my 9 years of coming to Mexico for the winter,I've always been
  careful to watch what the attendant does,but today he got me just
  when I was distracted for a second.

   it was for
 at least $26.00 more than it should be.I deal with liters at home so
 I know almost exactly what it takes,and knew this was wrong, but he
 didn't back down.He was charging me for 83 liters and the truck only
 holds 100 and it was just below half when I came in.
 
 Hope this helps someone. This type of problem in Mexico is not as
 common as it once was, but it still pays to be alert at the gas station.
 
 Preston in Outer Browder, KY






RE: [Texascavers] Re: Trouble at PEMEX

2009-11-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
This is all very good information since we are going to Mexico on Saturday
and I haven't been in quite some time.  

 

Sheryl